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Extiainoiapeial · 17/02/2025 22:24

It's the Epstein files...and what has been ignored.

www.thedailybeast.com/kash-patel-vows-to-probe-jeffrey-epstein-pals-as-fbi-director/

BemusedAmerican · 18/02/2025 02:53

elessar · 17/02/2025 22:10

How are they going to probe Epstein when he died 6 years ago?

Obviously by using psychics and necromancers.

Extiainoiapeial · 18/02/2025 07:23

A dead man isn't being investigated. This is obvious if you read about it. However, what he has left behind has not gone away. There are many powerful men who are hoping this dies, especially Clinton, Andrew, Sarah etc. even the Times has just written about it, I've archived it as it's behind a pay wall

archive.ph/874m3

WatchOutMissMarpleIsAbout · 18/02/2025 07:30

Omg Clinton took 17 flights. Trump 8. Fergie on her own. Lot of big names in that article. I’ve said on another thread, all those men and only a woman convicted. Pisses me right off. I hope justice comes for every single man & woman who covered up.. That includes but is not limited to Andrew.

IAmATorturedPoet · 18/02/2025 09:59

WatchOutMissMarpleIsAbout · 18/02/2025 07:30

Omg Clinton took 17 flights. Trump 8. Fergie on her own. Lot of big names in that article. I’ve said on another thread, all those men and only a woman convicted. Pisses me right off. I hope justice comes for every single man & woman who covered up.. That includes but is not limited to Andrew.

💯
I have actually read that the flights Bill Clinton took on 'Lolita Express' could be closer to 26 and that he had a favourite seat!

WatchOutMissMarpleIsAbout · 18/02/2025 10:49

Words fail me. I may have missed it but do we know how many Andrew took? If he took more than 3/4 before Epstein’s conviction then I can’t see how he didn’t know about Epstein. After conviction then there is no excuse.

IAmATorturedPoet · 18/02/2025 11:26

WatchOutMissMarpleIsAbout · 18/02/2025 10:49

Words fail me. I may have missed it but do we know how many Andrew took? If he took more than 3/4 before Epstein’s conviction then I can’t see how he didn’t know about Epstein. After conviction then there is no excuse.

I’m not sure on Andrew. I have seen it reported ‘at least 3 times’, some say 4, others ‘multiple’. Maybe another poster will come along with something more concrete on numbers and dates?

Extiainoiapeial · 18/02/2025 11:32

IAmATorturedPoet · 18/02/2025 11:26

I’m not sure on Andrew. I have seen it reported ‘at least 3 times’, some say 4, others ‘multiple’. Maybe another poster will come along with something more concrete on numbers and dates?

Trump flew 8 times according to flight logs. Andrew 4.

I don't think we can quantify it any more, even with the flight logs. As even they are unclear given it's initials etc. I've tried to look!

Tomatotater · 19/02/2025 07:21

Do the flight logs include stays at his apartments etc though? He stayed for a week at his apartment well after he had first been convicted. He invited him to Buckingham Palace/Balmoral/ Beas birthday party etc that we know about. He wasn't a casual acquaintance. He emailed him after he said he had ceased contact saying " Let's play soon" ( play what and how? Golf? Something else?) so clearly had no intention of actually ceasing contact. It sounds like he wanted to carry on contact but Epstein ceased contact with him. They are all disgusting to have even flown on a plane called the 'Lolita Express' and they at best sniggeringly dismissed Epsteins proclivities but we know Andrew lied about his contact with him and brought him into the heart of the Royal Family.

Extiainoiapeial · 19/02/2025 09:14

Tomatotater · 19/02/2025 07:21

Do the flight logs include stays at his apartments etc though? He stayed for a week at his apartment well after he had first been convicted. He invited him to Buckingham Palace/Balmoral/ Beas birthday party etc that we know about. He wasn't a casual acquaintance. He emailed him after he said he had ceased contact saying " Let's play soon" ( play what and how? Golf? Something else?) so clearly had no intention of actually ceasing contact. It sounds like he wanted to carry on contact but Epstein ceased contact with him. They are all disgusting to have even flown on a plane called the 'Lolita Express' and they at best sniggeringly dismissed Epsteins proclivities but we know Andrew lied about his contact with him and brought him into the heart of the Royal Family.

He was guest of honour at a Dinner staying at his NY mansion after the first conviction. That's a funny way to ghost someone and have nothing more to do with them... but of course in Andrew's crap talking 'he is too honourable' and had to do it this way.
What has been proven without doubt is... he is a liar. And I don't know why the media don't focus more on this. He's protected.

BigMoonRising · 20/02/2025 22:42

Kash Patel has now been confirmed as head of FBI - so I guess it’s now a matter of ‘wait and see’ if he will lift any investigative pause there seems to be on the Epstein files. Personally I think there are too many famous men associated with this for a full investigation to ever see the light of day, sadly.

wordler · 20/02/2025 23:54

BigMoonRising · 20/02/2025 22:42

Kash Patel has now been confirmed as head of FBI - so I guess it’s now a matter of ‘wait and see’ if he will lift any investigative pause there seems to be on the Epstein files. Personally I think there are too many famous men associated with this for a full investigation to ever see the light of day, sadly.

Kash Patel who is a self proclaimed member of “Trump’s Army”?

Who has openly expressed support for the people who broke into the Capitol on Jan 6th?

Who had openly supported the idea of going after and punishing anyone who has opposed Trump?

Who has no actual experience and is pro dismantling the FBI structure from within?

That Kash Patel?

You think he’ll open an investigation that might implicate Trump?

BigMoonRising · 20/02/2025 23:59

No @Wordler I don’t. Or more truthfully, I highly doubt he will open another investigation for what it is worth. But it was one of the things he promised he was going to do before being confirmed as FBI head. That is why the possibility of a new investigation has been mentioned on this thread.

CathyorClaire · 21/02/2025 20:50

Fergie on her own

Always worth noting Epstein had more private numbers listed for Fergie than even for Andrew and negotiated down a substantial amount of debt for her (although I'm not sure how given it was allegedly unpaid wages to an aide but still).

Personally I think there's as much of a story starring the happy-go-lucky ex as there is of her hapless hubby but inexplicably it's never drawn the heat.

Extiainoiapeial · 21/02/2025 21:51

Yep she was knee deep in this. He paid her debt for some PR guy off.
But apologised profusely course she did

ThePoshUns · 22/02/2025 18:58

An article in today's Times. There is a new book coming out following an investigation into Andy's finances.
It's murky and mysterious, however the wider family are implicated including Fergie , Beatrice and Eugenie. Even Zara doesn't seem to be immune.
It's about time the veil was pulled and a govt entquiry into it all.

Prince Andrew’s finances: my four-year quest to uncover the truth

www.thetimes.com/article/d796291a-2c0d-4e54-8e40-83aa5d8aad7e?shareToken=2d327a480ad3c562fa1d85d8c4d311d5

IdaGlossop · 22/02/2025 19:31

ThePoshUns · 22/02/2025 18:58

An article in today's Times. There is a new book coming out following an investigation into Andy's finances.
It's murky and mysterious, however the wider family are implicated including Fergie , Beatrice and Eugenie. Even Zara doesn't seem to be immune.
It's about time the veil was pulled and a govt entquiry into it all.

Prince Andrew’s finances: my four-year quest to uncover the truth

www.thetimes.com/article/d796291a-2c0d-4e54-8e40-83aa5d8aad7e?shareToken=2d327a480ad3c562fa1d85d8c4d311d5

The more I read about the Royal family's finances, the more furious I become. They are already rich beyond measure. Why ever do they need to spend so much energy enriching themselves yet further? I thought the daughters had more sense than to sully themselves with their parents grubby dealings, but apparently not. And Zara Tindall, well able to earn her own living, has to lie prone at the foot of her pedestal if this is how she behaves. Blair, my finger is pointing at you too.

wordler · 22/02/2025 19:55

What was Zara’s involvement?

CathyorClaire · 22/02/2025 20:04

Thanks, ThePoshUns

Great article and it summarises neatly a lot of what we've already garnered about the York family's murky finances.

It does leave out his historic use of a shell company specifically set up to hide royal investments from royal scrutiny so that's worth highlighting here:

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/apr/26/prince-andrew-held-investments-in-shell-company-set-up-to-keep-holdings-secret

Note late sainted Mummy and our current upstanding monarch also had holdings.

Fergie has always been a chancer albeit well concealed by the dim but lovable rogue persona and Bea and Euge appear to be cast in the same mold however hard they disingenuously bat their eyes at thousands plopping unexpectedly into their bank accounts.

I've been pointing out the Zara deal flagged here for years - including the fact she had her lawyers lie about it. £100k for six gigs a year yet apparently nothing to see 🙄

I don't care how successful she is at not falling off a horse. She's another royal grifter with snout immersed in the trough to the eyeballs and I'm delighted to see this stuff getting an airing.

CathyorClaire · 22/02/2025 20:11

Not royal scrutiny (they know exactly what they're up to).

Public scrutiny

wordler · 22/02/2025 20:17

@CathyorClaire can you share a link re the Zara stuff?

Extiainoiapeial · 22/02/2025 20:21

ThePoshUns · 22/02/2025 18:58

An article in today's Times. There is a new book coming out following an investigation into Andy's finances.
It's murky and mysterious, however the wider family are implicated including Fergie , Beatrice and Eugenie. Even Zara doesn't seem to be immune.
It's about time the veil was pulled and a govt entquiry into it all.

Prince Andrew’s finances: my four-year quest to uncover the truth

www.thetimes.com/article/d796291a-2c0d-4e54-8e40-83aa5d8aad7e?shareToken=2d327a480ad3c562fa1d85d8c4d311d5

My goodness me. Every royalist should read this article.

The whole family (Yorks) are grubby beyond belief. And Zara too? What an eye opener. And that's just what we know. They are all pigs in the trough and are all grifting like you wouldn't believe.
And "Beatrice and Eugenie the new faces of the Monarchy in the Middle East"

Just fuck off

CathyorClaire · 22/02/2025 20:27

wordler · 22/02/2025 20:17

@CathyorClaire can you share a link re the Zara stuff?

Of course:

https://archive.ph/Sx92K

Note grubby Pete rooting in the trough too, natch.

WatchOutMissMarpleIsAbout · 23/02/2025 06:42

Thank you

2 things I particularly noted.

Firstly that Charles didn’t want Andrew to have the envoy role. What issues did he foresee?

And secondly like with Epstein he stayed at a hotel not the embassy when in Thailand ‘away from prying eyes’.

ThePoshUns · 23/02/2025 07:46

Wasn't there a story he went to stay with friends for a few days and spent all of his time in his room watching porn? Grim.