C4 Dispatches on Duchies of Cornwall and Lancaster

[Babadookinthewardrobe]

I couldn’t find another thread on this. I watched this yesterday. I am so angry. The royal family are grim parasites funding their luxury lifestyle from the sweat of the British people. Via the duchies they are rinsing the NHS and charities for millions. It’s horrific. No IHT, no CGT, no transparency, no consideration for the environment of which they are supposed to be stewards in the duchies.

Their behaviour and greed is absolutely grim
and I am so sick of the lot of them. I’m joining republic, I’m so shocked at what I’ve just seen. The French had the right idea.

The committees that run the duchys would, indeed, stop him.

Now, two years after her death, her son and grandson are being personally blamed here for a situation she did nothing to remedy but they're sypposed to fix in an instant.

And yet the DoC - managed by Whatsapp messages 7/7 ( at least we now know what Willy does with all those engagement free days) has signed three environmentally damaging yet lucrative mining agreements in the past eight months...

So if Charles has no choice in what he does with the money why are royalists trying to frame it as a generous donation?

Beacuse as I understand it (i.e. how it was reported) Charles specifically asked that the money from the wind farm be excluded from the Crown Estates profits for that year when Treasury worked out the percentage of the profits were to be paid to him as the Sovereign Grant. Thus reducing the size of the grant for that year by many millions.

So, in essence he gave up 15% of £1bn on that basis all that income should go to the public purse.

But if the crown estate is held in the interest ofthe nation it should not be up to the whim of one unelected individual to make those decisions. There should be transparency and public input.

Have just started watching this

Charles can’t make HMT act on his wish though. That was for them to decide. He suggested they deal with the windfall this way, and government presumably decided it was a sensible suggestion and acted accordingly, then announced it.

Why does this need public input? How to spend HMT spends revenues is always a matter for the Executive.

In the immediate it did not work well for many people, rich and poor alike.

But, it (well, the Enlightenment) left us the extraordinary gift of freedom.

This conversation is a good example of that.

No heads will roll...

Well, not all the buildings all the time.

Some are, some are not.

Are you referring to the person that was provided with NYPD police escort for him and his personal security when he visited a LES tattoo parlor in my city a few weeks ago? My tax dollars are apparently now going to protect him, and I live in a democratic Republic.

The executive has public input via elections

I'd love to be rid of the royals. Well done Channel 4.

Beacuse as I understand it (i.e. how it was reported) Charles specifically asked that the money from the wind farm be excluded from the Crown Estates profits for that year when Treasury worked out the percentage of the profits were to be paid to him as the Sovereign Grant. Thus reducing the size of the grant for that year by many millions.

Shame then that he hasn't yet seen his way to voluntarily accepting a smaller slice of the never-to-be-reduced SG in the face of the now diminished family numbers undertaking duties.

Land ownership in the US:

https://landreport.com/land-report-100

Use of resources in land ownership in the US:

https://revenuedata.doi.gov/how-revenue-works/ownership/

or give some of it back when covid meant all their engagements were cancelled

You'd think, wouldn't you?

But not only did they fail to hand any of it back, Crown Estate profits fell and under the never to reduce provision we made up the difference 😡

Well, why doesn't the elected government change the agreement?

I have benefited from my parents help with housing, all within the law. It is up to the government of our elected representatives to set limits on the super rich, and for us as the electorate to vote on that basis.

The RF, or other individuals, are pretty irrelevant. Attacking the RF, or Richard Branson, or Rishi Sunak for their wealth is attacking the symptom, not the cause.

Edited for typo

Why doesn't the elected government change the agreement?

Clearly because the appetite isn't there to do it, @Baital

Over the tears any perceived "attack" on the monarchy was always seen as a vote loser - though admittedly the overall respect for the late Queen may have had a lot to do with that - and as said earlier the family are in an ideal position to make not interfering with theeir privilege very worthwhile

Aaah, it’s alright everyone, stand down…..

The Duchy of Cornwall has now clarified that it is in fact a “private estate with a commercial imperative”.

So that’s all cleared up then, silly me.

50p and a packet of wotsits goes to anyone who can explain what a private estate with a commercial imperative might be, and how one might therefore justify rinsing eg charities of which one is patron?

50p and a packet of wotsits goes to anyone who can explain what a private estate with a commercial imperative might be

Whatever they want it to be on any given day? (Don't like Wotsits but can I claim the 50p? )

Have to admit that's a new one on the list of shifting definitions though ...

Correct @Puzzledandpissedoff!
A pat on the back but no 50p for you I’m afraid on account of not liking wotsits and therefore rendering your entry null and void. Sorry but thems the rules.

I change the rules according to mood you know.