Sussexes statement about Californian wildfires

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Meghan and Harry have released a statement in regards to the California wildfire via their Sussex.com website.

It reads:

”In the last few days, wildfires in Southern California have raged through neighborhoods and devastated families, homes, schools, medical care centers, and so much more – affecting tens of thousands from all walks of life.
A state of emergency has been issued.
If you feel compelled to help, here are some resources and ideas:
Support
Organizations such as José Andrés’ World Central Kitchen, which has been a longtime partner of The Archewell Foundation, are serving meals to both first responders and victims of the fire.
CAL FIRE and LA Fire Department Foundation and others are working closely to support firefighters who risk their lives, bravely showing up in these high-risk environments to help save homes, families, and communities in need.
Animal Wellness Foundation is continuing to house and care for animals evacuated by the fires while Compton Cowboys is providing emergency transportation services for horses.
Airbnb and 211LA have partnered to provide free, temporary housing for those who have been displaced.

Baby2baby is providing essential supplies including diapers, clothing, hygiene products, and emergency kits to families in need.
All Power Books and many others are staying open for emergency use, offering supplies and water for pickup while working tirelessly to distribute essentials to those affected.

Open your home
If a friend, loved one, or pet has to evacuate and you are able to offer them a safe haven in your home, please do. And be sure to check in with any disabled or elderly neighbors to see if they need help evacuating.
Give back
Some families and people have been left with nothing. Please consider donating clothing, children’s toys & clothing, and other essentials. The American Red Cross is on the ground helping those in need.”

They have done a lot of harm to the image of the UK and certainly to the British monarchy,
Have they, though? By what metric are we measuring the harm?

In terms of image of the UK, does anyone really associate Harry and Meghan with the UK, five years on from Megxit? During which time we’ve had plenty of other embarrassments shitting on our own doorstep: Boris Johnson and Liz Truss together have done more harm both in real, tangible terms and therefore image.

The monarchy has sailed on as usual. No one really cares. They’ve weathered scandals before and since, from Squidgygate and tampons and toe-sucking and Andrew and It’s A Royal Knockout to Philip running over Diana and Andrew again and bringing back Camilla (Meghan really ought to use her PR rehabilitation plan, she went from most-hated to being accepted as Queen!); Megxit is old news, superseded by Kate’s photoshop which itself is now forgotten and we’re on to the next thing.

She's an actress. Not a very good one either. Always looks like a phoney and often can't stop herself from smirking.

Yes, they’ve done a lot of damage just look what happened during Kate’s illness. They’ve been feeding online trolls for the past few years with hate and lies. I’m glad they’ve stopped because what Sussex supports did during the ‘Where’s Kate?’ debacle really showed the true mean girl spirit of that group.

I give it 10 seconds until some poster pretends it never happened. We were all there. We saw it. The glee that she might be dead or dying or the PW was a wife beater was completely gross. And not really proportional to the critiques of H and M by what they so delightfully termed ‘derangers’.

They are encouraging gullible fools to believe that celebrities are better than people who aren't celebrities.

The worship of celebrities who have no discernible talent is a stain on society.

Not retracted, @MrsLeonFarrell, excused. She hasn’t retracted what she said, she’s blamed the audience for hearing it.

I concur about the titles. Harry and Meghan Mountbatten-Windsor can do what they want and I won’t turn a hair.

does anyone really associate Harry and Meghan with the UK, five years on from Megxit?

They have deliberately retained the titles that bestow upon them the styles and titles of Prince and Princess of the United Kingdom, the Duke and Duchess of Sussex (in the United Kingdom), and knight (thus 'sir' and 'lady') of the United Kingdom). They announced their family name to be 'Sussex' last year, as per their UK styles and titles. Their children are Prince and Princess of the United Kingdom, consequent to a public decision taken by the adult Sussexes.

During which time we’ve had plenty of other embarrassments shitting on our own doorstep: Boris Johnson and Liz Truss

The thread is not about Boris Johnson and Liz Truss. It's about the Sussexes and the Californian wildfires.

The thread is not about Boris Johnson and Liz Truss. It's about the Sussexes and the Californian wildfires.
No duh. Thanks, Captain Obvious! Yet we had several pages about Beatrice attending Davos.

I’m well aware of what the thread is about, don’t be disingenuous. I’m clearly responding to the comment that they’ve done harm to the image of the UK (a comment which also has nothing to do with their statement on the wildfires, but I don’t see you policing that! Is it only comments in defence of them that need to stay strictly on topic?); it’s reasonable to respond to that idea by pointing out that in the time Meghan and Harry have been together, the UK hasn’t exactly painted itself in a glorious light. They can only harm the UK’s image of the UK has a good image to harm; and again, what metric of harm are we using?

Threads obviously grow in scope – this one started in response to the Sussex statement on the wildfires then grew to encompass their visit to Pasadena; along the way related ideas are discussed. This is how the internet works; it’s a discussion forum.

probably mentioned upthread, but interesting that they tried to mirror a royal visit.

when W&K went to Salford (weeks after the event) they met first responders publicly and victims families in private. It was fairly low key but got a lot of attention because it was one of Kate’s first engagements after her illness and they act as the public face representing the head of state and by extension, the whole country, so it’s not really about them as individuals.

This was never going to work for M&H as the situation is still raw/ongoing and they do not hold the same status/gravitas. They were lucky they weren’t treated like the king of Spain, though the whole event looked very controlled that they didn’t have to interact with any regular public. They would have done much better to turn up to a local centre, be humbly helpful and if they really wanted the PR - get someone to anonymously tip off the local news

@Chuchoter "The worship of celebrities who have no discernible talent is a stain on society"

Agreed. But surely this applies to the actual Royal Family too, not just the "Prince and Princess over the water"?

@Bontonbonbon " I’m glad they’ve stopped because what Sussex supports did during the ‘Where’s Kate?’ debacle really showed the true mean girl spirit of that group.

I give it 10 seconds until some poster pretends it never happened. We were all there. We saw it. The glee that she might be dead or dying or the PW was a wife beater was completely gross."

I genuinely don't see how that can be linked directly to H&M. There was some very grim stuff posted. Are you saying H&M initiated it?

The main misunderstanding by Meghan and her supporters is that the RF are not celebrities. They aren’t merching themselves for a payday.

The King is the head of state who undertakes diplomatic and state duties on behalf of the government and the people of Britain. His family support him in this by undertaking some of that work, including public relations activities on behalf of national bodies and government agencies. They also do things to support the royal estates.

The Prince and Princess of Wales appear to support charities, not to attract viewers to a cooking show or sell books.

The fact that Sussex defenders still
cannot tell the difference speaks volumes really.

Who's angry with them? Certainly not me.

I find them distracting and am equal parts bemused, entertained and irritated by them.

Same as the Kardashians (or any PR driven sleb).

Harry and Meghan absolutely promoted the narrative that led to the Princess of Wales online bullying. They could have reined it in at any point (as other public figures do) but they chose not to.

Which tells you all you need to know about Meghan’s fake facade of kindness and anti-bullying.

💯 this.

Every time they use their and their children's titles the UK is referenced. Because those titles are only meaningful in the UK.

I genuinely don’t understand this post or this type of post, and it contributes to some of the thread narrative where we all lock horns and bash against each other because there’s this constant assumption that: if you’re even in the slightest defence of Meghan – even if you acknowledge faults, or were in the “Kate’s missing” trenches defending her too – you must (a) be Sussex Squad, and (b) be so deeply entrenched in the discussions you know the ins and outs, lore and gossip and everything else. Not everyone is that obsessed or has that much time!

Google isn’t actually helpful, given how awash in unhinged Meghan hatred the internet is.

The relentless bullying of Kate last year and the gleeful rumour-spreading was awful but it was internet-wide, in mainstream media too. It can’t all have come directly from M&H or those acting for them. I thought the organised stuff was meant to come from Russia and other bad actors who use M&H as a tool to spread discord.

Once again. The RF are not celebrities. They represent the Crown and they represent the Constitutional Monarchy of the UK. They have a State role.

If you view them as celebrities then that's your error.

Edit - spelling

@Rhaidimiddim "I don't believe for a moment that you are unaware of these links - I believe yours is a pigeon post intended to promote a narrative that there is no link between the bullying of W&K and Markle."

I don't know what a pigeon post is. However, I must admit that I don't spend a lot of time researching this subject-I just assume that conspiracy theories are rampant. Because they are. But if the links are there, they are there.

They are there. People who ran accounts that were extremely active in photoshopping pictures to show that Prince William was a wife beater and spreading coordinated attacks online we’re greeted and thanked by H and M during the Nigeria tour, which came AFTER the online bullying of the POW.

If they aren’t part of it then they are at the very least endorsing it.

Personally, I see their drop-off in popularity in Hollywood as dating from this time.

She signed with WME, and probably at that time still had some reputation to salvage.

The WME stable and circle (well, some at least) probably believed that she and H were still privvy to BRF secrets at some level. When K went missing, she used that as an opportunity to revive the all-is-not-well-in-their-marriage rumour.

The more gullible celebs went with it, and probably thought they were being cool and cutting, riding a trend that would shake the BRF again, and they would be part of it.

They got burned, and blame H&M. And H&M were revealed as being completely cut off from the BRF.

The kind of harm they did to the UK was stating publicly to a global audience that this country is enveloped in racism. They both presented a storyline that the UK is racist, they claimed the future queen, Catherine is racist, they claimed Charles, the future King at that point, is also racist. Harry still claims they are not safe in the UK, because of lurkers ready to throw acid on them or knife them.

This is such a distorted view of Britain.

Until very recently, posters/trolls would come on here, shouting racism at even the slightest negative discussion about H&M.

H&M are nothing but grief vultures using tragedy to try and repair their brand image.

If they weren't the most hypocritical people on the face of the planet, they'd hand back all their titles, stop calling their kids Prince/Princess and get to work. But they won't, because they want to use the titles to make money. Because they are nothing without their titles.

I agree with this. I’d have a bit more respect for them (I currently have zero) if they dropped their titles. Meghan in particular (as she wasn’t born with it) should drop it as it’s so obvious she desperately needs it and doesn’t believe in herself or her work enough to just be Meghan Markle on her projects.

Or as Harry says ‘silence is complicity’ (I maybe paraphrasing).

The root of the conspiracy theories, and the relentless and sickening online bullying of Catherine originated from the Sussex Squad. That was unhinged. The Sussex Squad are unhinged. Just because this isn’t convenient for some posters as it makes their accusations of Meghan getting bullied hypocritical, doesn’t mean it didn’t happen. It did. Unfortunately for some, online is forever. We all know H&M support the Sussex Squad, take members with them on tours etc. They are hypocrites too.