With Love, Meghan - criticisms and genuine concern for her mental health

[Lavenderfarmcottage]

I am probably going to be flogged for posting this and chased down the dark laneways of Mumsnet as bystanders yell “Shame Shame Shame”.

I weighed in yesterday about a thread on Meghan and her new Netflix show. I made some criticisms about the trailer and certain cliche’s in the way it was produced. Hypocritical of me to be posting this but I feel guilty and have reflected. I am actually looking forward to watching it on Netflix and my criticisms were pretty minor and not exclusive to her show - it’s a common issue I have.

Meghan has struggled with mental health because of criticism. The reaction to ‘With Love… Meghan’ has been fairly brutal.

I think it would be really good if we refrained from saying anything negative about the series or Meghan Markle. That’s not the point of this thread.

I want to know if you think the criticisms have gone too far. The Princess of Wales is not on the scene and we are protective of her rightly so. That leaves Meghan as media fodder though.

Do you think it’s time Meghan and Harry were given a break ? I do. I think we’ve been far too harsh and the criticisms have gotten out of hand.

I think we also forget the cultural relevance. If we went into the homes or Gwyneth, Julia Roberts etc and I would probably feel the divide too. American culture doesn’t apologise for wealth and hollywoood is highly competitive.

Having a confident demeanour, throwing your head back Julia Roberts style when you laugh and unapologetically selling $$$ vagina products like Gwyneth Paltrow is how it over there. People talk loudly and confidently and are polished and rehearsed especially in the
Competitive world of Hollywood…

Are we all being too hard ?

I think it's widely known that the queen's family nickname was Lilibet?

Edited for spelling

Prince Philip also called her 'cabbage' affectionately!
Luckily that wasn't chosen.

Well lord only knows you might as well, after all the time you've wasted here, arguing with all and sundry about someone you claim to not want to know anything about!

The point is we don’t know Archie is George’s nickname.

It makes no sense, Archie is not a contraction of George, it”s short for Archibald.

George was probably joking, the kids have a mischievous sense of humour.

I actually laughed when I read this.

It’s an agenda some are only too keen to latch onto. The irony is, MM does not thank them for it.

The old fart 🤣

It certainly is now 😂
As I said, shame no other names were right.

Yep. But according to Jumborollers it was a closely guarded secret.

Thanks for the info and I've never seen that photo before she looks lovely.

Nah, didn't need to. I know she isn't called Princess Meghan without having to look it up anywhere. I can also spell. Not a goal post in sight - I have no idea what you're talking about! It's garbage!

No, you just make yourself look ill-informed.

Gosh there's some claptrap on here today along with a great deal of ignorance about the UK.

Wasn't it Marion Crawford in the 1950s? 1960s? That published QE2's family nickname was Lilibet? Widely known for decades.

Meghan and the woman trying to tell her story were originally sat together. Infact I'm sure that seating plan was very much deliberately so the woman could speak to her. Presumably nobody was aware Meghan was going to launch herself onto the floor and insist everyone to get down there with her 😆

The man who was overseeing the optics 'helped one of the other women' to get on the floor (nearly pushed her over on to her knees). He then directed Meghan to the woman relating her story. Obviously Meghan had made the mistake of demanding everyone sat on the floor in the 1st place, so it'd look really bad if she got back up to sit next to the woman... However, she could have at least listened to her story vs a few gormless glances in her general direction, a few 'Mmm's'. Then back to the important business of staging the photos of herself.

She wasn't pregnant at that point. She just hadn't took Archie along with her. Instead she took some hand me down baby clothes.

Insightful post, especially about the ‘help’ in UK being upper class.

That may have been true maybe half a century ago, but it's not anymore.

Google the team Meghan had working with her as a royal. Lots of savvy young people, many of them women, from a range of ethnic backgrounds and nationalities. Meghan was very lucky to have such talented staff working just for her, without having to pay them a penny. But for some people, nothing is ever enough.

She’s unbelievably rude in that video.

If that was my story and I was trying to tell it to Meghan then I would have been upset by the encounter and lack of engagement and empathy.
Meghan was more than distracted, she was inattentive and rude and it doesn’t come across well at all. That story would have hugely affected me. It did when I heard it. That lady deserved to be treated with more respect. Meghan was barely paying her any attention and I don’t think she was taking it in otherwise she wouldn’t have behaved how she did. I hope.

It's awkward isn't when the person you're naming your child after is not pleased about it?😂

@Poppyseeds79 Probably not, but perhaps faffing around with cakes and flowers from the outset would still have been a better strategy than what they did. I honestly think that the interviews and “Spare” turned people against them - better to have got on with something fresh and new right away.

Anyway, hindsight is a wonderful thing.

I can't help but think what Diana would have done (as Harry and the SS make out Meghan is Diana 2.0).

Diana would have sat right next to that woman, turning in her chair to face her and would have likely held her hands while she was speaking. Hugs would more than likely been generously deployed. Diana would have cried. I think Catherine and Sophie would have done similar to Diana actually in that situation, (edit) but not so demonstrative.

I'm not a Diana fan by any means, I think she was a deeply flawed, often annoying individual but her empathy cannot be disputed.

In that meeting, the chairs were set up, Meghan should never have sat on the floor and made the othera do so, the majority of women clearly weren't keen on getting on the ground.

It’s not a one off either, remember the smirking video of her when an autistic woman was singing the Canadian national anthem? even Harry wouldn’t look at Meghan when she was trying to catch his eye.

You are a satirical genius.

Thanks.

I think?

I completely agree. I was thinking exactly the same thing. There definitely would have been more listening, more interaction and more empathy had it been Diana, Catherine or Sophie. Or anyone!