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Charles cancer update

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PrettyFlyforaMaiTai · 20/12/2024 06:34

Charles’ cancer treatment will continue into next year

”his treatment has been moving in a positive direction and as a managed condition the treatment cycle will continue into next year" according to palace sources.

I don’t mean to be a negative Nelly but this doesn’t seem as positive as they’re trying to make out.

news.sky.com/story/kings-cancer-treatment-will-continue-into-next-year-sky-news-understands-13276684

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OneWittySquid · 20/12/2024 07:36

TaggieO · 20/12/2024 07:10

I thought it was prostate cancer? If you have to get cancer it’s tbe best one as extremely slow growing, and v responsive to hormonal treatments, but these do take longer than chemo.

Do you realise how tone deaf this really is. One of the best cancers to get christ. My poor DF has been suffering for 10 years, catheterised, operations every couple of months for stents. His body has been battle ground for so long he can barely walk is 9 stone and looks like skeleton and requires 24/7. His illness has had a profound effect on the extended family.My mothers health took a massive deadline being His carer and my auntie passed away last year and would run around trying to help.

EmotionalSupportCuttlefish · 20/12/2024 07:36

It will be a type of lymphoma I expect.

ChazsBrilliantAttitude · 20/12/2024 07:37

Petrasings · 20/12/2024 07:27

It was our understanding he has advanced pancreatic cancer.

I would be very surprised if it was this as pancreatic cancer is usually aggressive and causes noticeable weight loss quite quickly. (Family member died of it)

Something like lymphoma is more capable of being managed for quite a while.

EmotionalSupportCuttlefish · 20/12/2024 07:38

lolly792 · 20/12/2024 07:34

@EdithWeston Boris Johnson did write in his memoir that Queen Elizabeth had a bone cancer for some years before death.

(Giles Brandreth may also have written something about a blood cancer)

Neither had ever been officially reported though

I think Elizabeth had bone marrow cancer, myeloma, not bone cancer as such.

ButterCrackers · 20/12/2024 07:38

OneWittySquid · 20/12/2024 07:36

Do you realise how tone deaf this really is. One of the best cancers to get christ. My poor DF has been suffering for 10 years, catheterised, operations every couple of months for stents. His body has been battle ground for so long he can barely walk is 9 stone and looks like skeleton and requires 24/7. His illness has had a profound effect on the extended family.My mothers health took a massive deadline being His carer and my auntie passed away last year and would run around trying to help.

I feel that the poster was trying to say there is a good cure/can live longer rate compared to other cancers. All cancer is horrible.

TaggieO · 20/12/2024 07:39

OneWittySquid · 20/12/2024 07:36

Do you realise how tone deaf this really is. One of the best cancers to get christ. My poor DF has been suffering for 10 years, catheterised, operations every couple of months for stents. His body has been battle ground for so long he can barely walk is 9 stone and looks like skeleton and requires 24/7. His illness has had a profound effect on the extended family.My mothers health took a massive deadline being His carer and my auntie passed away last year and would run around trying to help.

10 years. And he’s still here. That’s pretty great. My dad had aggressive cancer that killed him in 3 months. I’d take a decade any day.

im sorry your dad is unwell but the fact remains that some cancers have much better outcomes than others, and prostate cancer is one of the best cancers for long term survival rates and non-invasive treatments. I’m sorry if that upsets you, but it is fact. I hope your dad has the best Christmas possible, in the circumstances. Has your mum got access to all the respite options available?

smilesy · 20/12/2024 07:39

Petrasings · 20/12/2024 07:32

Are you always so astonishingly rude? We were told it was pancreatic yes.

Who is “we” and what is your source please? PP are correct,’pancreatic cancer cannot be “managed”. If caught early it requires surgery. If caught late it has usually already spread and the prognosis is poor and by that stage people are obviously quite ill. Are you confusing it with prostate cancer? Also, I think we were told it wasn’t prostate cancer because he had another procedure on his prostate when the cancer was discovered. I dislike the speculation around what type of cancer it is because it is none of our business but as this is getting silly, I will say it’s more
likely that it is a cancer that he will “die with rather than of”, like bladder cancer, as others have said. But we have no real idea because he has chosen not to say as in his right

NetZeroZealot · 20/12/2024 07:40

OneWittySquid · 20/12/2024 07:36

Do you realise how tone deaf this really is. One of the best cancers to get christ. My poor DF has been suffering for 10 years, catheterised, operations every couple of months for stents. His body has been battle ground for so long he can barely walk is 9 stone and looks like skeleton and requires 24/7. His illness has had a profound effect on the extended family.My mothers health took a massive deadline being His carer and my auntie passed away last year and would run around trying to help.

So sorry to hear about your DF. All cancers are horrible but some will kill you more quickly. Your DF is still alive after 10 years. Many of us would be grateful for that.
And this illustrates why the RF have declined to name what the King has.
Because everyone’s experience of cancer is different.

MrsBennetsPoorNerves · 20/12/2024 07:40

Advanced pancreatic cancer would not have him going on overseas tours or hosting state visits etc. It's one of the most vicious and aggressive types of cancer you can get.

ThatKhakiMoose · 20/12/2024 07:41

Ozgirl75 · 20/12/2024 07:19

My dad has cancer at the moment, a bad one (mesothelioma) but they’ve told him it isn’t curable but is manageable for a “number of years” with immunotherapy and he is the same age as the King. I’m not saying the king has this (I doubt he worked with asbestos after all) but I’m just saying that even the most serious cancer can be managed for some time with treatment. His immunotherapy also continues for a while and he won’t lose his hair, plus he has no side effects so maybe the king is having this type of treatment.

Hi Ozgirl, I just wanted to say that I'm sorry your dad has mesothelioma. I lost my dad to that. It's a rare cancer that most haven't heard of.

There are some exciting new treatments for it, so I wish him the best of luck.

Two things that helped my dad's breathlessness: an electric handheld fan that he could hold in front of his mouth - apparently it drives the air in - and a wedge cushion to raise his shoulders and head up a little at night. I got him a fan for upstairs and downstairs, so he didn't have to climb the stairs to get it.

commonsense61 · 20/12/2024 07:41

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lolly792 · 20/12/2024 07:41

@EmotionalSupportCuttlefish why do you think you know what form of cancer Queen Elizabeth had?

BarbaraHoward · 20/12/2024 07:42

Petrasings · 20/12/2024 07:23

‘Managed ‘ in cancer terms means a terminal diagnosis.

We have been through this three times with our family members, and it was used by all three consultants as a term.

I don't think that's what terminal means.

A lot of cancers at this age are chronic conditions that are never cured. The person still has cancer when they die but they typically die of something else, usually something age related. This is a managed cancer.

A terminal cancer is one that is actively killing the person. I think even a stage 4 incurable cancer that will ultimately kill the patient isn't necessarily terminal (yet). It becomes terminal when they're out of treatment options and the person is actively dying. We have an elderly relative in the very extended family with stage 4 lung cancer receiving immunotherapy. It will certainly kill him but he's not terminal yet.

Open to correction from medics re "terminal".

TwigletsAndRadishes · 20/12/2024 07:43

User14March · 20/12/2024 06:43

Whilst perfectly acceptable to keep the personal private, this remark ‘he has deliberately not confirmed the type of cancer he is being treated for so he doesn’t detract from the significance of other forms of the illness’, does this not suggest very treatable/not a ‘bad’ cancer?

I don't think it suggests anything about any type of cancer. I think it's to stop the public and the MSM going into overdrive, speculating and over-analysing and comparing his chances of survival and how much longer he's got left, or not.

The same with the POW. They are dealing with whichever cancers they have and the outcome will be what it will be. They don't need to open the papers or fire up the internet every day to read that 'my brother had that type of cancer and he was dead within months' type comments.

Petrasings · 20/12/2024 07:44

Let’s just see what happens shall we. I believe we are being prepared. There was no reason to update the public at all.

SunnyValemin · 20/12/2024 07:44

Depends really. I've finished my 'hospital' treatment, but will be on tablets, injections etc for another 3 years. That's all preventative though, I'm considered to be cancer free in the words of my surgeon.

DogInATent · 20/12/2024 07:47

lolly792 · 20/12/2024 07:17

It was reported very early on that it wasn't prostrate cancer

Something more vertical then.

mitogoshigg · 20/12/2024 07:47

If it's the sort of cancer my friend has (similar age) it is managed, treated as a chronic condition and my friend was told it doesn't change his likely longevity. My friend had some chemo then went onto tablets which he'll take for the rest of his life

ButterCrackers · 20/12/2024 07:47

TwigletsAndRadishes · 20/12/2024 07:43

I don't think it suggests anything about any type of cancer. I think it's to stop the public and the MSM going into overdrive, speculating and over-analysing and comparing his chances of survival and how much longer he's got left, or not.

The same with the POW. They are dealing with whichever cancers they have and the outcome will be what it will be. They don't need to open the papers or fire up the internet every day to read that 'my brother had that type of cancer and he was dead within months' type comments.

Agree. It’s none of anyone else’s business what cancer he has and that suffered by the POW. They are getting the best care that’s unavailable on the nhs due to waiting times and medication not being used. Thats the part that interests me - the treatment they had/are having should be the same as everyone else. Their situations could improve care if this was done.

luckylavender · 20/12/2024 07:48

ekk100 · 20/12/2024 07:03

Prostate cancers can be extremely slow growing, if it's managed well people generally die 'with' prostate cancer, not 'of' it. I'm assuming it's something like that. Maybe a bit of ongoing radio/chemo therapy and regular checks.

It's not prostate cancer though is it? He said that at the start

Twitwootoo · 20/12/2024 07:48

Petrasings · 20/12/2024 07:23

‘Managed ‘ in cancer terms means a terminal diagnosis.

We have been through this three times with our family members, and it was used by all three consultants as a term.

No it doesn’t. It means it’s incurable. There’s a difference. Many cancers can be managed until someone dies of other causes

2025willbemytime · 20/12/2024 07:48

TaggieO · 20/12/2024 07:10

I thought it was prostate cancer? If you have to get cancer it’s tbe best one as extremely slow growing, and v responsive to hormonal treatments, but these do take longer than chemo.

I'm pretty sure it has been said that is isn't prostate cancer.

DogInATent · 20/12/2024 07:48

lolly792 · 20/12/2024 07:41

@EmotionalSupportCuttlefish why do you think you know what form of cancer Queen Elizabeth had?

Because Boris Johnson revealed it in his memoirs.

User14March · 20/12/2024 07:50

@TwigletsAndRadishes true, but if we take this article as a reliable source he disclosed he had cancer to be helpful & relatable to others. Without disclosing the type this arguably lacks the (any, true real ?) impact & power it might otherwise have had.

BezMills · 20/12/2024 07:50

People his age die with cancer rather than of cancer. One of the advantages of being hella old (no disrespect intended. but he hella old) is that things tend to progress slower due to lower activity, metabolism etc.