The average age of the seven minor working royals is 76 - should younger members take on more

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Excluding the King, Queen and the Wales family there are seven other working members of the Royal family with a combined average age of 76, carrying out hundreds of engagements every year - for example the Duke of Kent is 89 and still carries out regular engagements - should younger members take on more or will all these engagements become unnecessary in the future as Charles streamlines things.

They are,
Duke Of Edinburgh - 68
Duchess Of Edinburgh 59
Duke Of Gloucester 80
Duchess Of Gloucester 78
Princess Royal 74
Duke Of Kent 89
Princess Alexandra 87

What credentials do you need for Rolex watches and Land Rover which Zara endorses and gets paid a lot for? What talents for that... she drives and wears a watch 🤣

Then they would be paid from the public purse not by the crown.

@MrsLeonFarrell"I have a lot of respect for the way the way the Duke of Gloucester gave up his career when he unexpectedly inherited the title and instead followed a life of serving the monarch. And for the Duke of Kent, still fulfilling the duties of a lifetime.
It may now be an outdated Royal model and need some adjustment, but that doesn't mean I don't respect the service the late Queen's cousins gave when both expectations and society were different."
Yes, the D of Gloucester was the 'spare' in his family, but his older brother and father died within a year of each other. He stepped up to take the title and at a time when there were few others to undertake royal duties stepped up to help the late Queen. He had a proper job as an architect (I think), and neither he nor his wife, expected to inherit the title.
It is possible that Louise and James will step up when they are older, but the amount of scrutiny the royals get these days, I doubt they would want to.
If K. Charles dies in the next couple of years, then I guess there could be a reason to include Beatrice and Eugenie, but otherwise, they will likely carry on as things are.
I think it shows that maybe Harry was a bit shortsighted, as he could have been a major player when the others were sick.
However, I do not think it would be acceptable for him to come back, and frankly, I do not think he would want to.

I doubt the York sisters want to be working royals but even if they did I don't believe the public will be keen.

You really need people who haven't been in the commercial world for full time duties, otherwise it gets messy.

"I think although they would never admit it treating Harry and Meghan like absolute shite is biting the Royal family in the ass. "
In what way did they treat them like Shite?
As far as I know they had a £32 million wedding (security); Charles paid for the rest. They were invited to Balmoral etc before they were married unlike other royal wives.
They were invited to P. William's over Xmas.
In what way were they treated badly?
Harry complained about leaking to the press - maybe it was the phone hacking?

@isitsnowingyett "Zara is indeed well qualified in that world. Eg Meghan would not be because she has no talent in that area."

Out of interest, why is Meghan relevant?

The thing about the RF @milveycrohn is that they always treat the spare badly. The whole pile of royal shite is built upon convincing people the Heir is the worthy of all the money, palaces, jewels, property and a central place in any occasion that matters to the public so we can all be convinced duty means something to them and it's not all a facade.

If perpetuating that means feeding stories to the press about the spare then that's what they do.

They both major sponsors of 3 day events, and there have been a string of top flight eventers who have held these sponsorships - the first that I remember is Lucinda Prior-Palmer. There have been many since, and Zara's achievements are very much on a par with the others

@DisforDarkChocolate I agree that the spare is treated badly but by whom - the rest of the family, the men in grey suits? Will PW stand by and let the same happen to his own children the 2 spares in this case.

It's all part of the horsey lifestyle .

I guess it's mentioned because we are always reading on here about Meghan's endorsements - someone posted some post just a few days ago about how much of that hair stuff was selling because of Meghan's endorsement ( how she knew - no idea). You said that Zara only got endorsements because of being Royal which is not the case as has been pointed out to you now. Meghan is " Royal" with her title - are you saying therefore that if it were not for this she would not be getting endorsement ? She is relevant to this because of the theme of what you said.

Here it is

"Update from Highbrow Hippie after their launch, plenty of orders, they are making their way through fulfilment. Happy for them."

To compare , the York Sisters are not endorsed by sporty companies - they are not sporty. They are members of the RF. They have no relevant experience or skills. Simple.

Both Edward and Sophie spent time in the commercial world before Sophie got stung with the whole fake sheik thing.

It's because of their disastrous attempt to be half in half out that I don't think it will work for anyone to move from non working to working royals.

All of them have a reason to support the status quo so all of them.

PW will throw whoever he needs to under a bus to keep his position, as will George if we haven't got rid of them by then.

@isitsnowingyett "Meghan is " Royal" with her title - are you saying therefore that if it were not for this she would not be getting endorsement ?"

I assume not-can't imagine what else she could bring to a brand.

I'm aware of Zara's and what's his name 's sporting achievements- but I'm pretty sure not many other 45 year old ex sportspeople get such very spectacular money. Isn't it 30M the two of them have made? But I'm just a great big cynical old Hector.

Yep.

Doubt she'd have scored the £100k a year, six gig p.a. deal she had her lawyers lie about scoring had she not been TLQ's granddaughter.

Peter's 'events company' did all right too trousering more in fees for arranging the embarrassingly overpriced 90th birthday Patron's Lunch than the event raised for charity and all with the added benefit of submitting an uncontested tender.

I can't find any info about the upkeep of Bagshot House

They've been trying to rent out some rather uninspiring looking office space for nearly £11k a month for a while now.

www.rightmove.co.uk/properties/90425864#/?channel=COM_LET

Can't imagine why it's not being snapped up ☕

Aside from that I'd imagine Eddie has some kind of deal on the lease/repairs much like Charmless who paid for repairs to RL plus upgrades in a lump sum lease deal that gave him the place for the equivalent of £250 a week.

Harold benefited from similar sleight of hand in regards to the Frogmore repayment debacle ultimately saving himself and depriving the public purse of many hundreds of thousands in the process.

Use of CE property is yet another aspect requiring full transparency. Always worth remembering an alleged fraudster associate of Charmless was found to be swanning round a CE Mayfair flat with no evidence of rent being paid.

Agree
talented in her sport she might be, but her name is remembered because of her royal connections.

What a load of tosh !

I wasn't really thinking of Zara when suggesting that perhaps younger members should take on more to relieve the burden on older members, after all she's got all those horses to look after and brands to schmooze, and no-one could recognise Peter (whose wiki page definitely says he was a manager at Bank of Scotland, aka a bank manger surely?).

Obviously B&E are busy with jobs/kids/multiple houses to run and to be fair both have stood in for Kate this year at garden parties. E also does her online grocery order on a Sunday (she mentioned this in a podcast) which is time consuming - so maybe Louise is the perfect person, she's a student so obviously part-time, no kids / house to run and the money KC would have to pay her to cover the minor Royals engagements should more than cover her part-time job in the student canteen, in fact KC could probably get himself a bargain there....no more expensive charter flights as she'd qualify for a student railcard and as she lives in student digs no need for a subsidised pad at Kensington P.

Can you elaborate?

No @CathyorClaire I can't really be bothered as I've previously made my point about this.

Which spares who are ‘always’ treated badly are you referring to?