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Meghan back on Instagram

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PrettyFlyforaMaiTai · 01/01/2025 17:21

Looks like she’s back on Instagram

www.instagram.com/meghan/reel/DESeJO5vFSN/

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PrettyFlyforaMaiTai · 03/01/2025 16:13

Thanks for the Emma’s Kitchen Longleat (the Marchioness of Bath) recommendations. She is absolutely delightful and I love the history of the house and all its treasures within that she includes in her videos 🥰

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TulipTiptoer · 03/01/2025 16:20

Lifestooshort71 · 03/01/2025 16:04

No matter what you think of what her trailer shows, The Tig did show her interest in food and hosting. She’s doing work which isn’t based on (trashing) the RF. Time to let her work stand or fall on its own merits for those of us who sit in the middle.
Totally agree. Someone upthread said there is a grey area where a lot of us sit re Meghan, we're neither superfans nor 'haters' (horrible word but it seems to be used quite a bit) and those of us in this grey zone want her to do well at this venture without necessarily wanting to watch the series. I think it's time to give the woman a break.

This exactly.
Totally agree

Spectre8 · 03/01/2025 16:22

wordler · 03/01/2025 16:10

But that’s the point -it’s a pregnancy pose.

You aren’t supposed to be posing for the cameras when you are presenting an award to someone else.

It looks performative and weird off the red carpet / photoshoot situation.

It looks out of place - hence people commenting on it.

Well if you see other pictures from the event it was clearly something they were doing at that event, taking photos of the winners when they were awarded it.

She is standing on stage, like you stop snd stand on red carpet shower it's for pictures to be taken, waiting to be interviewed, waiting to move along the carpet...who da fuck is thay bothered. Seriously it's utterly ridiculous to ridicule someone for holding their bump.

PoppysAunt · 03/01/2025 16:25

PrettyFlyforaMaiTai · 03/01/2025 16:13

Thanks for the Emma’s Kitchen Longleat (the Marchioness of Bath) recommendations. She is absolutely delightful and I love the history of the house and all its treasures within that she includes in her videos 🥰

Emma is great, I think. A very good presenter and obviously a good cook. She faced racism but has carved out a very productive and successful role.
She was also on Strictly! I have a lot of respect for her.

TulipTiptoer · 03/01/2025 16:26

The negative tone only really took off after the Oprah interview.

Totally disagree

There are many examples from the early days. Poisonous lily of the valley, Kate used the flowers and it signified love, Meghan used it, she was trying to poison Charlotter! Kate using scents for the church but when Meghan did it, it was pilloried. So sweet that Kate cradles her bump, but Meghan is attention seeking.
I think history is being rewritten here, this was all before Oprah, I remember the endless negativity about her.

Spectre8 · 03/01/2025 16:29

wordler · 03/01/2025 16:05

It’s not if I say so - it’s clear in the articles you mentioned. A big part of the narrative around Meghan being treated differently in the press than Kate started with that Buzzfeed article which was very flawed in that it wasn’t comparing like for like in terms of timelines of reporting on the royal women. And it didn’t take into account the issue of current clickbait use of Meghan’s name at the height of her fame in the UK.

Which is ironic as Buzzfeed’s whole business model was clickbait.

In the main stream press there were a small handful - 3-4 clear racist headlines/copy/mentions. All unacceptable.

From memory - the Straight Outta Compton headline (USA copywriter for UK tab) Danny Baker’s deplorable monkey photo comment and I think a couple of ‘exotic bloodline’ for the royals mentions.

And of course a LOT of racism in the comments sections which they should have clamped down on.

But actual mainstream articles and reporting was almost all positive when it was reporting directly on Meghan - not just mentioning her in vague connection to another story for clickbait.

The negative tone only really took off after the Oprah interview.

Are you seriously saying the negative tone took odd only after the Oprah interview...

Most people would say its seriously took off the moment we saw the Straight Outta Compton headline (USA copywriter for UK tab) Danny Baker’s deplorable monkey photo comment and I think a couple of ‘exotic bloodline’ for the royals mentions.

Ohpleeeease · 03/01/2025 16:31

TulipTiptoer · 03/01/2025 16:26

The negative tone only really took off after the Oprah interview.

Totally disagree

There are many examples from the early days. Poisonous lily of the valley, Kate used the flowers and it signified love, Meghan used it, she was trying to poison Charlotter! Kate using scents for the church but when Meghan did it, it was pilloried. So sweet that Kate cradles her bump, but Meghan is attention seeking.
I think history is being rewritten here, this was all before Oprah, I remember the endless negativity about her.

None of those examples are exact comparisons. And none of it was due to race, however much you wish it so.

wordler · 03/01/2025 16:32

I’m talking about main stream articles in news publications.

I agree that social media and comment sections were critical from the start - along with a lot of support for her too. But social media and comment sections are awful places when there is no moderation.

TulipTiptoer · 03/01/2025 16:32

Ohpleeeease · 03/01/2025 16:31

None of those examples are exact comparisons. And none of it was due to race, however much you wish it so.

You will have to think what you want. We all have opinions don't we...
They are direct comparisons.

Serenster · 03/01/2025 16:39

Yes, but Meghan was posing deliberately to draw attention to her pregnancy, an an event that was all about someone’s else. She was constantly doing that while out and about while pregnant too - as demonstrated in the live footage, she was constantly focussed on making sure the photographers could see her pregnant tummy, not just her coat falling down and obscuring it.

it’s not a crime, obviously, and it is common Hollywood celebrity behaviour, but it does go back to a constant problem that Meghan has - she was acting as a celebrity when she was no longer in that world. She struggled (and still struggles, in my opinion) to come across as authentic because she comes across as hyper-aware and hyper-focussed on how she is coming across - she never seems to be “in the moment”. Or truly focussed on someone else when that would be appropriate - as it often was in the royal family.

It was picked up on by the author of the interview and article conducted by The Cut magazine, who noted that Meghan came across like she had a tiny tv director in her head at all times (the Bachelor was the tv series referenced) making sure she hit the right marks and said the right thing.

Having said that, while I wouldn’t watch a heavily scripted celebrity food/styling love-in, no matter who was involved, I do hope this venture succeeds. Because it does seem much more her wheelhouse and I can see it could draw an audience. And she and Harry need to find a way of earning a decent income. We can all see from Andrew’s example that cash-strapped royals with high opinions of themselves can make very poor choices, and no-one wants that for them! Well, not me anyway.

Atlasvue · 03/01/2025 16:41

From the political Right of Megan McCain to the lefty Guardian. Ouch!!! The Guardian is very funny.

https://amp.theguardian.com/wellness/2025/jan/03/meghan-markle-netflix-show

The trailer, which looks like a “quiet luxury”Pinterest board come to life, is a symphony of beige: beige sweaters, beige hummus, beige focaccia, personalized beige candles and an assortment of beige flowers. “I see what color I gravitate to, and everything goes from there,” Meghan says, re: beige flower arrangements.

The series was not filmed at Meghan and Harry’s $14.6m Tuscan-inspired estate but a few miles away at the $8m Montecito estate of philanthropists Tom and Sherrie Cipolla. A cheaper, more relatable backdrop.

Meghan back on Instagram
Serenster · 03/01/2025 16:44

TulipTiptoer · 03/01/2025 16:26

The negative tone only really took off after the Oprah interview.

Totally disagree

There are many examples from the early days. Poisonous lily of the valley, Kate used the flowers and it signified love, Meghan used it, she was trying to poison Charlotter! Kate using scents for the church but when Meghan did it, it was pilloried. So sweet that Kate cradles her bump, but Meghan is attention seeking.
I think history is being rewritten here, this was all before Oprah, I remember the endless negativity about her.

What about all the similar negative allegations levied at Kate that weren’t levied at Meghan though? Or all the things the press did to Kate that they didn’t do to Meghan? They are not irrelevant to a discussion of how the press treated recently married-in women, and the conclusions you can draw about the press’ motivations.

You seem to be looking at only one side of the story and drawing your conclusions from that. That’s obviously going to give you a one-sided view.

Spectre8 · 03/01/2025 16:47

@Serenster it’s not a crime, obviously, and it is common Hollywood celebrity behaviour, but it does go back to a constant problem that Meghan has - she was acting as a celebrity when she was no longer in that world

Or maybe she is just acting like most prwgannat women do. I see plenty of them out and about touching their bumps or have one hand resting on top of it. It's not just some Hollywood/celebrity behaviour.

Whatever next...telling people who pose for photos thats only celebrity behaviour and your not a celebrity so don't do it 😆

Uricon2 · 03/01/2025 16:50

PrettyFlyforaMaiTai · 03/01/2025 16:13

Thanks for the Emma’s Kitchen Longleat (the Marchioness of Bath) recommendations. She is absolutely delightful and I love the history of the house and all its treasures within that she includes in her videos 🥰

Agreed, knew who she was but hadn't seen anything and having now done so now am impressed, she comes over very well. Following in the tradition of Debo Devonshire in being hands on and involved in the "family business".

(Now Debo doing a lifestyle show I would have watched Grin)

HilariousNames · 03/01/2025 16:51

Spectre8 · 03/01/2025 16:47

@Serenster it’s not a crime, obviously, and it is common Hollywood celebrity behaviour, but it does go back to a constant problem that Meghan has - she was acting as a celebrity when she was no longer in that world

Or maybe she is just acting like most prwgannat women do. I see plenty of them out and about touching their bumps or have one hand resting on top of it. It's not just some Hollywood/celebrity behaviour.

Whatever next...telling people who pose for photos thats only celebrity behaviour and your not a celebrity so don't do it 😆

She wasn’t just touching her bump. She was ostentatiously cradling it at every opportunity, making it the whole focus of attention in situations where it was totally inappropriate.

Ohpleeeease · 03/01/2025 16:53

Uricon2 · 03/01/2025 16:50

Agreed, knew who she was but hadn't seen anything and having now done so now am impressed, she comes over very well. Following in the tradition of Debo Devonshire in being hands on and involved in the "family business".

(Now Debo doing a lifestyle show I would have watched Grin)

Too right!

Julie Montagu is worth a look too, her work on and for the family she married into is impressive. American too.

Serenster · 03/01/2025 16:54

I think it’s clear we won’t agree on this point. I see a lot of women rubbing their bump, smoothing their hand over it, etc, as I am sure I did myself - but unselfconsciously, because they are just naturally touching it as part of their body, or reacting to a particular kick, or a floor in their ribcage eg etc.

Some of the times Meghan did that I’m sure it was the same. But if there were photographers around, it was generally not. Video footage show it was conscious and deliberate - she’d swap her handbag from one hand to another so she had the hand closest to the cameras free to pull back her coat etc. She’d repeat the same unnatural action.

LaMarschallin · 03/01/2025 16:55

wordler

From memory - the Straight Outta Compton headline (USA copywriter for UK tab) Danny Baker’s deplorable monkey photo comment and I think a couple of ‘exotic bloodline’ for the royals mentions.

I thought the "Straight Outta Compton" headline was, as you say, a US copywriter retitling an article called something like "Meghan fails the mum test" and speculating what Diana would have thought of her. That article also contained the reference to "exotic DNA" and, afaics, other references to "exotic bloodline" were misquotes from that.
The Danny Baker thing was awful but was on SM (Twitter?) not the mainstream press, as is so often said. Yes, he was working for the BBC as a radio presenter and was immediately sacked by the BBC.

People write as if there were front page headlines daily about "exotic blood" and pictures of chimps on the 10 O' Clock news, when it seems to boil down to an article, a tweet and a Buzzfeed article that's been quoted over and over about avocados, Lily of the Valley and scented candles.

Ontobetterthings · 03/01/2025 16:59

I'm not Meghan Markle fan but I'm sick of all the negative articles. There's been that many i blocked the articles from my browser. I then look on daily mail and there's MM top story and a bitchy article.

They are constantly sitting her against KM. It's total woman bashing. I wish they would just leave her alone now. It's disgraceful

TulipTiptoer · 03/01/2025 17:00

That article also contained the reference to "exotic DNA" and, afaics, other references to "exotic bloodline" were misquotes from that.

I believe it was Rachel Johnson, Boris's sister, who wrote the article talking of the exotic blood coming into the royal family

Samcro · 03/01/2025 17:04

How long ago did the bump stuff happen?
and what has it got to do with the topic of the thread?

Serenster · 03/01/2025 17:06

Can you imagine if CNN had written this about Meghan instead of Kate…

”Catherine’s commoner genes might lead to a somewhat darker-skinned baby, Saggar said.
The royals, he explained, are pretty pale. Catherine’s skin has a considerably more olive tone, and the baby will likely be somewhere between the two – but more like Catherine because her genes are dominant over lighter ones. “The odds are the child will have darker skin color than the royals might be used to,” Saggar said”

https://edition.cnn.com/2013/07/03/health/royal-baby-appearance/index.html

What – and who – will the royal baby look like? | CNN

Bets are already being placed on the appearance of the royal baby – the future king or queen of England.

https://edition.cnn.com/2013/07/03/health/royal-baby-appearance/index.html

LaMarschallin · 03/01/2025 17:09

TulipTiptoer · 03/01/2025 17:00

That article also contained the reference to "exotic DNA" and, afaics, other references to "exotic bloodline" were misquotes from that.

I believe it was Rachel Johnson, Boris's sister, who wrote the article talking of the exotic blood coming into the royal family

You believe correctly.
ETA Actual quote was, I think, "exotic DNA".

wordler · 03/01/2025 17:09

Samcro · 03/01/2025 17:04

How long ago did the bump stuff happen?
and what has it got to do with the topic of the thread?

Because someone defending Meghan’s popularity brought up her previous news coverage which led to a discussion about the fairness or unfairness of coverage of her in the press and social media.

It’s connected as far as will her current projects get fair coverage or not based on perception of her.

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