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The revolving EXIT door of employees chez Sussex continues

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Thedom · 04/10/2024 05:51

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-13922531/Meghan-Markle-Prince-Harry-global-press-secretary-announces-major-job-change.html

Ashley was approached by other clients who were seeking the high-quality counsel she has provided to the Sussexes.

'High quality counsel' that's a bit of a stretch! she should have left when she originally quit, they clearly paid her to stay on at that time.

It's really lousy timing for this announcement, immediately after the employee bullying disclosures, and the spin they are trying to put on it is amusing. Likely the retention package expired at a very inconvenient time and she was not staying a minute longer as their employee.

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Zippedydodah · 07/10/2024 09:07

I guess having the children with them on visits etc would detract the attention from the Sussexes 🤷🏼‍♀️

Needanewname42 · 07/10/2024 09:08

@WondrousMoringPuertoRico that is very true. The kids will regret not knowing their Dads family and their cousins.

HMQ made sure all the DGC knew one another and had time together.

I can't remember if it was William or Harry but their last phone call with their Mum they cut it short because they wanted to get back to playing with big cousin Peter.

WondrousMoringPuertoRico · 07/10/2024 09:20

And I think a potential source of embarrassment and shame in the future. Their cousin will be King one day and their cousins and second cousins will all be involved in the ceremony and pageantry that surrounds that and will have each other to rely upon to navigate the public scrutiny of these situations.

At this point it seems unlikely that either of Harry's children will be attending any such public events. In some ways this 'protects; them but in other ways it will be so weird for them to have this whole other side to their family, their own heritage - and they are just strangers and spectators to it all. I would have thought that would be difficult as a teenager or young adult. There may be anger towards the parents. Their choice has been removed.

Needanewname42 · 07/10/2024 09:38

Yes exactly their choice has been removed. Even all the small learning opportunities have been removed. Standing on the balcony, being at their Grampa's Coronation, ie getting used to being seen in public.

I'm sure when Harry decided to go to the US he was thinking it would be decades before his brother was King 🤴 and I really don't think it will be.

theemptinessmachine · 07/10/2024 09:39

WondrousMoringPuertoRico · 07/10/2024 08:37

This scenario reminds me so much of someone I worked for. She would veer from being over the top nice to being almost demonic. It was the most incredibly stressful work experience of my life - the sheer uncertainty as to what version of the person you would get.

Micro management to extreme - standing behind you when you are on the phone telling you what to say, so you end up not being able to hear anyone at all. Calls at all hours but then vast stretches of time when you needed to speak to her but she was just 'missing'. Then that would be your fault when something was done in her absence. Always the wrong thing. Then other times sort of over stepping boundaries with 'kindness'. Just too too much, all the time.

I ended up going on extended sick leave - for unrelated reasons but I honestly think it was my body taking me out of the situation.

I have a strong sense that she is this kind of boss. She won't see it - my boss never did. They think buying everyone cakes on a Friday makes them wonderful.

You've actually reminded me of a female boss I had when I was much younger. She gave you the appearance of a very concerned boss but she was literally everywhere watching- around corners etc. She introduced a system whereby you had to go to a specific area to check your messages 4 times a day ( pre email days) and they were colour coded so that you could see it as you approached as could everyone else. Looking back now I see how toxic she was. I actually still have dreams that I haven't checked my messages in days/weeks 😳

theemptinessmachine · 07/10/2024 09:46

Needanewname42 · 07/10/2024 07:27

I doubt it too.
I just don't think people are that interested in the kids, therefore it wouldn't sell magazines so just not worth the photographers time.

There are plenty celebrities who's kids are never seen.

I actually think the opposite. Meghan has created a lurid interest in her children that wouldn't be there otherwise because of her allegations of Archie not being given a title because of his colour ( and this before her he was even born) Harry has spoken about Lillibet's eye colour. Many famous people have children and they are never photographed but the parents don't blab on about them at every public opportunity. It creates a curiosity. What do they look like?

Stopbeingawalkoverandwalk · 07/10/2024 10:30

NotTram · 06/10/2024 22:09

Looking at that people article I laugh how they say she is a hero for recycling the gown.nope no income yo buy a new one. She also looks terrible
Dress didn't fit boobs then and still doesn't.

I think she has decided the shape and cut of the Johanna Ortiz dress she's worn 3 times in different patterns (gold, palm, Aztec) really suits her and gives her a more defined waist and the impression of curves and makes the best of her shoulders - I don't necessarily disagree with this, the Aztec dress she wore in Colombia I thought looked good (albeit inappropriate for the occasion).

I think she's tried to adapt the red dress to look like those dresses, but it doesn't work. The other dresses have very well shaped cups that fit her just right and a hint of clavicle in the peep hole, but nothing too revealing. The slit up the front is not to my taste, but it's just about ok. But with the red dress, there's too much chest area exposed in that cleavage plunge, it's too deep when there's a matching deep front split, it looks cheap and nasty. The boob cups are far too big, giving the impression of saggy boobs when she has very petite and probably perky ones, and the badly the formed darts give an inverted nipple impression. Coupled with the big hair, it's just a bit too Showgirls rather than sophisticated duchess.

Stopbeingawalkoverandwalk · 07/10/2024 10:32

The picture of Meghan with the family was at Meghan's request, judging by the footage, and she looked none too pleased to be asking rather than being asked. Interestingly, Meghan also posed on the red carpet with someone who used to represent her from Sunshine Sachs. I wonder if that relationship is about to be reactivated (if it was ever deactivated).

WondrousMoringPuertoRico · 07/10/2024 10:35

They could be living a life similar to the Duke and Duchess of Edinburgh and their children. Their children are hardly in the press at all - only when attending public events and only in a sort of 'Hello' magazine in passing, nothing salacious. They have had the benefit of very close relationships with the rest of the Royals but seem to be living quite ordinary lives - part time jobs in a garden centre, left alone at Uni.

The Sussexes have largely created the melodrama that surrounds them. They have both isolated themselves and simultaneously put themselves on centre stage - with controversial interviews, tv shows etc. I think Harry is partially coming to regret this - but it seems too late in the day now. No one would trust them at family events and the losers are the children who will grow up only knowing family dysfunction.

CoffeeCantata · 07/10/2024 11:00

WondrousMoringPuertoRico · 07/10/2024 10:35

They could be living a life similar to the Duke and Duchess of Edinburgh and their children. Their children are hardly in the press at all - only when attending public events and only in a sort of 'Hello' magazine in passing, nothing salacious. They have had the benefit of very close relationships with the rest of the Royals but seem to be living quite ordinary lives - part time jobs in a garden centre, left alone at Uni.

The Sussexes have largely created the melodrama that surrounds them. They have both isolated themselves and simultaneously put themselves on centre stage - with controversial interviews, tv shows etc. I think Harry is partially coming to regret this - but it seems too late in the day now. No one would trust them at family events and the losers are the children who will grow up only knowing family dysfunction.

I really hope they will not trust him again. What they do as a family is their business, but I would go on a protest march if he was re-admitted to the fold and given an offical role. He cannot be trusted and he's done too much damage.

cheezncrackers · 07/10/2024 11:32

I agree it's really sad for the kids not to know their family. They are growing up with just their parents and Doria - that's it. They have the impression that they are members of a very small family indeed and yet they are part of two big families. On Meghan's side they have a grandad, aunt, uncle, cousins - and in the UK their grandad is the king! They have all the RF with masses of cousins around their age and they have the whole Spencer clan too, who while Harry speaks to that side of the family his kids have never met them. It's a travesty, quite honestly. Those poor DC are growing up with no sense of the fact that they're half British, half royal, and part of a huge, extended family.

WondrousMoringPuertoRico · 07/10/2024 11:54

I think the older you get the more you come to realise the importance of family, your heritage, where you come from. Harry is just turning 40, I don't think it has hit him yet. His father is not going to be around forever, once he is gone, he is gone. Same for Meghan but I get the sense she can be quite clinical about moving on.

When Charles dies I think Harry will massively regret the distance he has put between them and in particular that his children have had no personal relationship with their grandfather. He has completely burned bridges with his brother. And for what? This shallow, tinsel town existence.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 07/10/2024 12:21

WatchOutMissMarpleIsAbout · 07/10/2024 06:52

But Meghan would be nothing without Harry! How can her fans not see that. She’s only a duchess because Harry is a royal prince. I don’t get how some people come be so dim.

Maybe it's just believing what they want to believe - hence the constant repetition of claims already shown to be false?

Most of us will happily put our hands up if we've got it wrong, appreciate the difference between fact and opinion, or at least be honest about what we simply can't know, but I guess that isn't be easy for those who've thrown so much into their admiration of this pair

Glooop · 07/10/2024 15:10

theemptinessmachine · 07/10/2024 09:46

I actually think the opposite. Meghan has created a lurid interest in her children that wouldn't be there otherwise because of her allegations of Archie not being given a title because of his colour ( and this before her he was even born) Harry has spoken about Lillibet's eye colour. Many famous people have children and they are never photographed but the parents don't blab on about them at every public opportunity. It creates a curiosity. What do they look like?

They were happy to show off Alfie in tha bath for the doc?

MM will monetise her as well as use them to soften her tarnished image as the 'relatable Mom' at local events (to align with her cooking show image and ARO).

I suspect this is where the apparent discord between H&M and the kids exposure is coming from - he wants to keep them private (she said she did too) - but now she needs to exploit them for personal gain .... $$$ & her brand reputation.

I suspect she will have them rolled out soon for pumpkins / halloween / Thanksgiving / Christmas - playing the the snow at winter Invictus....

Needanewname42 · 07/10/2024 15:20

WondrousMoringPuertoRico · 07/10/2024 10:35

They could be living a life similar to the Duke and Duchess of Edinburgh and their children. Their children are hardly in the press at all - only when attending public events and only in a sort of 'Hello' magazine in passing, nothing salacious. They have had the benefit of very close relationships with the rest of the Royals but seem to be living quite ordinary lives - part time jobs in a garden centre, left alone at Uni.

The Sussexes have largely created the melodrama that surrounds them. They have both isolated themselves and simultaneously put themselves on centre stage - with controversial interviews, tv shows etc. I think Harry is partially coming to regret this - but it seems too late in the day now. No one would trust them at family events and the losers are the children who will grow up only knowing family dysfunction.

They absolutely could have had that lifestyle BUT that involves doing the boring royal jobs and serving those higher up the pecking order.

I know lots claim the Royals don't work but they do and it's probably not easy to constantly be meeting people and making that moment special for the people you are meeting.

Words · 07/10/2024 15:24

Loads of "shade" in that People piece.

I think they are definitely saying she shoe horned herself into that event at the last minute, stayed only for the pix, and left.

That dress looks appalling and what on Earth has happened to her face?

StrawberryWasp · 07/10/2024 15:38

The Duke and Duchess of Edinburgh's children are hardly in the press because there is an agreement beteeen the royal family and the British press that royal children are not photographed in their private lives.
We only see the POWs children when they decide to either take them to an official event or invite the press to take photos or supply their own photos for print.

The press don't hang around trying to get photos of them going for play dates, at the shops, or going to brownies/ whatever. They've agreed not to.

I don't think any such agreement could be made with the US media. Why would they agree to that?

H and M's children would have been able to have a more normal life with more privacy if they'd stayed in the UK.

And of course there's interest in the children and photos would be published if they had them, partly becaus they;ve been so hidden. I'm sure everyone would quickly lose interst in the 43rd photos of Lili getting out the car to go into the book shop, but right now when they seem to have disappeared, there would be interest.

Mylovelygreendress · 07/10/2024 16:20

Remember when M said that Archie wouldn’t be able to go to school in the UK as there would always be photographers at the school gate ? Absolute rubbish.

JADS · 07/10/2024 16:32

Archie and Lili are still really young. I wouldn't expect to see them at any events just yet. Louis was 5 at the Jubliee and was a bit excited. For the coronation a year later, he was much better behaved purely because he was that bit older.

Equally I just don't think the world is that interested in them.

Glooop · 07/10/2024 16:38

Equally I just don't think the world is that interested in them.

MM wouldn't be able to comprehend that as narcs DCs are extra-special didnt you know? ..... 'they are amazing' - as she drawled wistfully sat next to the bereaved parents who had lost their own children to suicide.

Spectre8 · 07/10/2024 16:57

Twistybranch · 07/10/2024 16:41

This is quite interesting

The DM have put together a timeline of how little time they’ve spent together

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13932773/sussexes-solo-timeline-harry-meghan-events.html

Bizarre, there are plenty of days invrtween they will have been together as in not in the same place/state/country.

Take for example he went to LV which is a few hours drive from where they are so what overnight stop at most then ba k home. 6 days together and they both go to Canada then back home and at end of Feb he is ina video call which most lkkley from his house...so most of Feb they were together then. That doesn't exactly fit the narrative of spending little time together.

Other months are the same where they have quite a weeks together.

Talk about trying to make something out of nothing

Twistybranch · 07/10/2024 17:06

Spectre8 · 07/10/2024 16:57

Bizarre, there are plenty of days invrtween they will have been together as in not in the same place/state/country.

Take for example he went to LV which is a few hours drive from where they are so what overnight stop at most then ba k home. 6 days together and they both go to Canada then back home and at end of Feb he is ina video call which most lkkley from his house...so most of Feb they were together then. That doesn't exactly fit the narrative of spending little time together.

Other months are the same where they have quite a weeks together.

Talk about trying to make something out of nothing

That she’s been filming a tv show and he’s supposed to be working on his projects. So they wouldnt be together sitting at home, passing the salt and pepper would they.

He's been away for weeks now. This is embarrassing for a couple that made a tv show stating they were inseparable.

Twistybranch · 07/10/2024 17:19

Ashley, sorry the attendee, telling us how wonderful and approachable meghan was :

https://people.com/meghan-markle-has-relatable-moment-with-mom-at-childrens-hospital-la-gala-8724154

we are also told this:

At the Oct. 5 event, Meghan sat with CHLA CEO Paul S. Viviano and at the same table as Jimmy Kimmel and wife Molly McNearny.

Strangely no photos though of her at the table………at all. Official or otherwise. Which is strange because we are repeatly told she was so approachable and taking lots of selfies with whomever asked.

Meghan Markle Has ‘Relatable’ Moment with Mom at Children’s Hospital L.A. Gala: ‘It Was Incredibly Sweet’

During her unexpected appearance at the Children’s Hospital Los Angeles 2024 Gala on Oct. 5, Meghan Markle had a “relatable” moment with a fellow mom, whose daughter Ella once battled cancer. The Duchess of Sussex is mom to Prince Archie and Princess L...

https://people.com/meghan-markle-has-relatable-moment-with-mom-at-childrens-hospital-la-gala-8724154

JSMill · 07/10/2024 17:22

Someone on X said there isn't a single picture of her inside the event. It looks like she wasn't actually attending the event and simply walked on the red carpet and left. That's so desperate.