C4 Dispatches on Duchies of Cornwall and Lancaster

[Babadookinthewardrobe]

I couldn’t find another thread on this. I watched this yesterday. I am so angry. The royal family are grim parasites funding their luxury lifestyle from the sweat of the British people. Via the duchies they are rinsing the NHS and charities for millions. It’s horrific. No IHT, no CGT, no transparency, no consideration for the environment of which they are supposed to be stewards in the duchies.

Their behaviour and greed is absolutely grim
and I am so sick of the lot of them. I’m joining republic, I’m so shocked at what I’ve just seen. The French had the right idea.

So the royals have graciously donated the rental income back to cover the double rental period, right? Right?

(Also plenty of companies manage things very differently to Marie Curie to avoid paying dual rent. One company I deal with currently has all its staff working from home for the next month to bridge the gap between leaving their old premises and taking possession of their new one).

The King is the charity’s patron as it happens, so if they want to raise that with him directly, they can.

1. The king should not own the fricking sea bed on the first place to make a billion from and 2. It should not be dependent on his own whim what he does with the money. It should be national property.

I could live with a slimmed down constitutional monarchy. I would not love it. But this lot are frankly taking the piss.

Any lack of awareness is entirely down to the RF deliberately blocking transparency at every turn. So I don't think your despair should be directed at posters here. And particularly during a time of hardship, people do indeed have 'strong opinions' when the revealed facts confirm long held suspicions that the public are being ripped off by these very privileged individuals who claim to serve them.

And the 'historical roots' of the funding are not in themselves any justification for the current status quo - you seem to be confusing a statement of historical fact with a justification.

It should be national property.

Like it is in Italy, where the government then grants leases to private companies so the public can’t use it, you mean?

Is it clear what they are hiding? The annual reports are published every year.

If this was the other pair who owned a duchy you would started the thread before the documentary was even aired and been ripping them to shreds . Just saying...

Any lack of awareness is entirely down to the RF deliberately blocking transparency at every turn.

Actually I think a lot of it is down to posters choosing not to look into all the wealth of publicly information that is available at the click of a mouse and preferring to form their opinions based solely on that which best fits their own pre-formed opinions.

As seen throughout this thread, if it’s said by someone, and it accords with what I want to believe, it must be accurate, right?

If this was the other pair you would started the thread before the documentary was evne aired and been ripping them to shreds . Just saying...

Where do you think they got their funding from until 6 months after they left the UK?

Are we talking about the sea bed? How are the public planning to use it? Are the private companies paying their fair share of taxes? And why would it have to be the Italian model specifically rather than held in trust for the nation or a sovereign fund?

Haha you'd like to think so ... given Charles is patron of Marie Curie

But no. What a surprise.

Well in the UK the seabed is currently held in trust for the nation because the Crown Estate owns it. Not Charles personally.

So when you said it should be “national property” I assumed you meant owned by the government not the Crown Estate. Beacuse I presumed you meant it should be differently owned than it is now….

The RF don't block anybody from reading up on how the Duchys were set up and operate.

I am no monarchist but I don't blame rhe current King and PoW for a situation they inherited. QEII had decades to address the fact that the Duchys were so obscenely wealthy but didn't. Now, two years after her death, her son and grandson are being personally blamed here for a situation she did nothing to remedy but they're sypposed to fix in an instant.
Historical facts are, indeed, not justification. But if you don't know the facts in the first place, you can come to the wrong conclusion. Like many posters here have done, thinking that K & W personally own stuff that they are actually mere beneficiaries of and can.make decisions that they can't

M's clothing budget was paid from the Duch of Cornwall, and would have funded the school my daughter works at for the forseable future.

I’m not surprised the gruesome twosome are grabbing as much income as they can, mistresses are expensive.

Like many posters here have done, thinking that K & W personally own stuff that they are actually mere beneficiaries of and can.make decisions that they can't

What do they do with the "stuff" they HAVE to take as their own because they have no choice in the matter?

It wouldn't surprise me if they were all getting their hands on whatever they can so that when if the monarchy ends they are set up for life.

It’s actually very common for countries who have gotten rid of their royals to have to pay them compensation if they took their assets in the process - Romania, Bulgaria and Greece have all paid their former royal families compensation. The former Prussian royals are still suing the German government even now (obviously the last Kaiser was Wilhelm II, deposed after WWII).

They are disgusting and we need to get shut of them.

Charles is also patron of the cancer charity Macmillan from whom rental income was also claimed. Macmillan has gone through a cost cutting exercise recently, involving several redundancies.

Despite being 'patron' Charles has actually benefited from the rental income....that means he has ultimately benefited from donations by members of the public. And to my knowledge he has not chosen to forgo those donations during a time of hardship.

Now, two years after her death, her son and grandson are being personally blamed here for a situation she did nothing to remedy but they're sypposed to fix in an instant.

Hang on a minute.... Charles took over the running of the Duchy of Cornwall in 1969!!!
You can't tell me that for 50 years he knew nothing about it!

The closest historical precedent is probably Ireland when on independence in 1922, ownership of the former Crown estates in Ireland transferred to the Irish state.

Pick a lane. If the sea bed is held by the crown estate for the nation, royalists should not be praising Charles for handing over the cash. As it stands, if he decided to blow it all on coke and hookers a new gold coach, could we stop him?

That money pays for the Head of State to live in accommodation suitable for a Head of State. (How much money does it cost to house a HoS of the USA or France, I wonder?)
I believe they have to account for it, too.