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The revolving EXIT door of employees chez Sussex continues

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Thedom · 04/10/2024 05:51

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-13922531/Meghan-Markle-Prince-Harry-global-press-secretary-announces-major-job-change.html

Ashley was approached by other clients who were seeking the high-quality counsel she has provided to the Sussexes.

'High quality counsel' that's a bit of a stretch! she should have left when she originally quit, they clearly paid her to stay on at that time.

It's really lousy timing for this announcement, immediately after the employee bullying disclosures, and the spin they are trying to put on it is amusing. Likely the retention package expired at a very inconvenient time and she was not staying a minute longer as their employee.

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Puzzledandpissedoff · 05/10/2024 11:45

WME (the PR company that supposedly represents Meghan) held a big event after the Emmys and they weren't invited

I didn't know about that either, @cheezncrackers, and if they didn't expect to be invited automatically because of their TV appearances I'd have thought they'd try to wangle an invite anyway

Even if there wasn't the TV association people like WME often invite those they just wantt to schmooze - except it seems they may no longer be interested in H&M

meercat23 · 05/10/2024 11:47

EdithWeston · 05/10/2024 11:20

This is how KateGate grew - people widely assumed that the press must ‘know something’ and were publishing hints.

I hope they’re not separating - but even if they are, this is something they should be left to sort out in private and announce at a time of their choosing.

Whats behind the current speculation - nothing more than some solo engagements over a few weeks, a heap of SM speculation and SEO driven MSN

Well said. I was disgusted at the Kate Gate coverage and don't like the speculation about M&H any better.

Comment on what they do or say is justified but some of the speculation, especially in the press, is almost wishing them apart. Not nce.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 05/10/2024 12:04

I hope they’re not separating - but even if they are, this is something they should be left to sort out in private and announce at a time of their choosing

I agree completely, @EdithWeston, and it's the reason I try to avoid speculating about a divorce

Admittedly it's hard not to notice the obvious angst, but as with the rest of the RF none of us know what goes on behind closed doors and nor should we

All that said I'd also hope the couple themselves would keep quiet about purely private matters, but unfortunately that's not the case

cheezncrackers · 05/10/2024 12:18

I have no desire to see them separate, but I think commenting on the words spoken by friends, associates and sources to the press is fair game.

There are many other words that the California source could have used rather the word 'space' to describe why Harry has travelled to NYC, London and Lesotho without his wife by his side. They could have said that this is Harry choosing to focus back on his own passion projects, that these are things that are personally close to his heart, that Meghan is busy with her own projects, that they've decided that as much as possible one parent will always stay with their kids - some of all of which may be true. But no, that person said that Harry 'wants space'. It's an interesting thing to have said and it does invite speculation.

Twistybranch · 05/10/2024 12:20

AskingQuestions45 · 05/10/2024 08:18

The lip gloss thing was also massively overstepping boundaries, as was expecting Kate to take her shopping just because Kate was going herself.
She just has to insert herself everywhere . Being heard and having a voice is really just dominating and overpowering everyone else. She does it everywhere. Absolutely everything has to be about her at all times .

Completely agree. She was testing Kate

cheezncrackers · 05/10/2024 12:41

Another possibility is that H&M's PR teams are softening up the public for a separation announcement by flying solo and separating their lives so that that announcement, when it comes, is no particular surprise to anyone who's been concentrating and therefore doesn't generate too much hullaballoo.

It's a well-used strategy by celeb couples. How many times have we seen photos of X & Y out solo, followed by an announcement that actually they've been separated for months already? The most recent is JLo and Ben.

Twistybranch · 05/10/2024 12:42

Well you lot are all much better people than I am.

I couldn’t care less if they split. And if completely honest, a little schadenfreude. Although not completely heartless, so wouldn’t want the kids to have their parents split!!

However, He sold out his family and his country for cash to prove his love. They made a docu about their ‘love story’ sold for millions to Netflix.

They commercialised their relationship, acting as if theirs was better than everyone else’s. William married not for love remember, only Harry married for love. They move together like salt and pepper, they are like the twined palm trees, only they know how to work together (his family can’t)

And now we see that on his birthday….he was away with the lads.

There’s something going on, not sure what. But at some point, they will split. They rushed into marriage, rushed megxit, he has significant MH issues and he is estranged from friends and family. It was never going to work long term.

For as controlling that I think Meghan can be, I think Harry can be sullen and mood prone and that she must have a difficult time trying to placidate him. I think he needs a lot of attention. They aren’t in the honeymoon phase where all her attention was going, when she would have been focused on getting engaged and then getting him over to the US. Shes now got her beautiful home in California, she’s busy: she’s got two kids, multiple businesses she trying to start, women led businesses to invest in, employees to buy dog leashes for and fruit baskets to fill. On top of all these PR puff pieces she putting out about how she’s so kind.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13927157/prince-harry-birthday-hiking-friends-meghan.html

Prince Harry 'spent the night of his 40th birthday away from Meghan'

The Duke of Sussex took off on a hiking trip to celebrate the landmark age milestone and made no mention of his wife in his birthday thanks message.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13927157/prince-harry-birthday-hiking-friends-meghan.html

JADS · 05/10/2024 12:45

H&M's propaganda machine has always given us the narrative of an inseparable couple, a fated love story like no other. Harry's comparison of his and William's marriages in Spare was unpleasant and would I imagine have hurt Catherine deeply.

I won't speculate on their marriage, but the latest 'separate projects" PR is very much at odds with their previous image. What I'm hoping is that they have realised that the constant togetherness is unnecessary, damaging even to their projects.

Mylovelygreendress · 05/10/2024 12:46

@Twistybranch i also think they will split and I think the fallout will make Megxit look like a stroll in the park . I just wonder about those children who could become the centre of a cross Atlantic wrangle.

WatchOutMissMarpleIsAbout · 05/10/2024 12:49

i agree to a degree @EdithWeston

however they sold everyone their perfect love story so people will speculate when the narrative or actions change a bit.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 05/10/2024 13:02

I have no desire to see them separate, but I think commenting on the words spoken by friends, associates and sources to the press is fair game

In general I'd leave out the unnamed "sources" but add on what the couple themselves have said and done (or not) and one of the things it's difficult to ignore is that AFAIK Harry's made absolutely no reference to his wife in recent engagements, even to say she's sorry not to be here but sends her best wishes

Hard not to wonder if he's trying to disassociate himself from her behaviour, but if that's the case he'd do well to reflect on his own - though as a member of the RF I realise that may be like wishing for the moon

cheezncrackers · 05/10/2024 13:02

They commercialised their relationship, acting as if theirs was better than everyone else’s. William married not for love remember, only Harry married for love. They move together like salt and pepper, they are like the twined palm trees, only they know how to work together (his family can’t)

Yeah, but this kind of shit is always touted by the people whose relationships are built on sand. Look at your social media feed. Who are the couples that constantly proclaim their love for one another, who never fail to photograph and upload the lovely things that their partner does for them? That are always doing something flashy to celebrate broadcasting it to all and sundry? The ones who don't feel secure, that's who. The secure couples who've been together for ages and will almost certainly last the distance simply don't feel the need to performatively declare their love for so-and-so. And as for selling your 'love story' to the highest bidder while trashing your family at the same time, well time will tell who has the more secure union!

BigWillyLittleTodger · 05/10/2024 13:09

I do get fed up of posters complaining about others speculating on their marriage, Harry and Meghan have sold their “love story” from day one, starting with the spooning bananas and Meghan’s Vanity Fair “Wild about Harry”interview and then post marriage books, interviews and a six part reality series all for the mighty dollar, anyone who publicly declares 2 trees wrapped together represents their love is absolutely fair game for public comment, their relationship has been up for sale and for public consumption from day one through their own words and actions and just because the wind is now blowing the other way we are expected not to speculate?, sorry but it doesn’t work like that.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 05/10/2024 13:10

What I'm hoping is that they have realised that the constant togetherness is unnecessary, damaging even to their projects

That makes perfect sense @JADS, but it leaves the question of how Meghan - for whom it's turned out that her only claim to fame is a very visible association with Harry's royalness - will feel about it

Of course it's something else we may never know, but while it's no cause to start insisting "she'll divorce him" I personally can't imagine her being pleased at this exclusion from the limelight

DojaPhat · 05/10/2024 13:20

Mylovelygreendress · 05/10/2024 12:46

@Twistybranch i also think they will split and I think the fallout will make Megxit look like a stroll in the park . I just wonder about those children who could become the centre of a cross Atlantic wrangle.

What I find wild about comments like these is that people genuinely hope for this, but in a visceral way, almost like it's real to them. Your comment re "I just wonder about those children..." - really does sound as though you'd take annual leave and cancel plans with friends/family just to make sure you didn't miss a single news break or tweet.

And this comment above:
There’s something going on, not sure what. But at some point, they will split. They rushed into marriage, rushed megxit, he has significant MH issues and he is estranged from friends and family. It was never going to work long term.

I mean, people really need to touch grass. Maybe start by opening the curtains.

Allthegoodnamesarechosen · 05/10/2024 13:24

I know it is de rigueur to blame Meghan for the whole horrible mess, but I think with Harry she was pushing at an open door. He’s now bored, fed up, Meghan has not ‘delivered’ the perfect glittering Hollywood life…so he will be off for pastures new.

He will probably emerge from this with more ‘sympathy’ than Meghan because he is a) a man and b) a member of the most famous family in the world. I just hope that family remember how untrustworthy, disloyal and malicious he has shown himself to be.

Words · 05/10/2024 13:24

I wonder if the gushing from both parties is some sort of pre arranged contrivance. It all sounds terribly Markle to me.

Let's not forget H came into his inheritance last month. Was probably worth her wait.

Twistybranch · 05/10/2024 13:28

cheezncrackers · 05/10/2024 13:02

They commercialised their relationship, acting as if theirs was better than everyone else’s. William married not for love remember, only Harry married for love. They move together like salt and pepper, they are like the twined palm trees, only they know how to work together (his family can’t)

Yeah, but this kind of shit is always touted by the people whose relationships are built on sand. Look at your social media feed. Who are the couples that constantly proclaim their love for one another, who never fail to photograph and upload the lovely things that their partner does for them? That are always doing something flashy to celebrate broadcasting it to all and sundry? The ones who don't feel secure, that's who. The secure couples who've been together for ages and will almost certainly last the distance simply don't feel the need to performatively declare their love for so-and-so. And as for selling your 'love story' to the highest bidder while trashing your family at the same time, well time will tell who has the more secure union!

True!

If H&M renew their vows….we know they’re screwed

Twistybranch · 05/10/2024 13:30

Allthegoodnamesarechosen · 05/10/2024 13:24

I know it is de rigueur to blame Meghan for the whole horrible mess, but I think with Harry she was pushing at an open door. He’s now bored, fed up, Meghan has not ‘delivered’ the perfect glittering Hollywood life…so he will be off for pastures new.

He will probably emerge from this with more ‘sympathy’ than Meghan because he is a) a man and b) a member of the most famous family in the world. I just hope that family remember how untrustworthy, disloyal and malicious he has shown himself to be.

Agree, he never had the wherewithal on his own, he needed her to drive it through for him

Twistybranch · 05/10/2024 13:32

DojaPhat · 05/10/2024 13:20

What I find wild about comments like these is that people genuinely hope for this, but in a visceral way, almost like it's real to them. Your comment re "I just wonder about those children..." - really does sound as though you'd take annual leave and cancel plans with friends/family just to make sure you didn't miss a single news break or tweet.

And this comment above:
There’s something going on, not sure what. But at some point, they will split. They rushed into marriage, rushed megxit, he has significant MH issues and he is estranged from friends and family. It was never going to work long term.

I mean, people really need to touch grass. Maybe start by opening the curtains.

Thanks for the great advice 👍

Frolicking on the grass as we speak

AskingQuestions45 · 05/10/2024 13:37

If they’d kept a low profile, kept their private life private and not behaved like The Greatest Love Story Ever Told people wouldn’t be as fascinated by them. They’ve kind of set themselves up to fail because of their need for attention and self absorption. No one wants anyone to split up, particularly if children are involved, but they’ve been so totally dysfunctional from the start it’s not surprising if it all comes unstuck.

Mylovelygreendress · 05/10/2024 13:43

DojaPhat · 05/10/2024 13:20

What I find wild about comments like these is that people genuinely hope for this, but in a visceral way, almost like it's real to them. Your comment re "I just wonder about those children..." - really does sound as though you'd take annual leave and cancel plans with friends/family just to make sure you didn't miss a single news break or tweet.

And this comment above:
There’s something going on, not sure what. But at some point, they will split. They rushed into marriage, rushed megxit, he has significant MH issues and he is estranged from friends and family. It was never going to work long term.

I mean, people really need to touch grass. Maybe start by opening the curtains.

Well I never said I hoped they will separate, I said I think they will . No need for me to take annual leave as I am long retired !
However am going out soon so will make sure I err touch grass . Oh and curtains are wide open .
Are you ok ?

Twistybranch · 05/10/2024 13:45

AskingQuestions45 · 05/10/2024 13:37

If they’d kept a low profile, kept their private life private and not behaved like The Greatest Love Story Ever Told people wouldn’t be as fascinated by them. They’ve kind of set themselves up to fail because of their need for attention and self absorption. No one wants anyone to split up, particularly if children are involved, but they’ve been so totally dysfunctional from the start it’s not surprising if it all comes unstuck.

True and reminds me of the greatest love story never told….JLO and Ben. Look at how gushing she was about their love. She had to prove to everybody….now they are divorcing

MissRoseDurward · 05/10/2024 13:49

He’s now bored, fed up, Meghan has not ‘delivered’ the perfect glittering Hollywood life…so he will be off for pastures new.

Did he ever really want a perfect glittering Hollywood life? Or was it a case of what Meghan wants, Meghan gets?

Not surprised if he's bored; I suspect he always would be outside a structured environment like the Army, because he lacks the intellectual drive to educate and occupy himself.