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Honeycrisp · 18/12/2024 18:20

I do wonder what they'll do next. Neither the polo nor the cookery shows seem like the sort of things that'll do huge numbers. Personally I'd be pruning my expenses and living as quietly as I could on what they've already got. Sure it's enough to be very comfortable!

BigWillyLittleTodger · 18/12/2024 18:35

Their outgoings must be huge, not sure how long mummy’s millions will last, those 14 bathrooms won’t clean themselves, if they hadn’t bought such a ridiculous house they could have lived very comfortably but only a faux McMansion would do. I wonder how much they have to spend each year on property taxes, utilities, security staff, housekeepers, groundskeepers, drivers etc. must be eye watering and must have been a huge shock to Harry when most of the above wouldn’t have cost him a penny if they had stayed in the RF at Frogmore.

Patienceinshortsupply · 18/12/2024 18:40

If you have a VPN, set it to a US location and you can read the Mail plus articles without paying.

The gist of it is that America is bored with them. And that's the kiss of death for their brand.

WinterCrow · 18/12/2024 18:44

You can also

  • refresh the page and click the 'X' that sits beneath the circualar refresh arrow really quickly (which is what I did)
  • use airplane mode
  • drop the URL into archive.ph

to read for free

Puzzledandpissedoff · 18/12/2024 19:02

The entertainment industry has chewed them up, sucked up all the juice and is now spitting them out

Unfortunately that's what was always likely to happen, @cheezncrackers - unless of course they had something to contribute beyond trashng the family and that turned out not to be the case

It's a shame, but it's all mostly of their own doing so they'll just have to do the best with it they can

FeegleFrenzy · 18/12/2024 19:04

WellMaybe · 18/12/2024 14:40

Everyone in America is bored of them. Oprah didn’t invite them to her birthday party.

For some reason these two sentences made me laugh.

Can you imagine the 'AIBU to be disappointed that cliquish Oprah's excluding us from an event she always invited us to?'

Made me laugh too. Didn’t she go to their wedding? And she doesn’t even invite them to a party. Used for the interview and dropped

Spirallingdownwards · 18/12/2024 19:10

FeegleFrenzy · 18/12/2024 13:49

Doesn’t seem to say much about their relationship. Netflix is apparently sick of them. Everyone in America is bored of them. Oprah didn’t invite them to her birthday party. All their projects are bombing.

No they aren't and no they are not. How sad that you give this twaddle any headspace at all.

BeccaS34 · 18/12/2024 19:13

This just looks like clickbait

They have squandered a ton of goodwill and none of their projects have had good quality control

I doubt they will continue to get opportunities at a high level in the entertainment industry

Im surprised they haven’t moved somewhere less expensive than SoCal

CulturalNomad · 18/12/2024 19:22

The journalist though seems to be saying the Americams are bored of them and don't even follow them for gossip or 'hate watching.'

I'm in the US and there is very little coverage of H & M. What little there is would be of the supermarket tabloid variety (and even then it wouldn't rate a cover story).

After the initial flurry of coverage when they left the UK it all fizzled out pretty quickly.

Not2identifying · 18/12/2024 20:11

They've painted themselves into a corner. British tabloids and social media would delight in them downsizing to save money so I suspect it would feel like a humiliation. Harry should have enough money to pay off his mortgage but they're not going to be able to afford security for, what, all four of them for 40 - 80 years. He may feel the risk to A & L will reduce once they are established adults which would reduce that range but I think he'll always feel the need for his own security. I would if I were him. Because of his very high public profile and his army service ( and, now, his blabber mouth).

Overall I'm critical of many of the decisions H & M have made but I do feel a bit sorry for him on this. If I were Charles, I'd give him the equivalent cost of the additional security they would have needed had they lived quietly at Frogmore, if they hadn't courted controversy or increased the terrorist risk angle (talking about his kill numbers, etc).

By additional cost, I mean, if they were living quietly on the secure Windsor estate, that by itself wouldn't incur a cost. But they'd need security for when they left the estate (I'm thinking of them staying locally not gallivanting round the world). I think that cost should be met by Charles from his private funds. Or, again, that's what I'd do if I were Charles.

Jewell25 · 18/12/2024 20:14

They’re both awful people, but the absolute mess they’re making of their new life & split from the Royal Family is very entertaining.

Honeycrisp · 18/12/2024 20:17

Agree Harry's always going to need a lot of security. Even if he'd used a modicum of sense and not told the world he killed dozens of Taliban, he's always going to be the son, brother and perhaps uncle of the British sovereign, and that makes him a juicy target for the foreseeable.

IcedPurple · 18/12/2024 20:20

As I said on another thread, I think their moment has passed.

Neither has any particular talent or marketable quality. They really only had one selling point, and that was royal adjacency. The problem is, that is now in the past, and they failed to exploit their 'moment' to build a new post royal 'brand'. At this point, they're middle aged, old news and a little bit last decade.

Sidebeforeself · 18/12/2024 20:20

WinterCrow · 18/12/2024 18:44

You can also

  • refresh the page and click the 'X' that sits beneath the circualar refresh arrow really quickly (which is what I did)
  • use airplane mode
  • drop the URL into archive.ph

to read for free

very useful tip!

Snorlaxo · 18/12/2024 20:23

UK isn’t at the indifferent stage yet but I see much less coverage on them which is best for everyone.

I agree that tabloids excel with clickbait headlines

IcedPurple · 18/12/2024 20:24

Not2identifying · 18/12/2024 20:11

They've painted themselves into a corner. British tabloids and social media would delight in them downsizing to save money so I suspect it would feel like a humiliation. Harry should have enough money to pay off his mortgage but they're not going to be able to afford security for, what, all four of them for 40 - 80 years. He may feel the risk to A & L will reduce once they are established adults which would reduce that range but I think he'll always feel the need for his own security. I would if I were him. Because of his very high public profile and his army service ( and, now, his blabber mouth).

Overall I'm critical of many of the decisions H & M have made but I do feel a bit sorry for him on this. If I were Charles, I'd give him the equivalent cost of the additional security they would have needed had they lived quietly at Frogmore, if they hadn't courted controversy or increased the terrorist risk angle (talking about his kill numbers, etc).

By additional cost, I mean, if they were living quietly on the secure Windsor estate, that by itself wouldn't incur a cost. But they'd need security for when they left the estate (I'm thinking of them staying locally not gallivanting round the world). I think that cost should be met by Charles from his private funds. Or, again, that's what I'd do if I were Charles.

Harry has made millions from slagging off his family. He also chose to live on a vast property which must be very difficult and expensive to secure. Why should Charles subsidise his adult son's lifestyle choices?

I'm not convinced his security needs, as opposed to wants, are that significant either. He's simply not that important and his profile is not what it was a few years ago.

capitanaamerica · 18/12/2024 20:26

"Secret" = little inherent interest in them in the USA (never has been, although the author seems to think there was). Yes, there are blips - their wedding, their moving to the US during lockdown, Spare - but they're competing with millions of slebs and there's no momentum. They could still do something great and attract interest, but beyond the usual "what's it like to be a Royal in the USA/an American prince/princess?" (the kids), most people aren't paying attention until something grabs their attention.

The article is kind of misinformed (no idea how intellectual property and copyright laws work in the USA - can this paper not afford a fact checker?) and mean-spirited, so I wouldn't bother going out of your way to read it, but it's on archive.is if you do want to.

(Also, no sensible person cares that Donald Trump thinks that Prince William is 😍dreamy 💖, LOL.)

Honeycrisp · 18/12/2024 20:27

IcedPurple · 18/12/2024 20:24

Harry has made millions from slagging off his family. He also chose to live on a vast property which must be very difficult and expensive to secure. Why should Charles subsidise his adult son's lifestyle choices?

I'm not convinced his security needs, as opposed to wants, are that significant either. He's simply not that important and his profile is not what it was a few years ago.

It's not him that's important, it's the people he's related to. That's what makes him a target.

That said, I agree his housing choices complicate matters. He didn't choose who he is, but he did choose where he lives.

IcedPurple · 18/12/2024 20:29

Honeycrisp · 18/12/2024 20:27

It's not him that's important, it's the people he's related to. That's what makes him a target.

That said, I agree his housing choices complicate matters. He didn't choose who he is, but he did choose where he lives.

Who he is is 5th in line and a private citizen.

Only the King, Queen and Prince and Princess of Wales get lifelong security. None of the other royals do. Even if Harry had stayed in Britain as a working royal, his security would have been scaled back at some point.

Not2identifying · 18/12/2024 20:31

@IcedPurple I agree with you about the millions made from slagging his family off. But I think Charles could be the bigger person and just pay what would have been needed if Harry had quit Royal duties but lived quietly in Windsor in a secure place. So it wouldn't be that much but it'd be something to recognise that he was born with a higher risk profile than the average person. I'm NOT saying the tax payer should pay but Charles could from his personal funds.

IcedPurple · 18/12/2024 20:35

Not2identifying · 18/12/2024 20:31

@IcedPurple I agree with you about the millions made from slagging his family off. But I think Charles could be the bigger person and just pay what would have been needed if Harry had quit Royal duties but lived quietly in Windsor in a secure place. So it wouldn't be that much but it'd be something to recognise that he was born with a higher risk profile than the average person. I'm NOT saying the tax payer should pay but Charles could from his personal funds.

Maybe nothing would have been 'needed' if Harry had remained in Windsor. Other senior royals do not have security unless on official duty.

Money is a fungible commodity and Harry has made plenty of it by whining about how hard it is to be royal. Let him pay his own way.

Honeycrisp · 18/12/2024 20:35

IcedPurple · 18/12/2024 20:29

Who he is is 5th in line and a private citizen.

Only the King, Queen and Prince and Princess of Wales get lifelong security. None of the other royals do. Even if Harry had stayed in Britain as a working royal, his security would have been scaled back at some point.

Who he is is a close relative of the head of state of a country that's a prominent target for terrorism. There's no getting round that. Lots of nefarious groups would love to have him, because of a relationship to power that exists regardless of whether he happens to be a private citizen or not.

The complicating factors are the decisions he's made that have increased his own risk and made protection more difficult.

TinklySnail · 18/12/2024 20:37

They haven’t got anything left to give.
Harry sold his soul for money.
I don’t think of them as royals anymore. Perhaps that’s why nobody cares anymore.

IcedPurple · 18/12/2024 20:39

Honeycrisp · 18/12/2024 20:35

Who he is is a close relative of the head of state of a country that's a prominent target for terrorism. There's no getting round that. Lots of nefarious groups would love to have him, because of a relationship to power that exists regardless of whether he happens to be a private citizen or not.

The complicating factors are the decisions he's made that have increased his own risk and made protection more difficult.

As I said above, even if Harry had stayed in Britain his security would likely have been downgraded. Simply being the monarch's son doesn't automatically mean you get taxpayer funded security. And him being a private citizen does matter as he plays no role in the life of the nation and does not have any official military honours. The Captain General of the Royal Marines is different from the CHIMPO for Better Up.

If he was so concerned about security, he would never have left his secured residence to go to live as private citizen in a foreign state.

CathyorClaire · 18/12/2024 20:43

To quote Lord Percy from Blackadder - who knows or dares to dream?

To paraphrase Baldrick from same - Maybe they have a cunning plan?