Their future together is an open secret in the USA

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Anyone know what the open secret is?
I don't have access to the article, so don't know what it is or what it's based on. But I'd like to know.
Has anyone read this?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/royals/article-14199579/Harry-Meghan-future-open-secret-America-MAUREEN-CALLAHAN.html

He'll get what Princess Margaret got - a private funeral and interment at St George's Chapel, Windsor. Or perhaps Frogmore.

Diana receiving a ceremonial funeral was unprecedented and a one-off.

State funerals are reserved for Heads of State (so both Charles and Wlliam, when he is King, will get one); and for exceptional statesmen - I think they've all been men - such as Churchill and these latter state funerals require a bill to go through parliament. (It is said that Thatcher asked for a ceremonial funeral rather than a state funeral to avoid parliamentary debate about her legacy.)

According to Harry he doesn't want private security like he has in the US, because in the UK private security are not legally allowed to carry arms. That is the only kind of security King Charles could pay for out of his personal funds and Harry doesn't accept that level of security is sufficient for him and his family in the UK. I would not be surprised at all to learn KC is already contributing privately to Harrys personal private security.

On top of wanting armed security, Harry also wants access to security intelligence, which is also not available on a paying basis.

He is given full blown security in the UK with certain conditions when and if it is warranted. He wants more than that, KC can't help with that, it is a government decision.

@smilesy You might be right that there are no or few threats but I think if I were him, I would feel the need for 24/7 security. I've said up thread that I think he is higher risk than Edward and Anne (William's only sibling and Diana's high profile) even if we ignore his own foolishness regarding increasing the risk from terrorists. I'm happy to agree to disagree!

Sorry if I've appeared repetitive on this thread; I felt like I hadn't explained myself very clearly. This all started because we were discussing how they are going to manage financially in the future (Harry should be planning for living for another 40+ years) and security is obviously a massive part of that.

This all started because we were discussing how they are going to manage financially in the future

I would say, they're not managing.

They are absolutely hemorrhaging money - many, many millions a year - and the sources of income have dried up now.

It's how a lot of 'Hollywood celebs' go bankrupt, or die owing $500 million dollars. Outgoings for lifestyle, staff, security, entourage, expense accounts, houses & property, 1st class travel, etc far outstrip incomings.

Harry is thick but venal. He's probably already threatened Pa with 'being reduced to Uncle Andrew's way of life' if he's not sufficiently bankrolled - but where does it all stop? $10 million a year? $30 million? More? Many mild-mannered republicans like me hold the view that the monarch's 'private money' has public origins i.e. it once belonged to others, and requires public oversight.

@Thedom

Yes, I'm aware of the UK court case and what can or can't be paid for in the UK. I wasn't thinking of that because Harry spends almost no time here. I was just thinking that if I were Charles, I'd make a small payment to him each year to help with their security costs in the USA (but Harry could do what he wanted with the money). Just to recognise the 'in-built' security risk he faces because of who he was when he was born.

I’m afraid that approach could feed into Harry’s paranoia about his security and concrete his feelings that he is ‘owed’. It would spiral his thoughts further I think

I honestly believe Charles is still helping fund them, as I said, I wouldn't be surprised if he was covering their security costs or at least contributing to it. Harry will never disclose that, neither will Charles.

@WinterCrow Yes, they might not be managing. Harry's inheritance from Diana is often rumoured to be worth about £20 - £30 million. An unknown amount from QEQM (but she had loads of other great-grandchildren and family members).

We know the media figures regarding Spotify and Netflix (which might not be accurate). But let's say that the income from those was approximately a third of what it was quoted to be (by the time you take into account production costs, the deal ending early, lack of content, etc) that would put Spotify on about $6m and Netflix at $30m. Spare was thought to be worth about $20m dollars to Harry. All of this adds up to about £60m.

Maybe that could last 10 - 15 years on their current lifestyle.

All of this could be completely inaccurate of course! I worked from memory to remember the media figures and didn't do a proper currency conversion - it's all very rough anyway.

@Thedom Yes, maybe he is.

@Aspargar You could be right. Maybe he would phase it as pocket money or something!

Practically? It’s practical to not waste money on protection. He can pay his own when abroad. He gets free protection when he’s here.
Where does morality come into it?

The monarch gets a state funeral, the consort gets a royal ceremonial funeral.

Diana, even though after her divorce would never have become Queen consort, still got that level of funeral. And I think it’s what I’d expect if a PoW died.

But beyond those, it would be a ceremonial funeral probably at Windsor at St George’s, or some other royal residence the deceased had a particular affinity to.

I would have expected the Daily Mail to be more supportive of someone who once dressed up as a Nazi. Given their historic sympathies.

I do have a sense of sadness that the Duke of Sussex has got to the position he is in now. I still think he could have been a champion of the military and especially veterans.

They must be burning through money at a rate of knots. Security, household staff, gardeners, nannies, PR agencies, office staff..... let alone the property maintenance in California. Then add on the cost of all the awards they buy... trips abroad to bolster their egos. Private jet flights. Private schools for the children.

Charles has to be funding them, it would be unnatural for him not to but the sad part is that I don't think Harry will be remotely grateful, he just demands and expects it. It will be interesting when William becomes King..... I think Henry will be having the biggest tantrum to date.

We can only be thankful for the fact that he is the Spare and not the Heir.

I agree they are burning through the cash, not to mention the legal case against the sun, where because he refused a settlement, he will have to pay all costs regardless of outcome. He will also have to pay all costs of the security case against the government after the appeal. This will cost him millions in just these two cases. The man is a buffoon

But I don’t think Charles is funding him in any way. I think he’s been cut completely.

I can’t see how they can continue to live a billionaire lifestyle on a bank balance of 10s of millions. They are going to have to spectacularly tighten their belts if they are to keep that home of theirs. To be honest, they should probably sell and get a house worth £3/4 million, less grounds- so less need for gardeners and security to patrol, cleaners, maintenance etc. That way they can keep the bulk of their wealth. Otherwise it will all be gone in 10 years.

I agree that The King isn’t funding him . It has been reported several times that he doesn’t take Harry’s phone calls and when Harry flew over to see him after his cancer announcement, he saw his father for less than half an hour.
I have no idea if there’s any truth in the rumour that Archie and Lili are to be homeschooled for security reasons.

It was interesting to see that coming back from Tyler Perry's party a lot more famous and acclaimed people than they managed to drive back to their houses without huge amounts of security.

I do think Harry is over the top with wanting 24 / 7 security from Ravec His Aunty Anne doesn't get it and in my opinion she is the best Queen we never had. & as others have sad - security is either for King and direct heir or for others when carrying out Royal duties. Harry is neither but got used to his privelige.

Ah I wish them well and their family but they have made a choice .

Biggest risk to Harold's security is dog bowls