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Where is Harry?

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Rhaidimiddim · 11/10/2024 20:03

Just that.

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IGuessIllbetheFirst · 27/10/2024 08:42

I’m not particularly pro or anti Meghan, I don’t know her and I’m not really interested in her - this goes for the whole british royal family actually.
But I do find the hate for Meghan interesting (and disturbing). Many of the posters here are writing that she didn’t understand the royal family & its role, she didn’t fit well, she took the wrong approach etc etc. She clearly does not want to be part of the royal family or come back to the UK, maybe ever again, so it looks like she has accepted that it didn’t work and is moving on.
So why the continued hate for Meghan? What is the point of that? I just don’t understand why there is an almost obsessive level of hate for her - has she really done anything that awful apart from marry into a family with a very fixed way of behaving, that she was not a good fit for & then got out as soon as she could?

MrsLeonFarrell · 27/10/2024 08:47

Ellmau · 27/10/2024 08:30

I don’t think Harry has ever really thought about the RF in that way, genuinely.

I don't think he's ever thought about anything with any depth.

He seems to be good at practical things like supporting veterans through Invictus or the support Senetebele offers. Where he seems to be less sure is in the areas of the philosophical and political and that's a problem when you are part of a family that is part myth and part political. I can see why he might never have grasped how the royals fit into society, it isn't how he thinks.

Mylovelygreendress · 27/10/2024 08:50

@IGuessIllbetheFirst

I don’t hate Meghan or Harry . People throw the word hate around but - for me anyway - I dislike their behaviour. To do the OW interview while PP was dying was awful and to tell so many lies in the interview was unforgivable.
If Meghan really doesn’t want anything to do with the RF she needs to drop the title , not insist on being called ma’am and stop her children having titles .

MinnieCauldwell · 27/10/2024 08:53

IGuessIllbetheFirst · 27/10/2024 08:42

I’m not particularly pro or anti Meghan, I don’t know her and I’m not really interested in her - this goes for the whole british royal family actually.
But I do find the hate for Meghan interesting (and disturbing). Many of the posters here are writing that she didn’t understand the royal family & its role, she didn’t fit well, she took the wrong approach etc etc. She clearly does not want to be part of the royal family or come back to the UK, maybe ever again, so it looks like she has accepted that it didn’t work and is moving on.
So why the continued hate for Meghan? What is the point of that? I just don’t understand why there is an almost obsessive level of hate for her - has she really done anything that awful apart from marry into a family with a very fixed way of behaving, that she was not a good fit for & then got out as soon as she could?

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I get that but they haven't truly 'moved on' from being royal, they have just set up a different royal court in the US, kept the titles, even for the kids, faux royal tours, entourages royal memblems on web sites. So not moved on but grifting off the institution they so despise. Neither if them would have got their foot in the door at Netfix without that connection. I supported them leaving but hasn't panned out like I thought they wanted.

Mylovelygreendress · 27/10/2024 08:57

@GiveMeSpanakopita

“It's significant that the UK press was hagiographic about Meghan UNTIL she took private flights on Elton John's jet shortly after a speech about climate change “

That trip on Elton’s private jet was shortly after H and M had turned down the late Queen’s invitation to Balmoral saying that it was too far for Archie to travel ! Eyebrows were then raised when they jetted off to Elton’s holiday villa !
Who says no to The Monarch ?

EverybodyLovesString · 27/10/2024 09:01

Harry and Meghan have produced an entire Netflix series about their time in the royal family. Harry wrote a massively successful book. They've both done major interviews.

It would be much stranger if no one was discussing them. They clearly want to be discussed.

ThePoshUns · 27/10/2024 09:09

Interesting celebrity blind with speculation about Harry and Elli Goulding.

x.com/crazydaysposter/status/1849887040890077520?s=46&t=kaPk_AH3Rj8AOqS4peNrrw

Rhaidimiddim · 27/10/2024 09:10

Mylovelygreendress · 27/10/2024 08:50

@IGuessIllbetheFirst

I don’t hate Meghan or Harry . People throw the word hate around but - for me anyway - I dislike their behaviour. To do the OW interview while PP was dying was awful and to tell so many lies in the interview was unforgivable.
If Meghan really doesn’t want anything to do with the RF she needs to drop the title , not insist on being called ma’am and stop her children having titles .

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Thedom · 27/10/2024 09:13

"Hate, hate, hate" 😱😱

Any critique of Meghan is met with the same comments by some posters on here with the same mantra, 'she has moved on, why the 'hate'?

She clearly does not want to be part of the royal family or come back to the UK, maybe ever again, so it looks like she has accepted that it didn’t work and is moving on.

This is the thing, it is not clear at all, on the contrary everything she does portrays the opposite of 'moving on'.

  • Royal title used even for everyday events, despite there being no obligation to use them.
  • Children styled Prince and Princess, despite no obligation to do so.
  • An insignia that looks as Royal as you can get.
  • A Royal type insignia, which is even used on their front doormat, let alone their letterheads, their office of the Duke and Duchess of Sussex, etc etc.

Those are just the tip of the iceberg.

Every thing she does screams the total opposite of not wanting to be a part of Harry's British Royal family connections.

She is a hypocrite and people rightly call her out for it.

MrsFinkelstein · 27/10/2024 09:37

IGuessIllbetheFirst · 27/10/2024 08:42

I’m not particularly pro or anti Meghan, I don’t know her and I’m not really interested in her - this goes for the whole british royal family actually.
But I do find the hate for Meghan interesting (and disturbing). Many of the posters here are writing that she didn’t understand the royal family & its role, she didn’t fit well, she took the wrong approach etc etc. She clearly does not want to be part of the royal family or come back to the UK, maybe ever again, so it looks like she has accepted that it didn’t work and is moving on.
So why the continued hate for Meghan? What is the point of that? I just don’t understand why there is an almost obsessive level of hate for her - has she really done anything that awful apart from marry into a family with a very fixed way of behaving, that she was not a good fit for & then got out as soon as she could?

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I don't hate Meghan, or Harry. I have no respect for them because of their behaviour. It's their behaviour I criticise, in the same way I would anyone who deliberately puts themselves in the public eye for attention. She told lies about situations and circumstances that were easily found out, she lied in court, she bullied and continues to bully staff. He is costing the UK taxpayers thousands in court fees and still wants the UK taxpayers to find 24/7 elite security purely to inflate his ego.

And she absolutely does want to be part of the RF. I'd actually have far more respect for them if they stopped using the titles bestowed on them simply for being part of the RF and hadn't given their children Prince & Princess of the UK titles.

My respect is earned and they've drained a whole ocean of goodwill.

Edit - spelling

BalloonSlayer · 27/10/2024 09:58

BigWillyLittleTodger · 25/10/2024 20:21

I also agree, I don’t think he gives two hoots about his father, just the money he can provide, the mad dash when Charles was diagnosed was for public show, he made sure we all knew about the visit and then he has the audacity to speak about it on Good Morning America (or whatever news show it was), apparently Charles was very disappointed in him doing that, Harry only cares about the cash, he was just in a panic because it is quite likely sadly that William will be King sooner than expected and that will have blindsided him.

I don't think the mad dash was all for show. I think it was because no one will tell Harry anything any more because they don't trust him.
Harry wanted to know what was really going on with his Dad but didn't know any more than the press release. He was obviously worried and in order to find out how his Dad really was he had to see him face to face.

Private Eye have said for a few years now that no one from the RF will discuss anything of importance over the phone with Harry because they don't trust the conversation to not be recorded/listened in to. Face to face is the only way to go.

Mylovelygreendress · 27/10/2024 10:07

BalloonSlayer · 27/10/2024 09:58

I don't think the mad dash was all for show. I think it was because no one will tell Harry anything any more because they don't trust him.
Harry wanted to know what was really going on with his Dad but didn't know any more than the press release. He was obviously worried and in order to find out how his Dad really was he had to see him face to face.

Private Eye have said for a few years now that no one from the RF will discuss anything of importance over the phone with Harry because they don't trust the conversation to not be recorded/listened in to. Face to face is the only way to go.

Was Harry not due to attend some event later that week and clearly thought it wouldn’t look good if he was seen living it up while his father was dealing with his cancer diagnosis.
I agree that he isn’t being told anything . The fact that he and Meghan only found d out about Catherine’s cancer at the same time as the rest of the world speaks volumes.

Needanewname42 · 27/10/2024 10:08

Mylovelygreendress · 27/10/2024 08:57

@GiveMeSpanakopita

“It's significant that the UK press was hagiographic about Meghan UNTIL she took private flights on Elton John's jet shortly after a speech about climate change “

That trip on Elton’s private jet was shortly after H and M had turned down the late Queen’s invitation to Balmoral saying that it was too far for Archie to travel ! Eyebrows were then raised when they jetted off to Elton’s holiday villa !
Who says no to The Monarch ?

Yes it's the total say one thing, do another that makes them intriguing.
And trying to workout the hidden agenda. What's the real reason they turned down the invite?
The Scottish weather, would rather have 121 time with HMQ than let her enjoy seeing the brood have fun together?

I'm sure some of the more switched on members of the RF suspected she wasn't after Harry but after the status he would bring very early on in the whole relationship.

Needanewname42 · 27/10/2024 10:12

BalloonSlayer · 27/10/2024 09:58

I don't think the mad dash was all for show. I think it was because no one will tell Harry anything any more because they don't trust him.
Harry wanted to know what was really going on with his Dad but didn't know any more than the press release. He was obviously worried and in order to find out how his Dad really was he had to see him face to face.

Private Eye have said for a few years now that no one from the RF will discuss anything of importance over the phone with Harry because they don't trust the conversation to not be recorded/listened in to. Face to face is the only way to go.

That makes a lot more sense to me. I can't imagine it just being for show.

Charles cancer type has never been revealed. I don't think Kates has either. I assume Harry knows and I wonder if it's a test - will Harry keep his mouth shut?

LaMarschallin · 27/10/2024 10:17

I thought Charles has prostate cancer?

MrsFinkelstein · 27/10/2024 10:19

LaMarschallin · 27/10/2024 10:17

I thought Charles has prostate cancer?

He had a benign enlarged prostate, it was while he was getting treatment for that they discovered the cancer. It's apparently not prostate cancer but they've never said what it is.

According to the BBC.
BBC News - What do we know about the King's cancer diagnosis?
www.bbc.com/news/health-68203457

LaMarschallin · 27/10/2024 10:21

Ah! Right.
Thanks, MrsFinkelstein.

Rhaidimiddim · 27/10/2024 11:02

BalloonSlayer · 27/10/2024 09:58

I don't think the mad dash was all for show. I think it was because no one will tell Harry anything any more because they don't trust him.
Harry wanted to know what was really going on with his Dad but didn't know any more than the press release. He was obviously worried and in order to find out how his Dad really was he had to see him face to face.

Private Eye have said for a few years now that no one from the RF will discuss anything of importance over the phone with Harry because they don't trust the conversation to not be recorded/listened in to. Face to face is the only way to go.

He also has a Las Vegas award-presenting gig a few days later, if he had gone to that and not to see his Dad, it would have been a very bad look. So, a self-seeking move.

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Rhaidimiddim · 27/10/2024 11:04

Mylovelygreendress · 27/10/2024 10:07

Was Harry not due to attend some event later that week and clearly thought it wouldn’t look good if he was seen living it up while his father was dealing with his cancer diagnosis.
I agree that he isn’t being told anything . The fact that he and Meghan only found d out about Catherine’s cancer at the same time as the rest of the world speaks volumes.

Cross-post. I think it was an NFL awards thingie, where he was already getting flak as to why a British prince, who has only been in the country for 5 minutes, was chosen to present the award instead of an American.

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BunnyLake · 27/10/2024 11:23

His 25th hottest man really did give me a good laugh. I mean really, could anyone imagine him as he is now as hot 😂 He might have got away with that 15 year’s ago but no way today.

AutumnMagpies · 27/10/2024 11:24

Ellmau · 27/10/2024 08:30

I don’t think Harry has ever really thought about the RF in that way, genuinely.

I don't think he's ever thought about anything with any depth.

Very true.

IGuessIllbetheFirst · 27/10/2024 11:45

But if Harry wants to continue with all the royal stuff, names for his children and his charities etc then I guess he can, he is still a Prince after all @MrsFinkelstein? I would guess it would be difficult to renounce all of that, it is his identity. And I understand that people might think badly of him for leaving the royal family but I also think it all needs to be modernised similar to the Scandinavian royal families where they get to have some privacy (and less money from the state I think).

I just don’t get why all the hatred for Meghan - and yes I really think it is hatred at a level that is out of proportion to what she has actually done. I thought that when Jeremy Clarkson said those things about her and still think it now. When you look at what Andrew has possibly done - where are all the threads about him?

EverybodyLovesString · 27/10/2024 12:01

What is there to discuss about Prince Andrew? Everyone has essentially the same opinion about him - he’s a spoiled, unpleasant man who behaves terribly. He’s also barely seen these days. What would multiple threads about him look like? “Everyone still agree we don’t like Prince Andrew? Oh good. See you tomorrow everyone.”

Harry and Meghan get multiple threads because they’re doing things to court attention, they’re launching projects, travelling, giving interviews and, most importantly, people have a range of opinions about them which makes a thread interesting.

FloofPaws · 27/10/2024 12:01

BunnyLake · 27/10/2024 11:23

His 25th hottest man really did give me a good laugh. I mean really, could anyone imagine him as he is now as hot 😂 He might have got away with that 15 year’s ago but no way today.

He went from looking like a boy child to a grumpy old man in a few short years!

Fugliest · 27/10/2024 12:04

Needanewname42 · 27/10/2024 10:12

That makes a lot more sense to me. I can't imagine it just being for show.

Charles cancer type has never been revealed. I don't think Kates has either. I assume Harry knows and I wonder if it's a test - will Harry keep his mouth shut?

Charles cancer type has never been revealed. I don't think Kates has either. I assume Harry knows and I wonder if it's a test - will Harry keep his mouth shut?

I assume he doesnt know of either cancer types - hence the supposedly only 15min meeting.

He had just recently shared publicly a private interaction between A&L and KC3 with the media that KC3 was apparently upset about.

PH has shown that he has zero boundaries and that he cannot be trusted.