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Charles cancer update

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PrettyFlyforaMaiTai · 20/12/2024 06:34

Charles’ cancer treatment will continue into next year

”his treatment has been moving in a positive direction and as a managed condition the treatment cycle will continue into next year" according to palace sources.

I don’t mean to be a negative Nelly but this doesn’t seem as positive as they’re trying to make out.

news.sky.com/story/kings-cancer-treatment-will-continue-into-next-year-sky-news-understands-13276684

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lolly792 · 21/12/2024 10:28

Let's face it, any of us could claim to have heard something on the bbc once, which no one else on Mumsnet heard. But it takes a special brand of hubris to bang on about it having any relevance or significance. The fact is that there has never been an official announcement that the late Queen had cancer of any type.

devilspawn · 21/12/2024 11:26

ISeriouslyDoubtIt · 20/12/2024 09:06

No it wasn't! I'd be very interested to see which news article showed that( and I mean reputable such as BBC) , not idle gossip in Hello magazine for example.

You'll never see UK media reporting on it, they're banned from saying most things about the Royal family.

If you search "queen bone cancer" you'll see the results from the New York Post, Politico.eu, The Economic Times, CNN, Australian Broadcasting Corporation, CBS News etc.

I doubt that both Boris and Giles would say it if it wasn't true. It's a bit of a random thing to make up. Plus several genuine Australian media outlets were reporting on bone issues prior to all this.

Of course there's not going to be an official statement from the palace when the queen was so secretive about her health. Why do you think that suddenly the royals are much more open about their respective health issues now she's gone. They haven't all coincidentally all got sick with one thing or another for the first time in their lives, it's just now they're allowed to talk about it.

"Old age" isn't a cause of death in and of itself, there's something that actually happened to cause death, whether it's heart failure, blood clot, something else. It just sounds like what people want to hear.

lolly792 · 21/12/2024 11:35

Oh good heavens no of course Boris would never say something that isn't true Grin

Serenster · 21/12/2024 11:40

You'll never see UK media reporting on it, they're banned from saying most things about the Royal family.
If you search "queen bone cancer" you'll see the results from the New York Post, Politico.eu, The Economic Times, CNN, Australian Broadcasting Corporation, CBS News etc.

Unless you can point to a story published internationally definitively stating the Queen’s health condition, rather than speculating about it, then you’ve misunderstood the position.

UK papers aren’t “banned” from publishing things about the Royal Family. They are however bound by press publishing guidelines which mean they don’t publish speculation that cannot be proved, particularly when it relates to sensitive matters, like health (which is “special category personal data” under the GDPR laws for you, me, and everyone including members of the Royal Family).

Overseas publications aren’t bound by UK laws on this, obviously, and also probably more willing to take risks about what they’ll publish on the basis that it’s less likely they’ll be sued when they are not based in the UK. Less likely doesn’t mean never though - William and Kate successfully sued a French magazine for breach of privacy for publishing topless photos of Kate for example.

User14March · 21/12/2024 11:54

This is what Boris said re: late Queen, FWIW:

’I had known for a year or more that she had a form of bone cancer, and her doctors were worried that at any time she could enter a sharp decline’.

Magicisstillhere · 21/12/2024 12:58

Rhaidimiddim · 20/12/2024 23:51

I clearly heard a BBC presenter announce as fact something on that day that thereafter I have never heard again ( and appears to have been buried).
You didn't hear what @EmotionalSupportCuttlefish did. That is not proof that it wasn't broadcast, only that you didn't hear it being broadcast. That the OP can provide context for the memory, as in it being part of a social situation, underlines the veracity of her memory IMHO.

Oh well it must be true then 🙄

Princessfluffy · 21/12/2024 13:20

The Princess of Wales looks pretty great to me.
Haggard? Seriously?

Charles cancer update
doodleschnoodle · 21/12/2024 13:54

Princessfluffy · 21/12/2024 13:20

The Princess of Wales looks pretty great to me.
Haggard? Seriously?

I posted a very similar pic midway through this thread asking the 'haggard' posters to explain what they meant. None of them have returned to do so. Funny that.

PullTheBricksDown · 21/12/2024 13:57

If that's haggard, I'll take it! Nothing wrong with looking your age either.

Magicisstillhere · 21/12/2024 17:10

Princessfluffy · 21/12/2024 13:20

The Princess of Wales looks pretty great to me.
Haggard? Seriously?

She's absolutely beautiful and radiant. I can only presume the 'haggard' posters have issues 😕

boredashellbythiscrap · 21/12/2024 17:42

She doesn't look haggard at all and neither is she absolutely beautiful although beauty is in the eye of the beholder. She is an average looking woman with unlimited money at her disposal so is able to make the best of what she has been given.

Rhaidimiddim · 21/12/2024 18:48

Magicisstillhere · 21/12/2024 12:58

Oh well it must be true then 🙄

You are spectacularly missing the point.

My point is not whether I believe what I heard. My point is not whether what I heard is true or not.

The point is that, on that day, some things were actually said on air, and some of us remember hearing them. Some posters here were aggressively attacking another poster for making that point, and I was defending her ( and seem to have become their target myself now instead).

Magicisstillhere · 21/12/2024 19:21

boredashellbythiscrap · 21/12/2024 17:42

She doesn't look haggard at all and neither is she absolutely beautiful although beauty is in the eye of the beholder. She is an average looking woman with unlimited money at her disposal so is able to make the best of what she has been given.

Average 🫣 would love to see who you hang out with!

Magicisstillhere · 21/12/2024 19:23

Rhaidimiddim · 21/12/2024 18:48

You are spectacularly missing the point.

My point is not whether I believe what I heard. My point is not whether what I heard is true or not.

The point is that, on that day, some things were actually said on air, and some of us remember hearing them. Some posters here were aggressively attacking another poster for making that point, and I was defending her ( and seem to have become their target myself now instead).

A snippet of no consequence might have been said that day but I think most can say with pretty much 100% certainty that neither the BBC nor ITV made an announcement re the Queen having died from a certain cancer. No one, bar the poster plus you defending her think so

Rhaidimiddim · 21/12/2024 20:28

Magicisstillhere · 21/12/2024 19:23

A snippet of no consequence might have been said that day but I think most can say with pretty much 100% certainty that neither the BBC nor ITV made an announcement re the Queen having died from a certain cancer. No one, bar the poster plus you defending her think so

But that poster is pretty adamant that they did hear the announcement.

magicalmrmistoffelees · 21/12/2024 20:46

There was no announcement.

Magicisstillhere · 21/12/2024 20:59

Rhaidimiddim · 21/12/2024 20:28

But that poster is pretty adamant that they did hear the announcement.

That doesn't mean it happened though does it? Probably speculation she heard, there was no announcement on mainstream news outlets

Rhaidimiddim · 21/12/2024 21:23

Magicisstillhere · 21/12/2024 20:59

That doesn't mean it happened though does it? Probably speculation she heard, there was no announcement on mainstream news outlets

She sez it was on BBC or ITV she heard it.

Edited to add: I shouldn't have used the word "announcement" because that implies formal confirmation.

I'm going to leave this now - I was trying to defend an OP who was being personally attacked for reporting somerhing she clearly remembers.

magicalmrmistoffelees · 21/12/2024 21:26

Rhaidimiddim · 21/12/2024 21:23

She sez it was on BBC or ITV she heard it.

Edited to add: I shouldn't have used the word "announcement" because that implies formal confirmation.

I'm going to leave this now - I was trying to defend an OP who was being personally attacked for reporting somerhing she clearly remembers.

Edited

She can ‘sez’ what she wants, doesn’t make it true.

Magicisstillhere · 21/12/2024 21:42

magicalmrmistoffelees · 21/12/2024 21:26

She can ‘sez’ what she wants, doesn’t make it true.

😆

lolly792 · 21/12/2024 22:11

This is what the poster actually wrote when asked how they thought they knew what Queen Elizabeth died from:

Because it was announced on the news after her death and she had the same sort that ended my Mums's life. It was no longer a secret once she died.

She was obviously talking utter bollocks

ISeriouslyDoubtIt · 21/12/2024 22:30

Rhaidimiddim · 21/12/2024 21:23

She sez it was on BBC or ITV she heard it.

Edited to add: I shouldn't have used the word "announcement" because that implies formal confirmation.

I'm going to leave this now - I was trying to defend an OP who was being personally attacked for reporting somerhing she clearly remembers.

Edited

You do presumably realise that people can pretend and make things up on an anonymous forum?
Just because you think she genuinely remembers something doesn't make it true.

magicalmrmistoffelees · 21/12/2024 22:39

ISeriouslyDoubtIt · 21/12/2024 22:30

You do presumably realise that people can pretend and make things up on an anonymous forum?
Just because you think she genuinely remembers something doesn't make it true.

They can also just be wrong. She may have thought she heard an ‘announcement’, but she clearly didn’t. She may have heard some speculation, which she misinterpreted. The doubling down on the ‘announcement’ is just bizarre.

wigsonthegreenandhatsforthelifting · 21/12/2024 23:06

WalterdelaMare · 20/12/2024 19:06

How do you know he’s ’a lovely man and a gentle soul’? 🤢

From what I’ve seen he’s an overgrown brat.

Do share your superior knowledge.

I think you're talking shit but I don't know him personally probably any more than you do.

He mostly seems pretty affable in public!

wigsonthegreenandhatsforthelifting · 21/12/2024 23:08

boredashellbythiscrap · 21/12/2024 17:42

She doesn't look haggard at all and neither is she absolutely beautiful although beauty is in the eye of the beholder. She is an average looking woman with unlimited money at her disposal so is able to make the best of what she has been given.

Well beauty is in the eye of the beholder but I most certainly don't believe she is "average looking".

You need to go to Specsavers.

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