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The average age of the seven minor working royals is 76 - should younger members take on more

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Solent123 · 23/11/2024 15:44

Excluding the King, Queen and the Wales family there are seven other working members of the Royal family with a combined average age of 76, carrying out hundreds of engagements every year - for example the Duke of Kent is 89 and still carries out regular engagements - should younger members take on more or will all these engagements become unnecessary in the future as Charles streamlines things.

They are,
Duke Of Edinburgh - 68
Duchess Of Edinburgh 59
Duke Of Gloucester 80
Duchess Of Gloucester 78
Princess Royal 74
Duke Of Kent 89
Princess Alexandra 87

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AuxArmesCitoyens · 26/11/2024 13:34

MrsLeonFarrell · 26/11/2024 12:59

I agree with you about Andrew, that was a complete mess. It isn't unusual though when people are accused of such crimes for the family to refuse to believe the accusations. That is not to excuse her, just to point out she isn't alone in making that mistake.

Can you say what about palace PR around the Wales family you don't like, then I can respond more specifically? Overall I don't think they do badly.

Do families typically have £11 million (of taxpayers' money) knocking around to make all the nasty business go away?

MiscellaneousSupportHuman · 26/11/2024 14:13

CathyorClaire · 25/11/2024 20:45

It's yet another transparency fail.

Royalists will tell you the Court Circular doesn't paint a full picture and the whole lot are flat out behind the scenes but while it and it's acres of empty days are all we have to go on they're yet to explain why they're so sure.

You don't have to be a "royalist" to know that The Court Circular is accurate only for public and official engagements.

It's generally known and was, of course, a source of a specific complaint from Harry that the full scope of his work was not adequately recognised.

Notmoog · 26/11/2024 14:31

MiscellaneousSupportHuman · 26/11/2024 14:13

You don't have to be a "royalist" to know that The Court Circular is accurate only for public and official engagements.

It's generally known and was, of course, a source of a specific complaint from Harry that the full scope of his work was not adequately recognised.

ah right.
So what they don't list is the work they do on their personal vast estates and wealth management? Got it.

DisforDarkChocolate · 26/11/2024 14:34

They should all retire/fuck off.

AuxArmesCitoyens · 26/11/2024 14:34

It also begs the question of whether engagements count as work in any meaningful sense. Being driven somewhere in a nice car wearing nice clothes to eat nice food and be shown around somewhere interesting sounds pretty much like leisure to me.

MiscellaneousSupportHuman · 26/11/2024 14:36

Notmoog · 26/11/2024 14:31

ah right.
So what they don't list is the work they do on their personal vast estates and wealth management? Got it.

Harry doesn't have a personal estate, and AFAIK he's the only one on the inside to have commented about it at all.

Samcro · 26/11/2024 14:37

@taxguru I have to disagree with some of your post. Charles seemed to take very little time off . he was said to have pause treatment when he went to Australia. so he has imo been quite present, William on the other hand has once again used his children as a reason for not stepping up.
even though they are at school and will have nannies.

OneTealSloth · 26/11/2024 14:50

Thread update. Royalists are too busy salivating over Harry skipping Tyler Perrys event lol

Charles had nothing to be worried about.

Mylovelygreendress · 26/11/2024 14:52

Samcro · 26/11/2024 14:37

@taxguru I have to disagree with some of your post. Charles seemed to take very little time off . he was said to have pause treatment when he went to Australia. so he has imo been quite present, William on the other hand has once again used his children as a reason for not stepping up.
even though they are at school and will have nannies.

William has been out and about quite a bit if you care to look at the news . He is in Salisbury today .
Yes the children have a nanny but posters criticise other members of the RF for using Nannies!
He is also supporting his wife through her cancer treatment. Having gone through chemo etc myself it is not a walk in the park.
But in some people’s eyes W and C can do nothing right 🤷‍♀️

Mylovelygreendress · 26/11/2024 14:55

OneTealSloth · 26/11/2024 14:50

Thread update. Royalists are too busy salivating over Harry skipping Tyler Perrys event lol

Charles had nothing to be worried about.

Salivating ?? Really ?

MiscellaneousSupportHuman · 26/11/2024 15:02

Mylovelygreendress · 26/11/2024 14:55

Salivating ?? Really ?

Of course not
a) ridiculous hyperbole
b) it's just using "royalists" as a slur - another angle on the wholly misplaced idea that there are two tidy (and opposing) camps

OneTealSloth · 26/11/2024 15:07

Mylovelygreendress · 26/11/2024 14:55

Salivating ?? Really ?

Yes, there’s already a thread up about how this means trouble for Harry and Meghan’s marriage 😂

OneTealSloth · 26/11/2024 15:07

Mylovelygreendress · 26/11/2024 14:52

William has been out and about quite a bit if you care to look at the news . He is in Salisbury today .
Yes the children have a nanny but posters criticise other members of the RF for using Nannies!
He is also supporting his wife through her cancer treatment. Having gone through chemo etc myself it is not a walk in the park.
But in some people’s eyes W and C can do nothing right 🤷‍♀️

Nah, far people believe they can do nothing wrong 🤷🏽‍♀️

MiscellaneousSupportHuman · 26/11/2024 15:22

OneTealSloth · 26/11/2024 15:07

Yes, there’s already a thread up about how this means trouble for Harry and Meghan’s marriage 😂

I don't see this salivating of which you speak.

And Harry does seem to have fucked up by being listed as one of the hosts of an event that he will not be attending. Not a great look.

So, in an attempt to get back to the theme of this thread, it is perhaps a good job he has found a life that suits him better. Because diary clashes are something that I can't remember happening in the RF (the minor royals as well as the seniors), as they seem to pay considerably more attention to scheduling at the outset. And once committed to an event stick by that. Even with a considerably smaller number of minor royals, they don't go in for cancelling on one if another better gig comes along.

There will however be fewer gigs because there are fewer people - it's gone from ER II with mother/sibling/cousins, via ER II with cousins/adult DC and idc the adult DC in the direct line, to KC with 2 of his sibling/1 of his DC, some of ER II's cousins.

So there will have to be ever more stringent prioritisation, and no scope whatsoever for double booking any of the individual family members.

Mylovelygreendress · 26/11/2024 15:56

I don’t think I have ever seen a human salivate . My dog has been known to when he smells roast chicken but that’s it .

MrsLeonFarrell · 26/11/2024 16:18

AuxArmesCitoyens · 26/11/2024 14:34

It also begs the question of whether engagements count as work in any meaningful sense. Being driven somewhere in a nice car wearing nice clothes to eat nice food and be shown around somewhere interesting sounds pretty much like leisure to me.

I'm an introvert. It sounds like an anxiety inducing nightmare to me. I would absolutely hate to be royal.

AuxArmesCitoyens · 26/11/2024 16:23

That is not how work works though. I would hate to go to a rave, but raves are definitely not work.

MrsLeonFarrell · 26/11/2024 16:24

Samcro · 26/11/2024 14:37

@taxguru I have to disagree with some of your post. Charles seemed to take very little time off . he was said to have pause treatment when he went to Australia. so he has imo been quite present, William on the other hand has once again used his children as a reason for not stepping up.
even though they are at school and will have nannies.

I'm pro constitutional monarchy. I do however agree that William needs to step up more, not necessarily in doing more, I have no idea what he does day to day, but in the modern age he needs to be seen to be working, He needs to explain how he spends his time to the country in more detail. I think their Instagram does this to some extent but not everyone is on Instagram and if Catherine isn't with him, whenThe Mail etc can't comment on her frock, he gets less coverage. The late Queen used to say she had to be seen to be believed, today I would recast that as being seen serving the country in practical ways.

CurlewKate · 26/11/2024 16:24

@MrsLeonFarrell "Can you say what about palace PR around the Wales family you don't like, then I can respond more specifically? Overall I don't think they do badly."

Fair enough. I disagree- I think that much of the past year has been very badly handled for them and both the long silences and the statements actually made have done them no favours. But I know that opinions differ.

LaMarschallin · 26/11/2024 16:25

Mylovelygreendress · 26/11/2024 15:56

I don’t think I have ever seen a human salivate . My dog has been known to when he smells roast chicken but that’s it .

I think they're just excited that they've found a new verb. Makes a change from "frothing".
You can't expect too much variety when almost every post ends "lol", "looool" or "lmao", to be fair.

CathyorClaire · 26/11/2024 16:30

It's generally known and was, of course, a source of a specific complaint from Harry that the full scope of his work was not adequately recognised.

The man who works for an hour a week?

Doesn't say much for the rest of them 😂

MrsLeonFarrell · 26/11/2024 16:34

CurlewKate · 26/11/2024 16:24

@MrsLeonFarrell "Can you say what about palace PR around the Wales family you don't like, then I can respond more specifically? Overall I don't think they do badly."

Fair enough. I disagree- I think that much of the past year has been very badly handled for them and both the long silences and the statements actually made have done them no favours. But I know that opinions differ.

The past year has definitely been hard, I'm not sure what they could have done PR wise to make it any better though.

I'm not sure it's possible to avoid leaving space for trolls to spread rumours in the modern age of you want to keep some measure of privacy. Unless they are going to go down the route some celebrities have chosen and release every little detail there are always going to be people who add 1 + 1 and make 500.

So I agree that it was a nasty mess, I'm just not sure how much of that mess was of their making when the release of subsequent information pretty much played out in line with the original statement timeline. I think i would lay a lot of it at the feet of people on twitter and other social media for spreasing lies and the press for picking it up and running with it because they wanted more information and were denied it by the palace.

I may be wrong about this though.

Solent123 · 26/11/2024 16:35

Actually seeing how much these engagements cost in terms of travel maybe cutting back isn't a bad idea - Zoom is the way forward

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isitsnowingyett · 26/11/2024 16:51

@OneTealSloth what are "far people"?

isitsnowingyett · 26/11/2024 17:02

CurlewKate · 26/11/2024 11:28

@isitsnowingyett "You missed out on" in my opinion" in this post and of course you are perfectly entitled to believe that. It doesn't make it a fact however"

That applies to every single post in this section. Except possibly for their dates of birth! We can be sure of nothing except the most basic of facts.

Correct.

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