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The royal family

Anyone starting to feel sorry for them?

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Aspargar · 19/12/2024 12:32

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No matter how preeningly narcissistic the couple may seem, surely even they must now have realised what the source of their woes is? The fact is: people were only interested in hearing what Harry and Meghan had to say when they were dishing the dirt on the royal family.Hence, in January last year, the record-breakingly vast sales of Harrys memoir Spare. with all its eye-popping claims about his brother, father and stepmother. But every time he, and Meghan, start talking about any other topic – be it sport, jam or social justice – the world turns off. No one cares. Now that the Sussexes have finished flogging all the family secrets, they’ve got nothing that anyone wants.

There is part of me that does feelsorry for them too. I mean 2024 has been a disaster, off the back of 2023 which was another disaster. It’s not going to get any better. Reap what you sow, so we knew it was coming their way but it’s all a bit sad and pathetic now. The faux tours, cards from ‘the office of’, as time goes on, the more pathetic that will look because they have lost all connection to the Royals

This must be their year of reckoning. He won’t win his cases, they will lose Netflix, the brand will face further set backs, they realise that their kids will never have a royal Christmas at Sandringham or summer at Balmoral, ever. In fact they are unlikely to ever meet the King again.

Its all came off the rails. We all knew it would happen. Many could even see the disaster impending from the engagement announcement. But it’s still hard to watch and that’s what makes me feel a bit sorry for them.

Prepared to be flamed! 😬

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CurlewKate · 24/12/2024 14:20

@wigsonthegreenandhatsforthelifting "They don't have any of that. They have Doria. Full stop."

As far as we know. They may have a ton of "found family" around them. Or not. We just don't know.

Ohpleeeease · 24/12/2024 14:56

I think we do know though. Family on Doria’s side expressed disappointment that they weren’t invited to the wedding. If they were in contact now you can be damn sure we’d know about it.

And “found family” is a meaningless concept. People you choose to have in your life to whom you’re not related are called friends. Most of us have those as well as our actual family with whom we share a biological and historical connection. (Family through adoption is of course the obvious exception.)

LaMarschallin · 24/12/2024 15:22

And “found family” is a meaningless concept. People you choose to have in your life to whom you’re not related are called friends.

This.
"Found family" sounds a bit sad and desperate - what's wrong with having friends?

WinterCrow · 24/12/2024 16:06

TriptoTipp · 24/12/2024 13:04

During his most recent interview at The New York Times DealBook summit - he said that the purpose of the security court case was to support reconcilation. Think thats the first time I've heard him use that word. So I suspect he is aiming and hoping for that.

Maybe he has now moved on from expressing his need for an apology from his family as a requirement before he forgives them and they can reconcile.

Most estrangments last an average of 7 years.

He used the word 'accountability' a couple of times as well. He's coming across as terribly self-absorbed and faux-martyrish, and much more so this past couple years, like his psyche is fracturing.

MrsLeonFarrell · 24/12/2024 16:14

Did he explain how the court case supports reconciliation?

WarmingClothesontheRadiator · 24/12/2024 16:20

MrsLeonFarrell · 24/12/2024 16:14

Did he explain how the court case supports reconciliation?

This. It makes it a lot more difficult for Charles to have anything to do with him as he needs to avoid being caught up in the case in any way.

Mylovelygreendress · 24/12/2024 16:39

When is the next court entertainment ?

Puzzledandpissedoff · 24/12/2024 17:13

There's not long to wait, @Mylovelygreendress - according to the BBC the next case (against the Sun) is due to be heard in January:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cvglrv7q945o#:~:text=Both%20cases%20are%20expected%20to,activity%20happened%20at%20The%20Sun.

CurlewKate · 24/12/2024 18:30

I have no idea what family relationships the Sussex children have! And there's nothing wrong with found family. I have loads of friends and family. But we also have friends who are more important to my children than others. Uncle and aunt equivalents. What's wrong with that?

Bri5 · 24/12/2024 18:36

LaMarschallin · 24/12/2024 15:22

And “found family” is a meaningless concept. People you choose to have in your life to whom you’re not related are called friends.

This.
"Found family" sounds a bit sad and desperate - what's wrong with having friends?

Lots of people build new/chosen families for many reasons. They’re people they consider more then “friends” similar to a family but not “blood” relatives. It’s a wonderful option for people with difficult or abusive families.

Bachboo · 24/12/2024 18:56

LaMarschallin · 24/12/2024 15:22

And “found family” is a meaningless concept. People you choose to have in your life to whom you’re not related are called friends.

This.
"Found family" sounds a bit sad and desperate - what's wrong with having friends?

It’s not woke enough

Mylovelygreendress · 24/12/2024 19:50

Found family !? What new crap is this 🤦‍♀️

TriptoTipp · 24/12/2024 20:01

MrsLeonFarrell · 24/12/2024 16:14

Did he explain how the court case supports reconciliation?

No he didn't and it was quite a jarring word as an explanation as to why he was pursuing the security court case.

Unless he has painted his own thoughts into a corner in that he needs this version of IPP security ie 24/7,global, for life for each member of his family in order to travel to the UK with his wife and DCs to rebuild his relationship with his family. But this doesnt make sense as whilst in the UK he has the most security on tap from The Met and within Royal grounds.

He also said in the same interview that he would not be able to have the freedom to do what he does with his DCs now in the US if he was in the UK.

CurlewKate · 24/12/2024 20:03

@Mylovelygreendress "Found family !? What new crap is this"
The last couple of posts explains.

MrsLeonFarrell · 24/12/2024 20:16

I quite like the phrase found family. Not everyone is lucky enough to have a close, healthy "traditional" blood family unit. How lovely to spread the idea that family doesn't have to be blood, it can be different and still provide that acceptance and support we all want from our families.

wigsonthegreenandhatsforthelifting · 24/12/2024 20:39

CurlewKate · 24/12/2024 14:20

@wigsonthegreenandhatsforthelifting "They don't have any of that. They have Doria. Full stop."

As far as we know. They may have a ton of "found family" around them. Or not. We just don't know.

In the most faux environment they could possibly live in?

Do me a favour!!

How many of their "found family" have they also fallen out with?

Hilarious!

CurlewKate · 24/12/2024 21:45

@wigsonthegreenandhatsforthelifting "
How many of their "found family" have they also fallen out with?"

I have no idea. Maybe loads. Maybe none. Neither you nor I have the remotest idea.

CandlesOrangesRedribbon · 24/12/2024 22:23

I think this is a classic illustration of how money can't buy happiness.

Harry has had the most awful awful childhood and that was well before the tragic brutal death of his mum

Oh diddums Charles, Harry said mean things about your darling camilla?
Well you said mean things about your daddy also and in a book.

Charles should be doing all.... He can to make it up to Harry.

Baital · 24/12/2024 22:49

Harry has had some difficult things to deal with. He has also had a huge level of support and privilege to come to terms with those difficulties.

His parents relationship broke down. Sadly that isn't uncommon. His father has had one relationship since. His mother had a number before her early death.

That has all played out publicly. The other side of the coin is that he has never had to deal with the day to day pressures of earning a living, worrying about bills etc.

There are sadly all too many children having to overcome far more than he has had to face. And don't have the luxury of getting millions for a sob story.

Mylovelygreendress · 24/12/2024 22:59

CandlesOrangesRedribbon · 24/12/2024 22:23

I think this is a classic illustration of how money can't buy happiness.

Harry has had the most awful awful childhood and that was well before the tragic brutal death of his mum

Oh diddums Charles, Harry said mean things about your darling camilla?
Well you said mean things about your daddy also and in a book.

Charles should be doing all.... He can to make it up to Harry.

The same “ awful awful childhood” that William had and yet is a stable family man and future King . I don’t recall William bleating on TV and in print about how awful things were ?
What was so awful ? A smaller bedroom ? 2 sausages rather than 3?

CandlesOrangesRedribbon · 24/12/2024 23:06

When Diana was alive she fretted over the fuss William had being the heir to the throne.

There was an inequality right from when they were tiny.
Then William older when the impact hit him had a solid group of friend around him and soon after met Kate. Kate has a solid strong family with both parents still together a brother and sister. William hugely appreciated and benefited from this united family unit.
Harry hasn't had any of that, at all.

Baital · 24/12/2024 23:13

And Harry hasn't had a solid group of friends? Because he seemed to have. And then Meghan didn't get on with them, and he chose Meghan. His choice. And Meghan doesn't come with a united family unit. Again, his choice. It wasn't inflicted on him.

WinterCrow · 24/12/2024 23:35

Harry said his family were the family Meghan never had, didn’t he? At the time of the engagement interview I think.

wigsonthegreenandhatsforthelifting · 25/12/2024 00:07

CurlewKate · 24/12/2024 21:45

@wigsonthegreenandhatsforthelifting "
How many of their "found family" have they also fallen out with?"

I have no idea. Maybe loads. Maybe none. Neither you nor I have the remotest idea.

Oh I think there's been enough people making it clear! Lizzie Cundy, the Beckhams, to name a couple. The cast of Suits. Some of Harry's long-term friends. It's Christmas Eve, CBA thinking of any more but they are out there!

wigsonthegreenandhatsforthelifting · 25/12/2024 00:10

CandlesOrangesRedribbon · 24/12/2024 22:23

I think this is a classic illustration of how money can't buy happiness.

Harry has had the most awful awful childhood and that was well before the tragic brutal death of his mum

Oh diddums Charles, Harry said mean things about your darling camilla?
Well you said mean things about your daddy also and in a book.

Charles should be doing all.... He can to make it up to Harry.

OMG such bullshit! Harry had one of the most privileged childhoods known to man! Sure his parents didn't get on - how many children's parents don't get on?! - and he was sent to boarding school which probably shielded him from a lot of it.

William had the same childhood. It's pretty well established that Diana used the young boy as her confidant in a way she didn't with Harry. So who had the tougher childhood, and who has grown up to be the more mature, balanced man?

There's no way Charles should crawl up Harry's entitled little hole!

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