Hollywood Reporter - Meghan and Harry

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Why Hollywood Keeps Quitting on Prince Harry and Meghan Markle (hollywoodreporter.com)

Why’d they all leave? What explains the churn? “Everyone’s terrified of Meghan,” claims a source close to the couple. “She belittles people, she doesn’t take advice. They’re both poor decision-makers, they change their minds frequently. Harry is a very, very charming person — no airs at all — but he’s very much an enabler. And she’s just terrible.”

I can't remember how Ellen's bullying was finally exposed, but it was doing the rounds on SM for a long time before she faced the consequences.

The fact this was published in The Hollywood Reporter, despite their friends in high places, has to indicate the industry doesn't rate them, doesn't hold them in any regard, and absolutely do not like her. They not only called out their bullying but called out how poorly they manage their business and how difficult they are to work with, poor decision makers and changing their minds.

That article was a double edged sword.

But some of the couple’s stateside staff-members also reserve special bile for Markle,

pretty strong words.

Also wanting apologies from the RF? It’s another bullying attempt imo. Wanting an apology from your victim.

Also, they wanted a very public apology.

Well the shit hit the fan on Saturday with the HR article and she was still out, smiling away at the tennis tournament.

Doesn't surprise me they are trying to pretend all is normal, but what a weekend for them ! a small bookstore opening and a small town charity tennis tournament on what was Harry's 40th birthday weekend. On the same weekend they were NOT invited to the Emmy's.

I'm always baffled by exactly what Harry thinks his family should apologise FOR.

Also, there's a promo clip from the Netflix H&M series which always makes me laugh, when Harry is talking about the Palace leaking stories, and he says in hushed and appalled tones, "There is a hierarchy in the family..." OF COURSE there's a hierarchy! It's a FUCKING MONARCHY! That's literally the point!

Oh Harry, you can tell he has never really worked anywhere. All jobs have hierarchies, didn't they have that in the Army?

The apology they want is a public one and an admission that the RF are the worst ever, they could be waiting a long time for that.

Oh wow, I didn't even think about the Emmys. Aren't there generally many A-list parties surrounding it? And they weren't invited to any?!

You answered your own question, cheezncrackers; jobs and associations like this are usually regarded as a plus to have on your CV, but with so much failure and toxicity involved who'd want to take the risk?

There's a point when things start to topple where regrouping's possible if the insight's there, but clearly it isn't and here we are

The HR article also very damningly states everything as fact rather than allegations of something happening. They know H&M can’t sue.

Also would the HR publish an article which we know will affect Archewell productions work, if they knew that a lot of people in the industry were reliant on their work with Archewell- writers and producers and actors etc who would also be negatively impacted.

Im not sure they would ( they are an industry magazine)

So they must know….there isn’t much going on in terms of work for tv company, so nothing to lose

Someone on twitter posted the audio of this comment from Archteypes, my word, it sounded threatening, and really, really bitchy.

"You’re allowed to set a boundary. You’re allowed to be clear, it doesn’t make you demanding. It doesn’t make you difficult, it makes you clear.'”

I can't find it now to post it here, if someone else can, it's worth listening to realise how she said it.

@Thedom

It’s in the interview of the editor in chief of Hollywood reporter on their article.

Exactly. If they were genuinely lovely, philanthropic, kind, hard-working people who are genuinely full of 'joy', why would everyone be so mean about them? It would just make those people look bad, because they'd be criticising two people that everyone knows are actually lovely. Ergo ...

I'm sure the secret service know more about Meghan than is public knowledge.

I agree. I think there's long been a vault devoted to both Henrys and it's a massive disappointment that it'll no doubt be sealed for decades like the rest of the royal secrets.

I also think there's highly likely to have been a massive internet cleaning operation along the way. I'd love to know what was there before we ever heard Rachel's name.

Have you gone down that rabbit hole @CathyorClaire ? Ever since the Catherine/photoshop nonsense, the internet sleuths have been poring over everything Markle in "revenge". My mind is boggled, but I don't know what to believe.

Yes this is often how bullys operate - single targetted digs that are just below the belt so that if called out they can revert to plausable deniability and faux surprise - suggesting the victim is 'sensitive' - also you might look a bit irrational if you called out the single incident - but it is the repeated accumulation and compounding nature of these digs that does the damage of time.

That is exactly how they operate @Smirke . Have known people like that. They choose their words very carefully.

"There is a hierarchy in the family..." OF COURSE there's a hierarchy! It's a FUCKING MONARCHY! That's literally the point!

And one H&M continue to endorse and facilitate with their titles and expectations of behaviour for others even outside of the monarchy in a Republic!!

Just wondering if Harry got his birthday party or was the tennis court thingy in lieu of one.

Exactly.
Apparently, Meghan once said that
“it wasn’t her job to coddle people”
A perfect example of her minimising people’s experiences and humiliation. She sounds like the ultimate mean girl.

She has been bullying her father in law and sister in law publicly, each little comment on it's own didn't appear to be so significant .....,

Finding Freedom was full of little digs like that against Catherine. As I was reading, I kept thinking 'Perhaps it's just unfortunate wording - perhaps I'm reading too much into it - perhaps I'm looking for things to criticise - ' but by the end, there was just too much of it to be accident or carelessness.

Thanks for posting that - it made interesting watching.

I'm not sure that I agree with her about it being a story planted by Harry or Meghan or some PR machine friendly to one or the other. However, if she's right, then could it have been planted by the new British PR agency that it was rumoured recently that Harry has engaged to rehabilitate his image in the UK?

If it was planted by the palace or Harry's new friendly UK PR firm it really lends credence to the idea that H&M are on the rocks.

Yes - Meghan has used this tactic a lot. I remember she said something like 'They called Katherine 'Waity Katy', and that's so mean!'. So, you disingenuously repeat the insult and then, doe eyes wide, you pretend you think it's just awful. I've seen this done IRL and it's a tactic which successfully takes in some people. And they can't touch you for it - you didn't say anything mean, did you? You were just criticising other's nasty remarks....yeah, right.

Also - her remark in the OW interview, after throwing shade (as the SS like to say) on Katherine, Meghan said earnestly 'But Katherine is a good person'. Which had just the opposite implication. The subtext was: 'Even when I've been bullied and mistreated by her, I can still be the bigger person'.

So, so transparent to anyone with an ounce of perception, but sadly these sneaky little tricks do work with some of her audience.

And yet she herself expected 'coddling' on several occasions - the SA tour, to name jut one.

But Meghan isn't 'other people', is she?

I'm increasingly disgusted with Harry for being taken in by her and by enabling her horrible behaviour over the the years, not only to his once-loved SIL, but to anyone who stopped Meghan getting what Meghan wanted.