Awful card

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Happy holiday season. 🙄

Perhaps a US corporate card - though I still think it stinks! They don't say "happy holidays" at Thanksgiving or Independence Day do they?? - but Harry is British and his children are half-British, and they are putting these things out under their British titles... and Archewell is supposed to be a charity not a corporate entity....

I think it's offensive.

Indeed, if other cultures are unwilling to respect Christmas, then I suggest that they refrain from taking the public holidays associated with the season. Put their money where their mouth is.

The card is naff. The family photo with the kids is funny, just because it's so obviously staged - the dogs in particular give it away because they're just standing around looking totally indifferent, which I don't think would be the case in a genuine moment of excited reunion. Suggests very much that they repeated this running hug several times to try and get the right shot.

It does seem odd to include a photo with the kids, on a corporate card. Choosing to include them in the photo but not showing their faces just feels like a bit of game playing. Why not stick to images of just the two of them working if they don't want to show the kids (which is fine)

I don't like the inclusion of the man in the hospital bed or the little girl - feels really exploitative, particularly the man in hospital. In that vulnerable position, using that photo for self promotion on a holiday card just feels a bit grim.

Does the country shut down for diwali or ramaddan or passover? When it's any of those days is it a day off for the whole country? No. If it was then yes I'd expect same neutral language to be used.

I saw the card as coming from their foundation...aka corporate

I agree with everything you have said. I would also add that I find the body language of the dog close to Harry interesting. His tail is down and as a beagle mum, I find that worrying as their tails are always upright unless they feel very worried. If you aren't familiar with beagles, you may think I am looking for a problem but as I know the breed well, it jumped out to me.

I must have misunderstood.

You can’t seriously mean you look forward to the breakdown of a marriage involving
young children? Surely nobody is that much of a jerk.

WTF on Happy Holidays?

In the US we have no state religion (for now🙄). From November through January we celebrate Thanksgiving, Haunukkah, Kawanzaa, Yule and New Years eve. Saying Happy Holidays or saying Happy Holiday Season is inclusive to all the people living in the US.

What I don't understand is why people NOT in the US would give 2 fucks over what people half way across the world say on their holiday card?

There are so many other things on that card that one can (and apparently are) complain about. But being upset over a norm in another country is beyond strange.

This thread is nuts. I'm never on this board, is this how it usually is?

And I'm quite certain anyone in the card has given permission. They will have met a lot of hospital patients and hugged a lot of children doing their work, they're hardly going to publish photos of two who didn't give consent. So many people think they are conniving, so surely they're smarter than that?

Also, they stepped down from being WORKING royals. His Dad is still the King and those are their titles. Everyone is acting like they know what goes on in their private lives and taking sides. So strange.

The country shuts down because even in 2024, the UK is a predominantly Christian country. I don't expect "neutral language" to be used as it's offensive to me as a Christian.

I would be more than happy for the country to shut down for all the other feasts and festivals from other cultures, but I can't see it happening! I will take every public holiday going!

Their foundation is meant to be a charity, therefore not "corporate".

"Happy holidays" is not standard in the UK.

Prince Harry is British, and his children are half British.

Comprende?

😂😂

Salty? What is this word?

So you would have expected M to keep her holiday traditions had she had stayed in the UK then? And not assimilated into the culture she is living in? I am sure that would have went over well. 🙄

In which case they shouldn't use their royal titles given US culture doesn't support a monarchy.
Harry displaying he's a Prince and they are the Duke and Duchess of Sussex is the same U.K. culture as this particular holiday is Christmas.

@MoreDangerousThanAWomanScorned - Thank you for posting that - I had forgotten but - but in the name of all that's holy what on earth persuaded Tony & Cherie that was not only not festive but also guaranteed to scare children ( and possibly horses ) - his face scares me a bit 😂

Well 🎄

I agree, I think they should give up their titles. But that does not erase the fact that this is a US holiday card, targeted to people in the US. So they should use US customs on the card, not British. The British are no longer their target market and it seems people are bitter.

I think we are more confused as to who the target audience is. It’s a real fusion (mish mash) of concepts.
I think it reflects that they are not clear about their identity and are trying to please too many different groups of people.

The card is awful, I agree. But why does anyone need to disparage the norms in another country?

On an interesting note, I cant believe all of you Meghan "watchers" have not noticed the similarities to their 2023 Holiday card. That should fill at least 20 pages on the thread.

Please utilise google.

What do you sound like? 😂

Happy holidays is standard in the US.

Meghan isn’t British. Meghan, Harry and their children live in the US.

When we lived in the US, we said Happy Holidays, now we live in England, it’s not a phrase we use often. When we move back to the US, no doubt we’ll all use Happy holidays again.

I'm an American. For the past decade I've sent out Happy Holiday cards since my list includes people who celebrate Christmas, Hanukkah, and the Winter Solstice. I don't know anyone who celebrates Kwanzaa. These are my personal, non -corporate cards. Easier than keeping track of everyone's religions.

Our local school district closes for major Christian and Jewish holidays as well as Eid and Diwali. Parking rules are also suspended on these days. I've had to schedule for Orthodox Jews who leave early on Fridays and people who want the pagan quarter days off. I work on Good Friday because many will not.

@wigsonthegreenandhatsforthelifting
"I hate "Happy holidays". It's Christmas"

Also Hannukah. And Kwanza. And Yule.

Delighted to see the 'Phteven the internet dog' pic (all teeth) was used. And nothing says, 'Merry Christmas' like a picture of someone in a hospital bed. How festive.

Yet even in the UK companies are using happy holidays or other words to be inclusive, which was my point since you want them to follow British norms instead of what is a typical Amercian norm and that is where they are living.

And whatever the status charity etc. It's not a personal card hence my use of corporate ergo it's from a company.

I think it's fine to use "Happy Holidays" , it's in America.
It just doesn't seem like a particularly well designed or thought out card, and it's giving different messages.