Anyone starting to feel sorry for them?

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No matter how preeningly narcissistic the couple may seem, surely even they must now have realised what the source of their woes is? The fact is: people were only interested in hearing what Harry and Meghan had to say when they were dishing the dirt on the royal family.Hence, in January last year, the record-breakingly vast sales of Harrys memoir Spare. with all its eye-popping claims about his brother, father and stepmother. But every time he, and Meghan, start talking about any other topic – be it sport, jam or social justice – the world turns off. No one cares. Now that the Sussexes have finished flogging all the family secrets, they’ve got nothing that anyone wants.

There is part of me that does feelsorry for them too. I mean 2024 has been a disaster, off the back of 2023 which was another disaster. It’s not going to get any better. Reap what you sow, so we knew it was coming their way but it’s all a bit sad and pathetic now. The faux tours, cards from ‘the office of’, as time goes on, the more pathetic that will look because they have lost all connection to the Royals

This must be their year of reckoning. He won’t win his cases, they will lose Netflix, the brand will face further set backs, they realise that their kids will never have a royal Christmas at Sandringham or summer at Balmoral, ever. In fact they are unlikely to ever meet the King again.

Its all came off the rails. We all knew it would happen. Many could even see the disaster impending from the engagement announcement. But it’s still hard to watch and that’s what makes me feel a bit sorry for them.

Prepared to be flamed! 😬

I don't agree with that at all.

Can you expand on what you don't agree with?

The RF also have independent means.

Can you expand on these?

Oh and note, Harry chose the leave the RL family. He then chose to say that he would not return.

He's happily skimming the UK taxpayer on various fronts though.

Just like the rest.

Who is?

And precisely why do you think you need to police it?

Does it fulfil you to spend each and every day writing nasty comments on an online forum to anonymous posters?

It's way more peculiar to sit there picking holes in posts you clearly disdain!!

Harry is well funded by the British Royal Family and always will be.

There are the royal inheritances that were sensibly invested for him. (And where did that 'royal' 'private' money come from?? It comes from people and the land, rinsed through the UK banking system. Plus, I went down a rabbit hole once and even the Spencer money is connected to profits the slave trade.)

Harry also has royal Trust funds. Nice. Even Beatrice and Eugenie have significant royal trust funds. Harry's didn't disappear when he went to the US.

And there's the money and funding he's still screwing out of the taxpayers of the UK, New York and god knows where else for his 'security needs'.

And god only knows what King 'doesn't like confrontation' Charles is sending him in terms of funding on the QT. Charles may have formally ended the Duchy arrangement in 2020, but the King has a fucktonne of the mystical 'royal' 'private' money that he's accumulated over the long decades of his life as heir and monarch. He may be funnelling it through the grandchildren, i.e. significant lifestyle money, school fees etc. or through another trust.

Harry will never be honest about this, and no interviewer will ever probe it properly because of how salty Harry gets.

So no, I don't feel sorry for him in the slightest.

Sorry I don't really follow Meghan and Harry. How has 2024 been a disaster for them? Are they not keeping a low profile?

From memory, they have done a number of somewhat controversial 'tours' and public appearances, and were Executive Producers (using the prince & royal dukedom titles) of a Netflix documentary on Polo that has recently been released to poor reviews in the Guardian, Telegraph, etc. Meghan started her company 'American Riviera Orchard' that has trademark issues apparently and has publicly invested in at least one business that allegedly exploits Rwandan women workers.

There's probably more.

I guess that's what happens when you have a massive ego and entitlement. You think you are cleverer and more talented than you actually are.
In Meghans case there's a different set of psychological factors at play because she's from the harder side of the tracks but it's nonetheless destructive.

One post from me! Hardly sitting there picking holes, I am not one of those all over these threads like a rash!

Merry Christmas all ! May your day be filled with love and happiness, tasty treats and festive fun 🥳⛄🎁🎅🎄

I would say that The HollyWood Reporter investigation published in Sept where 12 ex and current exployees exposed MM as a bully must have been a knock.....

@WinterCrow "
"From memory, they have done a number of somewhat controversial 'tours"

Isn't that what the RF does?🤣

I do think it's very telling that supporters of Harry and Meghan always point to their wealth, children and vast mansion in a sunny climate as the chief reasons why they are supposedly happy and content.

Wealth and riches mean nothing if you're not right in your own mind and soul, and at peace with your family and friends. If you don't have that peace, you can be as rich as you want, you'll still be unhappy.

H&M are NC with their families; they've insulted their families in public and lied about them; they're depriving their children of grandparents. Frustration and self-pity seems to be Harry's dominant mode in interviews.

I do feel sorry for them in that sense because, at this time f year especially, I'm reminded that 18 bedroom mansions count for very little if you're not right with yourself and your family. And I think that anyone who thinks that wealth and sunshine can adequately compensate for spiritual alienation, has a very hollow and quite sad idea of what happiness means.

So very true.

The RF does actual tours at the behest of the govt.

And then, when he sniffed an opening after the two cancer diagnoses, he magnanimously offered to step up and help.

He would be back in in a heartbeat if he were given the chance.

Everyone knows the longer he is away from the RF the less he is worth. His knowledge is less current and old gripes about sibling squabbles and jealousy just make look petty. He cannot be trusted not to commercialise any ‘return’ in the most damaging way possible. He is going to court over tabloid journalism but has become little more than a tabloid journalist himself.

Yes, he's been feeding shit on his family to US tabloids and various shit publications like the worst of the paps. He makes stuff up in his head as well.

The US doesn't have tabloids, though.
And the lovely couple pledged not to have anything to do with tabloids a long time ago.

its funny how non supporters of Harry and Meghan always point out that their have been deprived of their grandparents and so on.

strange how many people on mn are nc with their parents or siblings.
yet they are not told that they are depriving their children.

During his most recent interview at The New York Times DealBook summit - he said that the purpose of the security court case was to support reconcilation. Think thats the first time I've heard him use that word. So I suspect he is aiming and hoping for that.

Maybe he has now moved on from expressing his need for an apology from his family as a requirement before he forgives them and they can reconcile.

Most estrangments last an average of 7 years.

How do you know who's over anything like a rash??

Bit of an exaggeration there, non supporters don’t “always” point this out, they occasionally do. And people who declare themselves to be nc with family on MN usually explain why, and they do get told if it doesn’t seem for good reason.

I think you’re reaching,@Samcro but for the life of me I can’t understand why.

Because I can read!?

Anyway, Merry Christmas Everyone! 🧑‍🎄🧑‍🎄🎄🎄🍾🍾

Hilarious 🙄All the more so that Sussex Squad devotees believe the children aren't missing out! Of course they are. It's patently obvious except to those who simply refuse to see!

I rather think there's more NC families represented here than IRL. People just don't come on to state that they are in contact with their families.

Are those children "deprived" of a grandparental relationship? Yes, they are, absolutely. I only ever knew one granny - the rest had all died before I was born or when I was too young to remember. I missed out, definitely. Their aunts, their uncles, their cousins, all of the family circle - just not in their lives at all.

However, are those children in NC families "deprived" of a particular grandparent or grandparents in their lives, because they behave in a toxic, narcissistic manner? Perhaps not. Perhaps heir parents make a judgement call and opt for damage limitation. They are missing out on the family relationships and the love they should have had. Anyone who says any different is delusional.

I haven't seen it suggested anywhere, not even by Harry, that his father is toxic, or a narcissist. In fact from images we've seen he comes across as a fond grandparent to the grandchildren he does see. The RF live an unimaginable life, and Archie and Lili are completely divorced from that. Missing out on all the big family gatherings. I had lovely memories of such gatherings that I will have for the rest of my life. They don't have any of that. They have Doria. Full stop.

Please don't try to defend the indefensible. Harry caused them all to become estranged because he didn't get his own way. That's the bottom line.

No need for the faux greetings.

You read all you want my dear but you have no idea who is posting.