Continuing HR article, Netflix

[Twistybranch]

See all these wise posters, lots of what we have said has been ‘confirmed’ by other sources

article in the DM:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/royals/article-13874743/Harry-Meghan-Hollywood-turns-Sussexes-ALISON-BOSHOFF-venom-schadenfreude.html

https://archive.ph/xgEdv

One senior Hollywood publicist tells me: 'First of all, everyone industry-wide, EVERYONE reads The Hollywood Reporter. It's really striking that WME did not stop this running.'
She adds: 'WME normally – you would think – would have been threatening and denying access to other stars. Was this done here?

Thats exactly what we all thought! it’s strange how they are letting this stuff out.

As we have all seen in recent days, the dark art of covering up and killing stories- look at Al Fayed and what he got away with. So WME have done nothing???

Also, Harry attending an event in his own because Meghan is sick. No. This is part of separating their ‘brands’- I doubt she will attend any future events like these with Harry.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13875773/sick-meghan-markle-prince-harry-kevin-costner-charity-event.html

Seems like the wheels are falling off to me!

No just a shit parent

I think you are right.

The DC are 5 and 3 and they have had one parent with them nearly all the time. That Harry has a spate of engagements that involve travel right now isn't going to be particularly hard on the DC, who are at home with their mother. And he has been, as far as anyone knows, present all the rest of the time.

The times when both parents have been away is much smaller - tours (a week, twice), time around the death of ERII (unplanned) and perhaps some holidays.

I think it's unfair to suggest that that is poor parenting. It's really not that long, and provided you have arranged for your DC to be well cared for by an appropriate person, it's not going to wreck either the DC's psyches or the parents' parenting skills

It is poor parenting.

Parenting requires you to be there when you can. Many have jobs that take them away- offshore, armed services. But these are highly skilled jobs, that require you to be away. There’s no options to hop on a private jet home- you’re told where to go, when and for how long. It’s a sacrifice for these families,

Nothing requires him to be away for weeks, particularly when he has a team of staff and millions in the bank. They could arrange his schedule so that he’s away a couple of days every few weeks. Not weeks on end.

They are small children, weeks away is a long time for them

I don't believe Harry, or Meghan are shit parents. They might be a lot of things but they aren't that.

Remember even when Kate was well she'd get slated for being a lazy royal with less engagements than some others. She's clearly trying to be around for their kids.

I don’t believe Meghan is a shit parent at all

POW (pre ill health) has been criticised for only undertaking engagements within a 50 mile radius of home, which in some ways is fair. She is a future Queen. But, people recognise she’s raising 3 children, one who will be king, and support her looking after her kids and being a good mum.

How do we know that Meghan is at home ? For all we know she could be away on holiday with friends ? Or at a health spa ?

That's sad if true .

I don’t think anyone knows enough about them to know if they are good parents. I do think their children’s lives must be a bit odd though. They seem to be living in a very protected bubble, not meeting any family but Doria, not having normal childhood experiences . It’ll be a curse when they get older that their parents are such controversial figures.

We don't. But neither do we know she isn't.

So it's a case of what's most likely. That she is with her DC, or that she's away from home, location and purpose unknown?

Their environmental impact must be equal to an entire town of normal people in the UK. And yet he preaches and accepts awards.

Exactly.

I'm going to go waaaay off topic here but as I was scrolling through the thread I just saw this Virgin ad. Are they serious?!!! 😳😳😳

Well this thread has taken a turn....

Good parenting takes on many forms. It's not actually always about being present.

Demonstrating commitment and responsibility is also important.

The faux royal visits for cash (to countries that are demonstrably unsafe) makes me cringe but attending events as part of an ongoing patronage I have no criticism of, especially when they are left in the care of the other parent.

Is he a good parent? I've no idea if I'm honest because I have no insight into that relationship which is obviously conducted in private.

Like most of us I suspect he's the best parent he knows how to be.

They must be haemorrhaging cash due to their lifestyle and their earnings are not going to be anywhere near enough to sustain this long term. So I predict more Overseas visits to keep the cash flowing.

I think H will believe that maintaining their lifestyle and security at current levels is being a good parent - even if it means periods apart earning $$$ or raising his profile.

I’m sorry but being there is part of the job.part of the hard slog of parenting. He has no reason to be away so much. People whose work requires them to be away is very very different.

I have no idea what he is like interacting with his kids. He could be great, but that doesn’t negate that he has failed to organise his work life to fit in with a young families needs. Particularly when he has full control over what he does and when he does it.

Shift over?

I don’t know enough to comment on Harrys parenting particularly, but I remember saying at the time of Spare that his kids were very young still to be criticising other peoples parenting.

So talking about how Charles was distant and crap, and that he worried about the three Wales children etc.

He has no idea how Archie and Lily will feel about him when they grow up, how his book/documentary and drug use etc will affect them. I remember thinking that’s the kind of shit you say when you have already raised your own kids, not when they’re babies.

My nan always used to tell us not to judge other people because you never know how your own will turn out.
There but for the grace of God and all that

Edited: posted too soon

@GoldThumb - agree with you - thats how grandiose, delusional, arrogant people do - they believe they are entitled to judge and pontificate.

Agree @GoldThumb- 'pride comes before a fall' springs to mind.

I don't believe those two are remotely capable of raising well-rounded, emotionally healthy, happy children. But considering their input with the children is probably fairly minimal and surface, perhaps the nannies, staff, nursery teachers etc will do a fair job between them.
Much is made of the fact that they do have one member of extended family, their grandmother, but she doesn't live with them, we don't actually know how much time she spends with them - this is the woman who abandoned her own child for years so she may well not be that nurturing, caring and selfless naturally.

It isn't how shit at parenting for them or any other parents it's just the hypocrisy that comes from Harry and Meghan. Everything they seem to do contradicts what comes out of their mouths. If this was William do people honestly believe that a sly dig by them wouldn't be made. It's the same with the social media and children campaign whilst simultaneously using other people's children as props for PR, especially poor children of a suitable weight to be picked up like a handbag. I can guarantee there will be no apologies from Harry about his criticism of Charles working too hard and being away too much, unless he needs him for money. Harry is a condescending prat who when he says "we" he really means everyone else.

The rich are different. Nannies, maids, tutors - even bodyguards - spend more time with the children of their employers than the parents do. It’s normal for them, if not for us mere (middle-class!) mortals. Dh and still laugh about some posh father at a resort buffet bellowing, “Hugo! Do you like eggs?!” I think it was the first eating experience he’d ever had with his son!

Meghan is not from rich stock, but her childhood sounded less than optimum with the mysteriously absent Doria.

The “rich kids” lifestyle might be fine… IF Archie and Lilibet were ever allowed out. It is mighty weird that they are holed up in that mansion, big as it is, and never get a day trip.

Surely it must be the the case that either they don't go out on daytrips or in fact the 'paps' (as Meghan calls them) are not really that interested in them. It was excruciating in the Netflix doc to see them craning about looking for paparazzi and muttering about if there was one hiding in a basement, one on a motorbike etc - there was no one there!

No casual family out and about photos are ever gaken and so they must either just stay holed up at home or they are simply not subject to the media interest over there that they claim they are.

I'm sure they must get out and do stuff even if not with their parents.
Archie is 5 surely he is at least in some sort of Kindergarten with other kids?

I don't think the paps are that interested. Remember the whole made up New York car chase?

Who would buy a paper or click on a website just to get photos of Harry's kids?
They're might be the odd person but not the thousands required to make the photo worth any money.

The conspiracy theories online (that the kids don’t exist- which obviously isn’t true) flourish precisely because you never see the kids in any capacity and that both Meghan and Harry’s life seem pretty unaffected by having kids. Things like going off on a PR jolly for two weeks, while the kids are at home.

They talk about them yes (usually in very generic terms ‘they’re amazing’ ‘finding their voice’)
but for years now they have both been away from home for significant chunks of time. Vacations, trips to other counties and US states.
Much more Harry than Meghan but they do spend a lot of time away from the kids. This has been commented online for at least 2 years now. It’s also why mad theories around the kids have developed.

No smoke without fire.

Not saying the kids don't exist, that sounds absurd. I just mean, conspiracy theories only really come about where a situation is obviously abnormal or at least 'off' in a way that may not be easy to pinpoint but which most people can intuit on some level.