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Meghan’s Midas Touch

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Twistybranch · 21/10/2024 17:03

So Clare Keller who once designed for the likes of Gucci, Chloe, Givenchy is now at Uniqlo.

NYT has done an article on Clare, where Clare tries to make out that Clare wanted her stint at Givenchy to be a short one …sure Clare

Meghan has emailed in to say she got a few items from Clare’s Uniqlo collection. Bet she’s gutted she can’t get the designer togs anymore! But my god…Meghans hardly the person to call upon as a fashion ambassador.

But I’m thinking, 2017- April 2020, when she left Givenchy. Is a very short time for a head at an atelier. So it looks obvious she was let go or was ‘mutually agreed’ as the Sussex’s like to say.

But could it be, that her stand out garment from her time there, Meghans wedding dress, was her downfall?

Im sure on paper the dress looked gorgeous. Simple, elegant, clean lines. But with the bespoke duchess satin used, which was incredibly thick - it didnt lend itself to elegant sleeves or a fine fit. We also know from the flower girl dresses it was a rush job. Charlottes dress was shocking, with a hanging hemline etc.

The fit of some of the flower girl dresses and Meghan dress didn’t look good. This must have reflected on Givenchy and Clare. I’m guessing that’s why she left so soon with no job to go to and now is at a fast fashion label!

Her Trajectory seems the same as Meghans. Duchess to D list. Givenchy to Uniqlo.

So why on earth she got Meghan to write an email talking her up I don’t know. Working with her seems like the kiss of death!

https://archive.ph/lpnqP - for those that don’t have an NYT subscription

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/17/style/clare-waight-keller-uniqlo-givenchy.html

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12FreeRangeEggs · 24/10/2024 07:20

Dustyblue · 24/10/2024 04:10

Ha! She doesn't look pleased does she?

I always wondered if the tiara story was true- that Meghan insisted on one with an emerald that 'was of unknown providence' & thus she couldn't have it.

In that situation, I'd be so dazzled by the array of fine jewels I'd say something like "I'd be honoured if you chose one for me".

Meanwhile Eugenie wore an emerald tiara on her wedding day, I guess that was a different one.

Apparently the emerald tiara that Eugenie wore is insanely valuable, something like 15 x the value of the tiara that Kate wore. No wonder it was appealing.

Pineapplesandthegovernmentandpunkrock · 24/10/2024 11:11

It's quite logical that the most special/valuable tiaras are reserved for those born royal and who are beloved children/grandchildren of the monarch, rather than for those marrying in, even if they will ultimately outrank the born royals once they are married. I can't imagine getting upset about which drop dead gorgeous tiara I get to wear - they are all stunning.

Twistybranch · 24/10/2024 11:50

Particularly when traditionally you wear the family tiara.
The only reason why Meg and Kate wore one of the queens, is that they didn’t have a family tiara because they arent from aristocratic families. Diana wore the Spencer tiara on her wedding day.

As such, I wonder is meghan and Harry will purchase a ‘sussex’ tiara. We know they are obsessed with titles and prestige, hence the monogrammed doormat and staff wearing monogrammed pins. They have attention grabbing titles of Prince and princess to two children that they are desperate to keep from public view.

If they create their own tiara, then Lilibet could wear it one day and it passes down Archie’s line. It obvious that neither meghan or Lilibet would ever wear anything from the Royal collection. If lilibet gets married, I doubt that it will be in the UK and marked as a royal wedding, so she wouldn’t get the chance to wear one.

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theemptinessmachine · 24/10/2024 11:53

@Lifestooshort71 you also get to an age whereby a very short time with someone tells you all you need to know. The Queen met so many people in her life and was an expert.

Not2identifying · 24/10/2024 12:01

I think they'll borrow the Spencer tiara for Lili's wedding (she is Diana's granddaughter, after all) but that they won't attend any other occasions where a tiara would be needed.

MiscellaneousSupportHuman · 24/10/2024 12:06

Not2identifying · 24/10/2024 12:01

I think they'll borrow the Spencer tiara for Lili's wedding (she is Diana's granddaughter, after all) but that they won't attend any other occasions where a tiara would be needed.

Only if Earl Spencer agrees.

Usually it would be for the use only of his countess, but also his daughters on their wedding days. It's pretty rare for family tiaras to be loaned out beyond the direct line though

Not2identifying · 24/10/2024 12:08

I think he would risk coming across as mean and petty if he were to refuse...particularly as Harry seems to working to keep a relationship of sorts with the Spencer side.

FloofPaws · 24/10/2024 12:10

Not2identifying · 24/10/2024 12:01

I think they'll borrow the Spencer tiara for Lili's wedding (she is Diana's granddaughter, after all) but that they won't attend any other occasions where a tiara would be needed.

Naahh... if Megs got a tiara she'd be wearing it with that god awful red dress 30 years later like Lola from Copacabana song 💃😵👑

MissRoseDurward · 24/10/2024 12:31

I think he would risk coming across as mean and petty if he were to refuse...particularly as Harry seems to working to keep a relationship of sorts with the Spencer side.

Would depend on the nature of the occasion, I daresay. At Althorp - ok. English country house style wedding elsewhere - possibly ok. Hollywood glitz - not ok.

And also will depend on who is Earl when the time comes. Uncle Charles may not still be around.

And who would pay for insurance and security if the tiara has to be transported anywhere?

Not2identifying · 24/10/2024 12:52

I reckon Harry would be happy to pay for that so he could see his daughter wearing his late mother's tiara.

theemptinessmachine · 24/10/2024 13:26

I keep on seeing this title as Meghan's Magic Torch 😂

Meghan’s Midas Touch
Uricon2 · 24/10/2024 13:54

I love Sarah Chatto's wedding dress and it particularly struck me that her 3 teenage/adult bridesmaids were all in full length ivory dresses too.

A bold and confident choice and the pictures of them as a group, helping her with her dress, are lovely.

JSMill · 24/10/2024 14:29

Not2identifying · 24/10/2024 12:52

I reckon Harry would be happy to pay for that so he could see his daughter wearing his late mother's tiara.

Agreed and he'd sell the story to Hello magazine.

wordler · 24/10/2024 15:15

Uricon2 · 24/10/2024 13:54

I love Sarah Chatto's wedding dress and it particularly struck me that her 3 teenage/adult bridesmaids were all in full length ivory dresses too.

A bold and confident choice and the pictures of them as a group, helping her with her dress, are lovely.

The origin of bridesmaids was to be dressed as decoys of the bride, with matching dresses and hair, in order to protect the bride from evil spirits.

MiscellaneousSupportHuman · 24/10/2024 15:25

Not2identifying · 24/10/2024 12:52

I reckon Harry would be happy to pay for that so he could see his daughter wearing his late mother's tiara.

The tiara was never Diana's.

It's the Spencer family tiara, owned by the Earl who let her wear it on her wedding day.

So the DDs of any of the Earl's sisters would need his agreement (and I don't know if anyone from the Fellowes or McCorquodale DDs wanted to or did wear it). It's a long way in to the future for any of those DC to be having children, and I really wouldn't expect great-nieces to be wearing it.

Twistybranch · 24/10/2024 15:33

wordler · 24/10/2024 15:15

The origin of bridesmaids was to be dressed as decoys of the bride, with matching dresses and hair, in order to protect the bride from evil spirits.

My bridesmaids had ivory dresses too. Still married so maybe it works!

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AutumnCrow · 24/10/2024 15:55

FloofPaws · 24/10/2024 12:10

Naahh... if Megs got a tiara she'd be wearing it with that god awful red dress 30 years later like Lola from Copacabana song 💃😵👑

Gawd, don't. You'll have me dreaming about Baby Jane Hudson and Norma Desmond.

Uricon2 · 24/10/2024 16:17

wordler · 24/10/2024 15:15

The origin of bridesmaids was to be dressed as decoys of the bride, with matching dresses and hair, in order to protect the bride from evil spirits.

Thank you, I didn't know that! I get the feeling Sarah C was anything but a bridezilla as I can't imagine that piece of lore being resurrected anytime soon, given current wedding mores.

Fugliest · 24/10/2024 16:37

Not2identifying · 24/10/2024 12:08

I think he would risk coming across as mean and petty if he were to refuse...particularly as Harry seems to working to keep a relationship of sorts with the Spencer side.

I think that horse ('risk coming across as mean and petty') has bolted - he didnt attend two of his own daughters recent weddings and is on his 3/4th failed marriage/engagement whilst in his 50s.

BemusedAmerican · 24/10/2024 16:45

Lili is being raised in California. She could very easily decide to get married in a grove of redwoods wearing a flower crown. Family tiaras are not a US tradition.

Catgotthecreamandthesalmon · 24/10/2024 16:53

theemptinessmachine · 24/10/2024 02:33

The knowing look?

That look speaks a thousand words.

smilesy · 24/10/2024 17:04

BemusedAmerican · 24/10/2024 16:45

Lili is being raised in California. She could very easily decide to get married in a grove of redwoods wearing a flower crown. Family tiaras are not a US tradition.

I hope she does. but don’t forget her parents have given her a title and may well expect her to have a royal style wedding, regardless of where or how she is being brought up 🤷‍♀️

Not2identifying · 24/10/2024 17:19

@MiscellaneousSupportHuman You're right, sorry, I should have chosen my words with my care - the Spencer tiara was never Diana's. However, I very much doubt the Spencer family mind the Diana association, it will be worth a great deal more because she once wore it! I think continuing that association a couple of generations down the line would probably work for them (as somebody else pointed out, it might be a different earl by then and he might need to raise funds - in the way aristos do, with paying visitors to their estates).

OutwiththeOutCrowd · 24/10/2024 17:39

For me the light dappling Meghan's dress as she entered the chapel and walked down the aisle accompanied by ethereal music made the nature of the dress - apart from it being a generic white wedding dress - almost irrelevant. That's what I remember - that serendipitous play of light that cannot be planned for.

Mind you, there does seem to have been a curious lack of planning in the bits that presumably could be planned for. I would rather like to have been a bluebottle on the wall in the frantic run-up to proceedings.

MalagaNights · 24/10/2024 19:58

Did Diana's sisters wear the Spencer tiara?
Who wore it last?

I wonder why Meghan didn't wear it?