The Waleses have said Happy birthday to Harry

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On their Instagram.

Surprised tbh, thought I read they wouldn't acknowledge it.

Maybe they are channeling Michelle Obama: when they go low, we go high.

🤢 that's not even the worst part

Yes I have read Spare. I have also read other sources. Diana played a large part in keeping Charles away from the boys and alienating them (The Housekeeper's Diary, written from the POV of a staff member who saw things at first hand). However, there is plenty of other evidence that Charles spent a lot of time with Harry after her death (more than William who was closer to his mother and did not get on well with Charles), sharing a love of outdoor sports. There's plenty of evidence of this. Harry went to boarding school, so he would not have seen his father much diuring term time. That's not abandonment.

Charles married Camilla when Harry was 23 nearly 24. You know what I was doing at 24? Living a fully independent, very busy life and seeing my parents 3 or 4 times a year as I lived the other side of the country. Charles married Camilla in April 2005. Harry went into the army in May 2005. Do you think Harry's memories (which, again in Spare, he says are unreliable) might be conflating both Charles and Harry moving on into new chapters of their lives with abandonment?

He's said he loves his father and brother on numerous occasions and wants closeness to them. He chose to put the distance between them, physical through distance and emotional through his tell alls - his choice. He has no right to complain about his choices. He could have stayed in the UK and tried to build whatever bridges he thought needed building and help his wife to adjust to royal life. She wanted to leave, he wanted to leave. Nobody forced them to leave.

Indeed, why should anyone stay in touch with abusive family members? That's exactly what Harry is to his family. Abusive. They should cut him off.

Tell me. I want to know now. Did he lose feeling in it or something!

It's a while ago since I read it

OK so.

I just don't understand why people get annoyed about it.

They're like every other dysfunctional family in the UK.

People are on here on mumsnet complaining all the time about their families and inlaws.

It's normal.

There are lovely birthday wishes for Harry's 40th from WellChild (he has been involved with them for 18 years), Invictus, Scotty's Little Soldiers and more

But the icing on the cake was the Duke of Sussex pub in Peckham being loaned the Harry and Meghan waxworks from Madame Tussauds for inside their pub 😂

Actually, Charles’ Mother was the Queen from when he was a young child. As her direct heir he was entitled to the revenues of the Duchy of Cornwall, so he had his own income stream for his whole adult life.

All I'm saying is Elizabeth Arden Eight Hour Cream + Mummy....

😂love it!

It's actually a good likeness!

Here is 'Harry' being served a pint 😂

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It is a good likeness!

Correction to my previous post, Harry was 20 going on 21 when his father married Camilla, but he did go into the army the following month, and he was an adult.

Maybe there will soon be photos of the kids? opportunity to change the narrative a bit ? slot them into an episode of one of their showsor a staged pap shot.?

Anyone's guess really!

Yes, and he fully expected it to continue based on his 'my father cut me off' shock / horror moan to Oprah. I think that was another Oprah 'mistruth' if I remember correctly.

I expect, at some point, it will come out in the wash that his father continues to support them in one manner or another.

The whole "my father cut me off" is, as well as being untrue, so irritating. Multimillionaires whining about their financial straights are never going to attract sympathy, oddly enough.

If anyone in the RF appears to believe in Divine Right, it's our Harry, who feels he deserves access to a bottomless well of money, even when not doing a hands turn for the Firm and slagging them off to boot.

If it was so bad why did they want half in/ half out ?

I did laugh at his complaining about it to Oprah, "my father cut me off", then saying "so I had to rely on the money my Mum left me" - wasn't that about £30m?
Honestly, talk about lack of self awareness!

And now another 8 million from the late QM of course. It's like he has absolutely no idea how massive these sums are to the overwhelming majority of the planets population, let alone people who are genuinely poor, as in eg some of those he's met in Africa. Clueless really, but he has no right to be. He probably feels improverished because his own private jet is beyond his reach.

Him not having parents was one factor?

What are you talking about? His Dad is still alive and currently the King of England!! Not exactly gone into hiding, has he?

Lots of people grow up with only one parent because the other one is either dead, unknown or absent. Of those, plenty also grow up in poverty.

Harry had two parents until he was 12. Without any doubt, his mother dying was horrendous for him. However, he continued to live most of the year at boarding school (not with either parent) and this was what he had been used to for several years (he boarded from the age of 8).

Although Harry’s mother died, he still had his much loved nanny, the familiarity of his school where he spent more time than not, grandparents, father, brother, cousins and other relatives. In addition, Harry had millions of pounds both actually in his bank account (inherited from Queen Mother, so in trust, from his mother’s estate, and in his own right) and also available to be spent on him that wasn’t his money.

It’s in no way comparable to most who only have one parent.

If you look back, I didn't write that his dad didn't exist,

I pointed out how Harry said in his book that he very rarely saw Charles, after Charles married Camillia.

Harry wrote that.

To help the Queen.

Did they hell!!!

I don't know why there is so much anger towards Harry.

Harry hasn't done anything. He hasn't been in any scandal.

Yet there is more anger directed towards him on mumsnet, then there is towards Prince Andrew, who has done far worse.

People on here that are angry at him. Can you explain why you are angry at him?

All I see that he has done is: complain about the royal family and write a book about the royal family.

But I think it’s quite normal for young adults to start having their own lives and not see so much of their parent/s once in their 20s. Harry was studying and then went to Sandhurst. Charles was increasingly taking on more responsibilities for the Queen. I suspect that Charles’ recollections about seeing Harry after marrying Camilla may vary to Harry’s.

Well it certainly contradicts your assertion that they are beautiful pml!

And how do you know they are "good parents"???