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Hollywood Reporter - Meghan and Harry

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ThatAvidViewer · 12/09/2024 21:11

Why Hollywood Keeps Quitting on Prince Harry and Meghan Markle (hollywoodreporter.com)

Why’d they all leave? What explains the churn? “Everyone’s terrified of Meghan,” claims a source close to the couple. “She belittles people, she doesn’t take advice. They’re both poor decision-makers, they change their minds frequently. Harry is a very, very charming person — no airs at all — but he’s very much an enabler. And she’s just terrible.”

Would you work for Harry and Meghan? Ex-employees say run away.

Why Hollywood Keeps Quitting on Harry and Meghan

Plus, how an Echo glitch turned Alexa into a “commie operative” and Dimitri, the million-dollar maitre ‘d, rides off into the Sunset (Tower).

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/business-news/hollywood-keeps-quitting-prince-harry-meghan-markle-1235996963/

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Sparklywhiteteeth · 14/09/2024 17:49

Twistybranch · 14/09/2024 17:44

Its how the Obama’s deal worked and Megan’s is said to follow theirs.

They get productions costs covered but it depends on the release of the show and how popular if they get a bonus or not. So not a risk but not guaranteed to make money

Although the obamas new deal isn’t first look

Hmm ok,,,

Sparklywhiteteeth · 14/09/2024 17:51

isthereaway · 14/09/2024 17:49

I realise he is 40. As a Counsellor I also know that the sudden violent death of a Mother at a young age, never mind in the full glare of world media, would affect most people. Some all their life, even with decent professional input. I imagine William was greatly affected too but has perhaps processed it more than /differently to Harry. H may also have made poor decisions but I was commenting on this particular aspect.

As someone who lost their mother at 7, and suddenly I can absolutely tell you my lived experience is it is not an excuse to live a dishonest or narcissistic life. It simply isn’t, an you should not be alluding to such a thing.

Twistybranch · 14/09/2024 17:51

Sparklywhiteteeth · 14/09/2024 17:49

Hmm ok,,,

Hmm ok, right back at you

Americanpseudoroyaltorture · 14/09/2024 17:56

Twistybranch · 14/09/2024 17:24

If H&M were taken to court, people deciding to sue for workplace harassment or something, the NDAs wouldn't apply right?

I mean P diddy has just been sued by a whole bunch of folks

I'm pretty sure an NDA is a contract settling potential civil claims; and you can't contract out of reporting a crime against you and an employer can't devolve someone of their rights with regard to a criminal act committed against them by using an NDA. P Diddy has been accused of criminal activity, mostly charges of SA and violence. Workplace harassment is an altogether more grey area that could constitute civil/contractual or criminal claims depending on what form the harassment took; Screaming and shouting at employees and creating a hostile environment is not criminal activity. Assaulting them (by throwing objects like mobile phones or cups of hot drink at them) is. Bullying per se will not be criminal unless it is bullying someone for a protected characteristic (race, sexuality, religion etc). Civil and potential criminal claims often run concurrently when it comes to the workplace - most employees will prefer to take money and leave with their reputation free of controversy (for the sake of seeking future employment) rather than put themselves through any sort of court case, either civil or criminal. And if they have been compensated for such harassment and their only claims would be civil claims, the NDA ought to be water-tight.

Twistybranch · 14/09/2024 17:58

Americanpseudoroyaltorture · 14/09/2024 17:56

I'm pretty sure an NDA is a contract settling potential civil claims; and you can't contract out of reporting a crime against you and an employer can't devolve someone of their rights with regard to a criminal act committed against them by using an NDA. P Diddy has been accused of criminal activity, mostly charges of SA and violence. Workplace harassment is an altogether more grey area that could constitute civil/contractual or criminal claims depending on what form the harassment took; Screaming and shouting at employees and creating a hostile environment is not criminal activity. Assaulting them (by throwing objects like mobile phones or cups of hot drink at them) is. Bullying per se will not be criminal unless it is bullying someone for a protected characteristic (race, sexuality, religion etc). Civil and potential criminal claims often run concurrently when it comes to the workplace - most employees will prefer to take money and leave with their reputation free of controversy (for the sake of seeking future employment) rather than put themselves through any sort of court case, either civil or criminal. And if they have been compensated for such harassment and their only claims would be civil claims, the NDA ought to be water-tight.

Thanks!

Sparklywhiteteeth · 14/09/2024 17:59

Twistybranch · 14/09/2024 17:51

Hmm ok, right back at you

? Have I offended? I’m not disputing what you said? Just thinking on the implications of it.

CoffeandTiaMaria · 14/09/2024 18:04

Cattery · 13/09/2024 09:37

@Smirke Didn’t he just. He’s been very foolish. She discards everyone once they’ve served their intended purpose.

Bit like a praying mantis me thinks 😵‍💫

Smirke · 14/09/2024 18:07

I suspect PH will now have a few last minute cancellations for his boys weekend away - especially if Backgrid were on stand-by to snap all the hilarity....who's happy to be associated with this?

Puzzledandpissedoff · 14/09/2024 18:09

i genuinely believe what’s worse than abusing staff, is enabling that and lying and saying your family made it up

Harry lying is nothing new, but while remembering this is all still "sources" (though the Hollywood Reporter's very reputable) I agree with you

It seems there's nothing - nothing at all - Harry won't throw on the altar of his wife, and if he ever manages to come to his senses I don't quite know how he'll live with himself after trashing absolutely everything he once had

MrsLeonFarrell · 14/09/2024 18:19

According to an "expert" in that article she regrets The Cut article and thought the Oprah interview would be all about her mental health not the racism accusation.

Riiight.

Smirke · 14/09/2024 18:22

isthereaway · 14/09/2024 17:49

I realise he is 40. As a Counsellor I also know that the sudden violent death of a Mother at a young age, never mind in the full glare of world media, would affect most people. Some all their life, even with decent professional input. I imagine William was greatly affected too but has perhaps processed it more than /differently to Harry. H may also have made poor decisions but I was commenting on this particular aspect.

I understand that his behaviour is a continuous subconscious 're-enactment' in reaction to his mothers death where he is trying to play out another outcome where he saves her life via this relationship.

Thats why all of the press stuff and security is so amplified and distorted for him - and this is evidenced by him only seeing these threats in the UK and not in arguably much more dangerous places (LA, Colombia, Nigeria). Its emotionally irrational but he also has a very manipulative individual tapping deep into these fears and whipping him up for her own benefit.

I believe from day one MM had plans to get him and any children stateside asap so that she would not be stuck in the UK. She had her agents, Sunshine Sachs and her lawyers working advising her and working on deals throughout working on deals (of which they would also benefit) fromthe moment she met PH.

She always had a long term aspiration to be US Hollywood A list - PH, RF and UK were just a stepping stone which escalated her progression.

Smirke · 14/09/2024 18:24

MrsLeonFarrell · 14/09/2024 18:19

According to an "expert" in that article she regrets The Cut article and thought the Oprah interview would be all about her mental health not the racism accusation.

Riiight.

The Cut came out days before HMTQ died.

She knew that she was very near the end of her life and in that article she still chose to mock and goad the RF re NDAs etc.

She is callous.

Frenchcountryhomes · 14/09/2024 18:24

Smirke · 14/09/2024 18:22

I understand that his behaviour is a continuous subconscious 're-enactment' in reaction to his mothers death where he is trying to play out another outcome where he saves her life via this relationship.

Thats why all of the press stuff and security is so amplified and distorted for him - and this is evidenced by him only seeing these threats in the UK and not in arguably much more dangerous places (LA, Colombia, Nigeria). Its emotionally irrational but he also has a very manipulative individual tapping deep into these fears and whipping him up for her own benefit.

I believe from day one MM had plans to get him and any children stateside asap so that she would not be stuck in the UK. She had her agents, Sunshine Sachs and her lawyers working advising her and working on deals throughout working on deals (of which they would also benefit) fromthe moment she met PH.

She always had a long term aspiration to be US Hollywood A list - PH, RF and UK were just a stepping stone which escalated her progression.

I think that is all very true.

Frenchcountryhomes · 14/09/2024 18:26

MrsLeonFarrell · 14/09/2024 18:19

According to an "expert" in that article she regrets The Cut article and thought the Oprah interview would be all about her mental health not the racism accusation.

Riiight.

She only regrets it because it misfired on her. She imagined it would garner far more sympathy.

MrsLeonFarrell · 14/09/2024 18:27

Frenchcountryhomes · 14/09/2024 18:26

She only regrets it because it misfired on her. She imagined it would garner far more sympathy.

If the expert is correct, and there isn't evidence either way from Meghan to be fair, but if it's correct then I agree with you.

MrsLeonFarrell · 14/09/2024 18:28

Smirke · 14/09/2024 18:24

The Cut came out days before HMTQ died.

She knew that she was very near the end of her life and in that article she still chose to mock and goad the RF re NDAs etc.

She is callous.

And that interview was a masterclass in undermining the interviewee which I don't think she realised until she read reaction to it.

Americanpseudoroyaltorture · 14/09/2024 18:30

Citrusandginger · 14/09/2024 17:45

Truthfully, there probably is something where you introduce a new person to your family and suddenly become hyper-conscious of your family's quirks. You get a glimpse of them through someone else's eyes and there maybe things that you personally don't love but accept because it's your family.

At some level, Harry may have been aware and nervous about the wierdness of introducing M to his Granny the Queen. But how did she not get it? She doesn't appear to have any emotional intelligence at all.

Now she is teaching little girls in far away countries to curtsy for her and call her ma'am. Hypocritical so and so.

BunnyLake · 14/09/2024 18:30

Sparklywhiteteeth · 14/09/2024 17:51

As someone who lost their mother at 7, and suddenly I can absolutely tell you my lived experience is it is not an excuse to live a dishonest or narcissistic life. It simply isn’t, an you should not be alluding to such a thing.

I am sorry for your loss, I don’t doubt it is a life changing event. I do though think he’s exploiting his mother. All the years before Meghan he wasn’t talking about her at every opportunity the way he has post meeting M. It’s fishy to me and I’m not convinced it’s coming from a genuine place. I think it’s a mix of his wife picking that scab plus the potentially lucrative offers with the constant reminders that he is Diana’s son, lest we forget.

Smirke · 14/09/2024 18:31

Frenchcountryhomes · 14/09/2024 18:26

She only regrets it because it misfired on her. She imagined it would garner far more sympathy.

100% this .... but they were her actual words.

She still has no concern how those words deeply impacted others - PP on his death bed, HMTQ grieving, HMTQ on her death bed and the whole family.

She has never expressed regret (first time I have heard this) in fact she just doubled down post the OW interview with The Cut and NF.

Twistybranch · 14/09/2024 18:36

MrsLeonFarrell · 14/09/2024 18:19

According to an "expert" in that article she regrets The Cut article and thought the Oprah interview would be all about her mental health not the racism accusation.

Riiight.

Yeh it’s always someone else’s fault.

Im pretty sure when asked about the Cut article (which is so brilliantly written) she said something about just being so trusting and open - with the implication she was taken advantage of in the interview

Zero self awareness

Thedom · 14/09/2024 18:36

MrsLeonFarrell · 14/09/2024 18:28

And that interview was a masterclass in undermining the interviewee which I don't think she realised until she read reaction to it.

Absolutely. wasn't this another time where Meghan put in a call and got a person relieved of their job ?

Asked about The Cut's article in a later interview with Variety, Meghan appeared regretful but philosophical about Davis' take.

She said: "The [New York] story was intended to support Archetypes and focus on our projects. I've had some time to reflect on it. Part of me is just really trusting, really open—that's how I move in the world

MrsLeonFarrell · 14/09/2024 18:40

Thedom · 14/09/2024 18:36

Absolutely. wasn't this another time where Meghan put in a call and got a person relieved of their job ?

Asked about The Cut's article in a later interview with Variety, Meghan appeared regretful but philosophical about Davis' take.

She said: "The [New York] story was intended to support Archetypes and focus on our projects. I've had some time to reflect on it. Part of me is just really trusting, really open—that's how I move in the world

I have quite a lot of sympathy for Meghan because she was so out of her depth when she married in and Harry was completely useless.

But.

At some point surely even the most inward looking person starts to realise that if everyone around them is the problem maybe they aren't as perfect as they think they are?

Smirke · 14/09/2024 18:41

Sparklywhiteteeth · 14/09/2024 17:51

As someone who lost their mother at 7, and suddenly I can absolutely tell you my lived experience is it is not an excuse to live a dishonest or narcissistic life. It simply isn’t, an you should not be alluding to such a thing.

I am sorry for your loss. I also lost a parent suddenly at 6 years old and then immediately lost the other to collapsed MH for years thereafter after. I know this damaged my emotional development, emotional regulation and left me vulnerable to MH episodes in my teens and early 20s. I have done a lot of work since and can muddle through especially as I have stable emotionally healthy DH, friends and family.

But I can see PH unresolved trauma playing out - IMHO it explains his behaviour but never excuses it. He was unlucky to meet someone also very damaged who has not helped him heal and grow but in fact regressed him emotionally and re-triggers his trauma.

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