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Prince William 'We can end homelessness"

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Thedom · 30/10/2024 23:26

Part 1, I thought it was a really insightful and thought provoking documentary, very well produced and some impressive people working tirelessly to support the homeless community.

William came across as passionate and very articulate, knowledgeable without appearing to be preaching. A great cause and hopefully will be successful, it's great he is working so closely with those who are on the front line daily trying to make a difference.

He looks so like Diana, not only his appearance but his mannerisms and expressions, could have been watching and listening to Diana at times.

Don't know how it will do on Disney+ though, it is very UK specific, an unsexy subject and I am sure they will have to add subtitles in places.

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MrsFinkelstein · 03/11/2024 10:11

Are the rents charged way above market value? The NHS rents land and buildings from multiple private landlords. As long as it's a fair market rate I have no issue with that. The NHS also own some properties that they rent out to 3rd parties. Some of them are in poor condition, is the NHS a slum landlord? Is my local council?

If all the properties are in poor condition then the programme may have had a point, but if they're saying old buildings are difficult to maintain and heat, coupled with problem tenants (every Social Housing Dept has this issue) then they're not telling us anything we don't know. If a handful of properties out of the many they own are the issue, then that seems standard across the housing sector. Old properties are difficult to maintain and need a lot of investment. They also need the tenants to work alongside the landlords.

MrsFinkelstein · 03/11/2024 10:12

BustingBaoBun · 03/11/2024 10:09

That must have taken some finding! Are you saying that all tenants are turning down necessary works?

^Conversations with several tenants who wished to remain nameless revealed their struggles living in these inadequately insulated properties, the majority lack central heating, with many dependent on costly solid fuels for warmth.
One tenant revealed: "It gets miserably cold especially in the winter, you can see through the roof. I can only heat two rooms in my home using a wood burner and a coal fire, and the landlord told me that my rent was going to be put up considerably if they put in radiators.^

It's in the Telegraph article. Are you saying you didn't read it?

Edit: unless they give numbers of tenants to see what the % of substandard properties are across the whole, it's easy to make a mountain out of a molehill. It's very much Trumpian "many people are saying". All housing associations/landlords will have tenants who can say the same things. Some properties are too old and are very difficult to maintain.

BustingBaoBun · 03/11/2024 10:15

I have read all the articles on this that are available yesterday and this morning, hence all my links. Some articles are very long. I cannot remember every single detail.

namechange1975 · 03/11/2024 10:16

@MrsFinkelstein it is becoming increasingly difficult to defend this out of touch family who live off the taxpayer yet preach to the public about homelessness. They should get their own house in order.

AuxArmesCitoyens · 03/11/2024 10:16

Yes let's blame the tenant rather than the landlord letting substandard properties 🙄

MrsFinkelstein · 03/11/2024 10:17

namechange1975 · 03/11/2024 10:16

@MrsFinkelstein it is becoming increasingly difficult to defend this out of touch family who live off the taxpayer yet preach to the public about homelessness. They should get their own house in order.

It's actually pretty easy. And I'm very much a lukewarm Royalist.

namechange1975 · 03/11/2024 10:19

If you are lukewarm @MrsFinkelstein then I can't wait for the royalists to come on board but they seem to be quiet at the moment for some reason.

MrsFinkelstein · 03/11/2024 10:22

AuxArmesCitoyens · 03/11/2024 10:16

Yes let's blame the tenant rather than the landlord letting substandard properties 🙄

As an NHS Nurse for decades who has worked alongside Housing/Social Work/Education and seen how a minority of tenants treat their property - yes sometimes.

Edit: absolutely, sometimes it's the landlords and some properties are absolutely not fit for purpose. Is this the case here?

Again - what's the % of substandard properties out of the total? All of them? Less than 10%? What's the number? Now compare that to other Private Landlords. Compare it to Social Housing.
Is it better/worse/much the same?

If it's worse than others, then you have a point.

What we really need is a private Landlord to set up a forum where mental health/housing/health/education/addictions can work together to build and pilot new housing plans to combat problem housing and homelessness.

Wherever will we find this unicorn?

MrsFinkelstein · 03/11/2024 10:24

namechange1975 · 03/11/2024 10:19

If you are lukewarm @MrsFinkelstein then I can't wait for the royalists to come on board but they seem to be quiet at the moment for some reason.

It's Sunday morning. I'm just up. And most this was posted overnight.

As per.

BustingBaoBun · 03/11/2024 10:25

Personally I think 'landlords' such as Charles and William should be held to the highest standards. They preach to us about issues, they won't disclose how much tax they have paid on the £25M plus they receive from the Duchies, they pay no corporation tax or capital gains tax... they should be squeaky clean.

BustingBaoBun · 03/11/2024 10:27

Again - what's the % of substandard properties out of the total? All of them?

It's between 12 and 14% for both Duchies

BustingBaoBun · 03/11/2024 10:31

I find it absolutely bizarre that the Head of the Armed Services (the King) charges the Royal Navy to moor and refuel its fleet, and the Army for using Dartmoor for training exercises.

MrsFinkelstein · 03/11/2024 10:34

BustingBaoBun · 03/11/2024 10:31

I find it absolutely bizarre that the Head of the Armed Services (the King) charges the Royal Navy to moor and refuel its fleet, and the Army for using Dartmoor for training exercises.

You think they should get it for free? How would that work? The Army & Navy then pay all maintenance and upkeep fees? All salaries to maintenance staff? Would probably end up costing them more, but ok.

What an absolute weird comment.
Really scraping the bottom of the barrel here.

MrsFinkelstein · 03/11/2024 10:35

BustingBaoBun · 03/11/2024 10:27

Again - what's the % of substandard properties out of the total? All of them?

It's between 12 and 14% for both Duchies

Thanks, so how does that compare to other large Private Landlords (Duchy of Westminster etc), how does it compare to Social Housing Associations, Local Authority housing?

AuxArmesCitoyens · 03/11/2024 10:41

I cannot believe people are ok wirh this insanely wealthy family who have not worked a day on their lives taking money from cancer charities donated by the public WHEN THEY ARE PATRONS OF THOSE SAME CHARITIES

BustingBaoBun · 03/11/2024 10:43

MrsFinkelstein · 03/11/2024 10:34

You think they should get it for free? How would that work? The Army & Navy then pay all maintenance and upkeep fees? All salaries to maintenance staff? Would probably end up costing them more, but ok.

What an absolute weird comment.
Really scraping the bottom of the barrel here.

Not a bizarre comment at all. Would you like to explain to me why the Armed Forces (public servants) should give money to Charles & William (public servants) and also maybe explain what 'maintenance staff' is needed on Dartmoor to enable training exercises to happen? I have been to Dartmoor more than once, it is wild open moorland.

You defend all this as much as you want, I find that weird actually!

DojaPhat · 03/11/2024 10:43

If this had been harry this board would have solely caused the internet to short circuit Grin
Having said that yes, Will's right, if we all chip in a bit and he matches our donations we can all definitely end homelessness together. I reckon he's good for at least £85.

EdithWeston · 03/11/2024 11:48

BustingBaoBun · 03/11/2024 10:27

Again - what's the % of substandard properties out of the total? All of them?

It's between 12 and 14% for both Duchies

No it didn’t say that. Those figures are for properties with ratings below E, and omits the bit where it says they are on scheduled improvement plan or are exempt (doesn’t say which exemption, but listed buildings is the one that seems likely)

BustingBaoBun · 03/11/2024 11:51

EdithWeston · 03/11/2024 11:48

No it didn’t say that. Those figures are for properties with ratings below E, and omits the bit where it says they are on scheduled improvement plan or are exempt (doesn’t say which exemption, but listed buildings is the one that seems likely)

Well... as I said elsewhere... they would say that wouldn't they? There is no detail in this percentage figure of when the improvements will be done, what percentage are listed... but we are used to this, the Monarchy is always short on detail. Just smoke and mirrors.

Lavenderfarmcottage · 03/11/2024 12:09

Spectre8 · 03/11/2024 07:44

Well now surprised really the monarchy have special laws that mean they dont pay tax on their private earnings 🙄

They both earned £20m+ a yr from their Duchy yet their are people in rented homes that aren't legally energy efficient but they get away with it. Being head of them they will have known but hey so long as they make their millions why do they even care about their subjects to fix the problem or not rent them out until it's fixed.

It’s not just the absence of tax but basically free accommodation in that they’re living in properties maintained and run by the public.

AuxArmesCitoyens · 03/11/2024 12:21

Why, exactly, are we giving this family a feather-bedded taxpayer-funded lifestyle and buying them new helicopters if we can't hold them to higher standards than the man in the street?

BustingBaoBun · 03/11/2024 12:26

AuxArmesCitoyens · 03/11/2024 12:21

Why, exactly, are we giving this family a feather-bedded taxpayer-funded lifestyle and buying them new helicopters if we can't hold them to higher standards than the man in the street?

I agree. Given their privilege, they should be squeaky clean. And they're not. And I imagine we don't know half of it.

Lavenderfarmcottage · 03/11/2024 12:27

Nothing will come of this. They basically own a tonne of real estate all over the country and their children and their children will benefit and get wealthier and wealthier. Meanwhile inheritances for everyone else are taxed and people are forced to sell real estate rather than hold & become stronger with each generation.

Tidy reporting by the Times but so what ? Everyone will be outraged for five minutes and then Kate will return to duties or Harry will return to the UK or Meghan will release her first and it will all be forgotten.

It’s not just their wealthy they’re protecting its power, being above the laws and the rules of the little people and part of the purple circle. These are just the perks that get published. Power doesn’t answer to anyone, nor at this level and even the Times won’t dent them.

Puts things into perspective re Harry hustling for security funds & staying in Tyler Perry’s house to escape paparazzi.

CurlewKate · 03/11/2024 12:29

Maybe he could start by not taking public money as rent from some of his extensive property portfolio......

AuxArmesCitoyens · 03/11/2024 12:32

I mean, if the taxpayer was giving me millions for sitting on my arse all year other than the occasional skiing trip I am sure I could find it in me to charge literal cancer charities a peppercorn rent.

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