Their future together is an open secret in the USA

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Anyone know what the open secret is?
I don't have access to the article, so don't know what it is or what it's based on. But I'd like to know.
Has anyone read this?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/royals/article-14199579/Harry-Meghan-future-open-secret-America-MAUREEN-CALLAHAN.html

RAVEC continually assess Harry's risk. He would be given security, even in America by the Secret Service if his threat level was high enough.

I'm not saying he isn't at risk, but I personally don't believe it's as high as he believes it is. He is probably at the same level of risk as any mid level celeb in the US.

IF (and I'm in no way suggesting this could, should or would happen) Harry was killed / assassinated OR if he dies aged 99 of "old age", will he be "eligible" for a state funeral in the UK? I can't remember the arrangements for Princess Margaret and thankfully we still have Anne and Edward with us.

The ‘open secret’ that their stateside careers, namely producing, is over, feels correct.
I have a gut feeling, not one based on anything in particular, that there has been a fundamental shift in their direction.
Netflix dangled the $100 million contract to get the Megxit story. They got that years ago, there’s nothing else that they want.
All other tv shows have failed. We’ve not heard anything about the film.

One thing that I’ve been thinking about is the cooking show. There were pictures in the Daily Mail, overhead pics of the home they were filming at. There was also pics of her in a Beverly Hills park. The Daily Mail seen the paperwork that stated they were filming for six weeks. But if there was filming for 6 weeks, wouldnt we have seen further shots of the home? It has an avacado and lemon orchard. It is literally an An American Rivera Orchard, so surely she would be using that? Yet there’s no long range photos of her filming in the grounds of the house. There’s only pictures from one day. Over six weeks, they only got pictures from one day with all the cars and crew set up outside? That doesn’t feel right.

The very fact that we know very little detail about the show. Never mind a date for release, makes me thing that a full series wasn’t recorded. That what was recorded and in the can, was enough for a pilot episode. That Netflix may not have decided to press ahead based upon that pilot episode. The six week timeline that the Daily Mail uncovered, could be to allow for any retakes etc. It’s not necessarily a whole series already filmed. I feel there would have been leaks otherwise. There was about POLO. We heard weeks before the release that Netflix wasn’t happy at how little Harry n Meghan were in it- that turned out to be true. They only featured briefly in one episode. So where are the leaks of celeb guests etc.

This is why it feels like it is end of their Hollywood career. Nothing feels positive around the Netflix deal, there’s a sense of doom surrounding it.

I doubt if he would have a State Funeral, more likely a ceremonial one like the late Queen Mother.
I seem to recall that Princess Margaret had a private funeral and cremation with her ashes interred with her father .

Netflix dangled the $100 million contract to get the Megxit story. They got that years ago, there’s nothing else that they want

I'm not sure what the audience would be for any future television projects. They're just not all that interesting, are they? Two people approaching middle age who aren't particularly talented, accomplished or relevant. It doesn't even seem like they're well-connected so it's not as if they could attract bigger names to any of their projects.

I don't know what the future holds for these two, but I think they've gone as far as they can trading off their name recognition. Time to move in a different direction.

Forgot to add, she filmed in a florist too. So thats 1) one day at the ‘cooking’ home we’ve seen but it could have been 2/3 days. 2) filming for one day at a florist and 3) pictures of her being filmed in a BH park one day.

That’s not a lot of evidence to suggest she’s filmed a whole series for a lifestyle, entertaining, cooking show. It sounds like enough for one episode.

Surely any funeral would be in the US? He's made it his home and I can't imagine his wife would want a memorial in the UK.

I live 3&1/2 hours away from Meghan and Harry.
I never hear anything about them.
That is, until the Fail or some other rag starts talking about them and then somebody on Mumsnet or X or Quora starts in.
It seems like nobody will ever get tired of raking them over the coals.
I’m bored with that.

Don't think many folk are that interested in them anymore. But in addition to the helpful @FeegleFrenzy post re the 12ft site, Archive.ph and removepaywall.com are also useful if you occasionally want a peek behind a paywall.

Not sure whether by 'nobody' you mean nobody at all or nobody of significance? Suspect the latter, as its obviously of sufficient interest to inspire online discussion. But even then, nah. Not while daddy dearest is on the throne.

You can indeed, but it won't make your claim that nobody cares either relevant to the post you're quoting or correct. I'm not talking about what's deserved, my interest is in practicalities not anyone's moral judgement. It's strange how many people seem unable to separate the two.

@CathyorClaire I thought it was a random PR person who said that if he was advising the RF he would wargame scenarios based on possible revelations- not that the RF had confirmed they had done this. Although I’d be intrigued by the wargaming options for ‘borrowing lipgloss’!

I don’t like them so I don’t click on any article they are in - because the public reading their articles is what feeds the press’ interest in them.

It was a reputation/crisis management expert who said it but IMO it's pretty believable.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1706713/royal-family-prince-harry-meghan-markle-documentary-netflix-dxus

Would never surprise me to find experts were working overtime right now in respect of the latest Andrew scandal.

If there was a credible threat to Harry’s security, he would receive security as pp have said. I’m sure that the Security services are aware of “who” he is and have made judgements on whether he needs security according to any specific and current threats. I’m sure they have no wish for anything to happen to him and have thought of all possible scenarios. The fact that he is the King’s son does not necessarily make him a security risk which is what I think you feel he is. And the fact that he has removed himself from the safety of the Royal palaces was his decision. As pp have also said, his security would have been downgraded over time anyway in line with others further away from the throne. It is not really practicable for security to be provided for him whilst he lives in another country, and I’m not sure why anyone should have to pay for his decision apart from himself. He wants to have his cake and eat it basically

There is a morbid fascination in watching two people who had so much make one bad decision after another.

Leaving just before Covid hit was unfortunate timing of course and didn't help but everything else they have decided seems like choosing the worst option of the many they had. I suspect though their options are more limited now.

I hope they are able to live the private and happy life they wanted at some point.

Possibly but remember how hung up on status they are . I can imagine Harry wanting the full works . Just like William will have.

Anyway , hopefully not for a long time .

Anne and Edward didn’t have full time security while their mother was Queen . Not sure about Andrew.

@JobMatch3000 in the UK state funerals are reserved for the monarch, though very occasional exceptions are madee, as with Winston Churchill

The rest get "ceremonial funerals" if they're close enough and private ones if they're not, and Mylovelygreendress was correct that this is what happened for Margaret, who was then taken to Slough Crematorium with her ashes placed in the King George VI's Memorial Chapel

Only the monarch gets a state funeral. Very occasionally someone like Churchill is offered one.

The Queen Mother had a ceremonial funeral and her funeral plans are what Diana’s was based on, but her funeral was out of the ordinary because of the public feeling at the time (and the unexpectedness of her death).

Princess Margaret’s funeral was at St George’s. Same with the Duke’s of Kent and Gloucester, and later their wives Princess Marina and Princess Alice.

if anything happened to Harry I think there would likely be the offer of family funeral at St George’s and plot at Frogmore. Same as others have been offered, but nothing like the ceremonial funeral had by QEQM

Harry has alway been disparaging about the UK, in a 2008 interview from Afghanistan, he said "I don't want to sit around at Windsor because I just genuinely don't like England that much" Almost 20 years later he is still disparaging about the British public and threw his own facility into the mix for good measure.

He finally managed to get away, yet is trying to get the British public, who he really can't stand, to cough up for his multimillion pound security.

Yes, I'm aware of the way Harry has long talked about the UK and I believe he has damaged the UK's global standing. I agree that taxpayer funded security is part of an unholy pact that we have with the royal family, they do their bit and we do our bit. And he's chosen not to do his bit.

What I was saying earlier was that if I was his father, I'd feel that some of the risk is simply because he was born as my son and I'd want to use my personal funds to at least help cover just a very little of the security costs. My thinking would go: he could have lived quietly on a royal estate and done everything possible to minimise the risks to himself but might still have needed to hire security when off the estate (locally, not gallivanting round the globe). Whatever that would cost (ballpark), I'd cover that if I were his father, with personal funds. It is a hypothetical scenario so it wouldn't be exact but it'd be something. And it wouldn't have been much (by their standards/budgets) - probably not much more than the cost of a few handbags and bits of jewellery!

To read the article just got to ‘show reader’

I understand that but you are projecting the fact that you personally feel he is unsafe, when it’s unlikely that he actually is, given that his security risk will discreetly be kept under observation by our security services. I’m not sure why you think he would have to “hire security” when off the royal estate. If he was deemed to be under threat, he would get it just as he would if he came over here at the moment. To repeat, if he had remained a working royal, his security would have been downgraded over time anyway so he would only have received security when on the firms time as it were. Anne and Edward did not get the full security package when their mother was alive, so neither would Harry. He is not that important apart from in his own head