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Netflix has delayed start of Meghans show

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Viviennemary · 12/01/2025 22:34

Just seen on Sky News. Breaking News headlines. Delayed because of the wild fires didn't say if this was technical difficulties or it would be a bit crass to launch a frothy type lifestyle show with all the devastation. Anyway it might be shelved for good with any luck.

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wigsonthegreenandhatsforthelifting · 16/01/2025 23:13

FromTheOfficeOfJammyTodger · 16/01/2025 22:46

@CurlewKate 's question is "....if Meghan was the centre of the very complicated cancer narrative the Wales' are projecting". I don't think anyone can adequately answer this question until @CurlewKate explains what she means by this.

For the record, if MM announced she had cancer, I would be sympathetic, wish her well and wish her a speedy recovery. As any decent person would. I wouldn't find the history of her behaviour any less heinous for the subsequent cancer diagnosis. Cancer doesn't bestow sainthood. It does, however, cause pain, stress and suffering that nobody decent would wish on anyone, even someone they dislike.

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Exactly this. I have one SIL. She has quite frankly been a complete cunt to me and my children. DH (her brother) seems oblivious. He meets her sometimes - none of the rest of us have seen her in 3/4 years. She got married and invited DH but not me or our children. Our children are the only blood DNs she has. We were relegated to the evening do. DH couldn't see what was wrong with that. I'd probably been in her life for 25 or so years at that point. She demanded to be my bridesmaid when DH and I got married. I would have asked her anyway but she never gave me the chance. She brought one of her seemingly never-ending series of random boyfriends to the wedding, who was totally inappropriately dressed and insisted he should be in the photos. They split up not long after and we had to leave the photos that we had paid for out of our wedding album, most of which were family photos.

A few years back, she invited DH and kids to her house nearly 2 hours away. When they got there, she told them that she had a hairdresser appointment in an hour.

She has had a Stage 4 cancer diagnosis for about 12 years - she has been very fortunate to survive this long. I don't like her for obvious reasons (and I could write a book as to why!) but I still can feel empathy for her situation.

GreenTeaLikesMe · 17/01/2025 00:00

Princessfluffy · 16/01/2025 08:02

Nott Cottage, the place disparaged by Meghan, was designed by Christopher Wren and is 1,300 square feet, double the UK average house size, and a big place for Harry alone as a bachelor and for M&H as a couple surely? WITHIN A PALACE!!!

And good enough for William & Catherine who of course are senior in rank to H&M.

Maybe part of the issue is that US houses are so much bigger; the average US house is probably similar to Nott Cott in size. Perhaps Meghan envisaged a mini-palace and felt let down, hmmm.

LaMarschallin · 17/01/2025 00:03

Perhaps Meghan envisaged a mini-palace and felt let down, hmmm.

But...but she got the man of her dreams.
As long as he's "kind" - what more could she want?

Wanttoadoptadog · 17/01/2025 00:15

CurlewKate · 16/01/2025 21:56

Incidentally, I do wonder how people would react if Meghan was the centre of the very complicated cancer narrative the Wales' are projecting.

What a thinly veiled spiteful comment, shame that the initial remorse you felt when you expressed your regret after joining in the where is Kate threads after she revealed her cancer diagnosis seems to be a a dim and distant memory, maybe you could explain to us what very complicated narrative Catherine is projecting about her cancer? Do explain.

BasiliskStare · 17/01/2025 00:45

@CurlewKate "Incidentally, I do wonder how people would react if Meghan was the centre of the very complicated cancer narrative the Wales' are projecting. "

Well colour me naive but I am not sure the cancer narrative is complicated in the case of the Wales - treading a fine line I think they have been pretty open , given that the Kate has no real standing in the sense that Charles William and George and children have. Sp not sure I entirely understand you "complicated narrative.

If Meghan and Harry released that M was suffering from cancer I hope people would be empathetic. I have to say I think she can be "a piece of work" with "more front than Blackpool" as my Granny would have said but I wouldn't wish that on anyone and I would feel for them. Doesn't make them great people , but I would wish them all the best in those circumstances.

CatsWhiskerz · 17/01/2025 04:04

LaMarschallin · 17/01/2025 00:03

Perhaps Meghan envisaged a mini-palace and felt let down, hmmm.

But...but she got the man of her dreams.
As long as he's "kind" - what more could she want?

He's only the man of her dreams because she can use him ... that's not love, but I doubt she has that gene in her body

JuliaLivilla · 17/01/2025 04:06

StartupRepair · 16/01/2025 22:19

Back to Harry's interior design description. I can't get past 'bookshelves filled with volumes of peaceful colours'. Does he think people choose books based on the colour of the cover? And William has special peaceful colours that were meanly withheld from him?
Seems safe to say Harry has never opened a book.

No, I read somewhere that he saw himself as Lennie from John Steinbeck's "Of Mice and Men" for some reason. So presumably he has read that (at school).

Although thinking about it, the reason he saw himself as Lennie didn't make a lot of sense to me and really didn't seem to have much to do with the actual content of the book. I just put it down to the fact that my John Steinbeck phase was decades ago and I'd forgotten bits of it. But now I'm starting to wonder.

There have been a couple of films...

Thedom · 17/01/2025 08:38

This is quite the insightful post which someone shared from Reddit.

"I posted when she launched ARO that going back to influencer makes sense for her and I think she could still succeed at it, but she’s doing it this late because it’s plan B.

The plan when they left was to out-royal the RF and be global humanitarian philanthropist powerbrokers. We know this from the Sussexit website, Spare, Finding Freedom, the Time lists, Harry’s security lawsuit, the awards they’ve accepted, the Global Citizen thing, Meghan’s official speaker bio, the tours, Archewell impact reports, Oprah, and literally hundreds of briefings both on and off the record.

That was Meghan’s goal. That was the aim. That was what she thought she could use the RF to leapfrog into and then maintain based simply on her own goodness and rightness.

This isn’t what Meghan always wanted, this is Meghan’s fallback. The snark is in the gap"

Viviennemary · 17/01/2025 09:02

Thedom · 17/01/2025 08:38

This is quite the insightful post which someone shared from Reddit.

"I posted when she launched ARO that going back to influencer makes sense for her and I think she could still succeed at it, but she’s doing it this late because it’s plan B.

The plan when they left was to out-royal the RF and be global humanitarian philanthropist powerbrokers. We know this from the Sussexit website, Spare, Finding Freedom, the Time lists, Harry’s security lawsuit, the awards they’ve accepted, the Global Citizen thing, Meghan’s official speaker bio, the tours, Archewell impact reports, Oprah, and literally hundreds of briefings both on and off the record.

That was Meghan’s goal. That was the aim. That was what she thought she could use the RF to leapfrog into and then maintain based simply on her own goodness and rightness.

This isn’t what Meghan always wanted, this is Meghan’s fallback. The snark is in the gap"

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That does sound possible. It's hardly something really successful or mega rich folk do. They don't need to. It'll be politics next or maybe even she realises that is unlikely to work.

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FromTheOfficeOfJammyTodger · 17/01/2025 09:33

GreenTeaLikesMe · 17/01/2025 00:00

Maybe part of the issue is that US houses are so much bigger; the average US house is probably similar to Nott Cott in size. Perhaps Meghan envisaged a mini-palace and felt let down, hmmm.

But she had been living in Toronto for years, where young people live in shoe boxes because rents are eye-wateringly expensive; she was lucky enough to move in with Corey Vittielo and never had a place of her own. In LA, I can't imagine she had anything more than a modest apartment, given her modest achievements in the industry, and her own professed childhood of cheap salads. So it's not as if she was coming from a place of palatial living. To be then living in a gifted, historic house in a secluded and protected area of one of the most expensive boroughs in the world should have felt like palatial living, frankly, to anyone from her sort of ordinary background who was just looking for a "nice man" and not a nice bank balance.

Ohpleeeease · 17/01/2025 09:48

The plan when they left was to out-royal the RF and be global humanitarian philanthropist powerbrokers. We know this from the Sussexit website, Spare, Finding Freedom, the Time lists, Harry’s security lawsuit, the awards they’ve accepted, the Global Citizen thing, Meghan’s official speaker bio, the tours, Archewell impact reports, Oprah, and literally hundreds of briefings both on and off the record.

Possibly unfair to say this was Meghan’s goal rather than both, but I completely agree with the general premise. Harry was bursting with excitement at how he perceived her performance in the role. For years afterwards he talked about “this job” as though he had one. They started setting up their own court and they’ve never stopped trying to live as though they had an official function.

They are the D&D of Windsor all over again.

MrsFinkelstein · 17/01/2025 10:25

I see we're still waiting for the explanation of the "complicated cancer narrative the Wales have been promoting".

I'm on tenterhooks here. And will continue to be so until it's explained to me.

WeCantGoOverIt · 17/01/2025 10:49

They wrecked their chance to “out-royal the RF and be global humanitarian philanthropist powerbrokers” with their Oprah interview and it went downhill from there. They failed to understand the upmost importance of discretion when working with the ultra elite wealthy and powerbrokers.

MummyJ12 · 17/01/2025 10:52

MrsFinkelstein · 17/01/2025 10:25

I see we're still waiting for the explanation of the "complicated cancer narrative the Wales have been promoting".

I'm on tenterhooks here. And will continue to be so until it's explained to me.

Same here.
It’s squaddie rhetoric. Like the baby bank accusations on another thread the other day. Very illuminating, that this rubbish is what the squad are posting across SM.

EdithWeston · 17/01/2025 10:58

I think that "complicated" is an attempt to suggest that the PoWess was somehow unreasonable in her messaging.

This is because they took a simple, consistent and effective set of messages, and stuck to them, regardless of the KateGate malice, which they grey rocked completely.

Some people said her PR was dreadful - if she just did this or that then it would all go away. But there was no response to that, those detractors now look abit silly.

They had a simple story, and stuck to it

LaMarschallin · 17/01/2025 11:19

JuliaLivilla · 17/01/2025 04:06

No, I read somewhere that he saw himself as Lennie from John Steinbeck's "Of Mice and Men" for some reason. So presumably he has read that (at school).

Although thinking about it, the reason he saw himself as Lennie didn't make a lot of sense to me and really didn't seem to have much to do with the actual content of the book. I just put it down to the fact that my John Steinbeck phase was decades ago and I'd forgotten bits of it. But now I'm starting to wonder.

There have been a couple of films...

I read OMAM a long time ago so my memory of it may be flawed and I'm happy to be corrected.
My memory of Lennie is of a very large, simple man-child who needed protection and didn't understand his own strength. The character George protected him until Lennie accidentally kills a woman (he's killed animals by accident in the past by petting them too vigorously) so George shoots him as an act of kindness.

I can't disagree that I think Harry is still quite childish but seeing himself as Lennie suggests he thinks he has learning difficulties or hasn't actually read the book.
I'd guess the latter.

GreenTeaLikesMe · 17/01/2025 11:26

FromTheOfficeOfJammyTodger · 17/01/2025 09:33

But she had been living in Toronto for years, where young people live in shoe boxes because rents are eye-wateringly expensive; she was lucky enough to move in with Corey Vittielo and never had a place of her own. In LA, I can't imagine she had anything more than a modest apartment, given her modest achievements in the industry, and her own professed childhood of cheap salads. So it's not as if she was coming from a place of palatial living. To be then living in a gifted, historic house in a secluded and protected area of one of the most expensive boroughs in the world should have felt like palatial living, frankly, to anyone from her sort of ordinary background who was just looking for a "nice man" and not a nice bank balance.

Oh sure.... but what I mean is that the rich in the US typically live in very large and glamorous houses. So her expectation, given that she was marrying into the royal family, was probably that she was going to live in a palace. Nott Cott probably felt like a letdown as a result!

Atlasvue · 17/01/2025 11:57

Interesting her routes to achieve what she wants.

  1. She married a Hollywood producer when she wanted to cement her route to become a successful actress.

  2. She achieved success as an actress but reached her limits, she then wanted to be a lifestyle cooking guru. So she got with celebrity chef Corey.
    She managed to get some cooking segments on tv and pushed that she was a foodie on the Tig, sharing receipts etc. I can’t remember who it was, but a friend had stated that back then, she was actively looking for a cooking tv show of her own. But it never happened for her and she was written out of Suits. Tig would have made her money, but not enough. She was fast approaching 40.

  3. So she needed to make her next step, which was Harry. Now she would become a Global leader, activist princess. She tried to convince the UK and the Royals, that her and Harry were going to be these rockstar royals. But that’s not what we want in a Royal. They appeared spoiled, ungrateful, tone deaf. So she ran away to the circus (Hollywood) to become a global leader /producer. I’m thinking a career along the lines of Michelle Obamas (which is an interesting one- lots of split rumours there too). That didn’t work out. The NF deal will end soon.

So we’re back to the lifestyle influencer stuff, which just isn’t possible. At all. There’s too many people that are waiting for her to be humbled and apologise for her and Harry’s past behaviours. That won’t happen, so people aren’t rooting for her success. It’s like Al Capone, he got done for taxes. Not the crime spree he and his gang inflicted on Chicago. She was never cancelled for the manipulations and stories that were patently untrue that she painted of the UK and the RF. But we know, that one day, given enough rope, Harry and Meghan will cancel themselves. Probably over something small, but it will happen. So we sit and wait, and create threads on MN while eating popcorn.

What happens then?

4)Well Meghan is a survivor, she will move on to the next husband and plan her next career move. Just like she’s done the last two decades.

Mylovelygreendress · 17/01/2025 12:19

The problem with 4 is that Meghan is now a middle aged mother of 2 who is not known for discretion and truth.
As far as the living arrangements are concerned , it is known that Harry and Meghan wanted to live in Windsor Castle but the late Queen said no .

LaMarschallin · 17/01/2025 12:30

MrsFinkelstein · 17/01/2025 10:25

I see we're still waiting for the explanation of the "complicated cancer narrative the Wales have been promoting".

I'm on tenterhooks here. And will continue to be so until it's explained to me.

We do seem to be still waiting.
I think it was @CurlewKate who used the phrase but perhaps she's not been on MN today, do you think?

IcedPurple · 17/01/2025 12:41

WeCantGoOverIt · 17/01/2025 10:49

They wrecked their chance to “out-royal the RF and be global humanitarian philanthropist powerbrokers” with their Oprah interview and it went downhill from there. They failed to understand the upmost importance of discretion when working with the ultra elite wealthy and powerbrokers.

I think the 'global philanthropist' thing was probably doomed anyway.

What would qualify them for such a role? They are no longer working royals so don't represent anyone other than themselves, and don't have the whole apparatus of the monarchy, which they so sneered at, smoothing their path.

Also, they are nowhere near rich enough to be philanthropists on the level of Bill Gates or even George Clooney. The most they could do would be celebrities with a 'social justice' sideline. But they seemed to want to be American royals, which isn't actually possibly. They still want that, as seen from the 'Office of the Duke and Duchess' and the faux royal 'tours'.

So I agree that being an influencer is not what Meghan had planned 5 years ago. This is a major step backwards for her, especially as the whole 'influencer' thing is well past its peak and she hasn't put in the time and effort to build up a relevant profile. Too busy being the Duchess of Monticito.

itsstillmehere · 17/01/2025 12:51

EdithWeston · 17/01/2025 10:58

I think that "complicated" is an attempt to suggest that the PoWess was somehow unreasonable in her messaging.

This is because they took a simple, consistent and effective set of messages, and stuck to them, regardless of the KateGate malice, which they grey rocked completely.

Some people said her PR was dreadful - if she just did this or that then it would all go away. But there was no response to that, those detractors now look abit silly.

They had a simple story, and stuck to it

A bit silly is understating it too. They look stupid, bitter, liars, the tricoteuse, jealous, malevolent and plain ugly. It's easy to recall those people on here who couched their comments in oh so faux concern posts.

itsstillmehere · 17/01/2025 12:54

I read a comment by Michelle Obama today that said her husband looked instantly more cute when she found out he came from Hawaii.
Imagine when Meghan found out Harry came from the RF of the UK. After all she didn't know anything about him 🙄

MrsFinkelstein · 17/01/2025 13:01

EdithWeston · 17/01/2025 10:58

I think that "complicated" is an attempt to suggest that the PoWess was somehow unreasonable in her messaging.

This is because they took a simple, consistent and effective set of messages, and stuck to them, regardless of the KateGate malice, which they grey rocked completely.

Some people said her PR was dreadful - if she just did this or that then it would all go away. But there was no response to that, those detractors now look abit silly.

They had a simple story, and stuck to it

I think it's more alluding to the SM cesspit theory she never had cancer frankly, but I'm hoping the pp can respond and clarify exactly what she meant.

Baital · 17/01/2025 13:17

From what I remember the narrative consisted of:
PoW has been diagnosed with cancer and is receiving treatment.

Then:
PoW has completed her treatment and is in remission.

That doesn't seem 'complicated' to me, but each to their own...

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