Duke of Sussex : "potentially initiate a partial return to the royal fold"

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Duke of Sussex asks former aides to help plot RETURN from his US exile in first stage of 'rehabilitation' strategy: Prince's friends vow to help smooth path back and dub it 'Operation Bring Harry In From The Cold' | Daily Mail Online

After everything he has said and done........

His family are in the public eye and so are vulnerable to private information being sold to the media. I expect they are deeply hurt that Harry has chosen to make money out of selling their relationship to the media (the media he claims to despise).

Maybe one day they can forgive him, if he changes his behaviour.

One thing for certain, PH is plotting something in suddenly wanting to return to the family.

Maybe he couldn't get tickets for Oasis.

He's angling for the posh seats in the royal box.

So according to the Mail Harry has no interest in returning, translated as he’s tested the waters, seen the response from the public and William’s team, now he’s backtracking, no doubt his PR team will have been scanning the comments section of all the papers and will have seen the unsupportive comments to put it mildly. Nice try Harold.

She's an actress, the pawing and fawning over him is part of the act. She has nothing else.

Who even fu...king cares about the ginger whinger and his melodramatic missus. They're history.

Think it is just (he always was slow on the uptake-2 A levels, grade b and d, after the finest education money can buy) dawning on him that his future is as a Duke of Windsor tribute act. That has to sting.

The one actual bit of sympathy I can still muster for Harry is over his time at Eton.

It is a selective school. The sixth form, entry for which Harry also surprisingly qualified, even more so.

As with many other 'public' (ie fee-paying) schools, the other pupils would have been astutely aware of the boys that were probably admitted via 'alternative' arrangements.

Harry would have known and felt this, and known that the other boys and all the staff members knew it; and his book Spare's self-descriptions of his years at Eton are astonishingly lacking in self-reflection. It seems he would rather be thought of an unpopular, ill-disciplined, spoilt and unpleasant individual than admit to the real cause of his misery - the shame of being thought of as dim by his social inferiors. Meghan flattered/flatters him.

Yes , that makes sense. He’s always felt like the dunce and the also ran . Along comes a woman who appears to hang off his every word, gazing adoringly at him and telling him he’s not being treated right. My guess is he’s never had that sort of single minded adoration since his mother died. He fell for it hook, line and sinker. For someone with no real insight, empathy or ability to self reflect, it has been a disaster. I’m sure William could see it for what it was and tried to guide Harry, unsuccessfully.

It comes entirely from the H&M camp.

No-one has ever shown stories which were maliciously planted. Or those which were smothered (except for intrusive pieces about royal children, including young adults at university, and some information on time in the military).

There are normal contacts with press, and normal efforts to gain positive coverage.

Anything beyond that is from the Sussex "side" playbook and feeds cynically on the idea that people don't want to believe that institutions are pretty decent really.

Inverted commas for "side" as the perpetual divisiveness of assuming there are sides/teams/forelock tiggers/haterz etc is not universally held to be representative of what is actually happening in discussion (especially when that discussion includes adequate sourcing)

I think that has to be the case, because she was in debt when she died (late Queen paid off over £7m). But then she couldn't have known how many she would have. She was in debt for much of her widowhood (at the start of which which she had 2 grandchildren) and it was only some 20 years later that the first great-grandchild appeared). So when did she think about putting money in trust for them? And was it to be divided equally amongst all of them, except the heir?

She had 6 grandchildren and 12 great-grandchildren (3 born after her death)

(Edited to make the middle bit a bit clearer - or at least I hope it's clearer!)

Unless he and her are splitting up I don’t think he’ll be back.

Where I work.our communications staff know the main journalists in the field (a bit niche) and it is part of the job to have a positive, professional relationship with them.

It doesn't mean the press will smother anything controversial, but it does help get our side of the story represented, and there have been occasions when a story has been put back for up to 24 hours in order to inform and put in place support for innocent people who have got caught up.in the situation (no-one wants another David Kelly tragedy).

Until H&M, or there supporters, can point to a specific story that was planted (and there has been plenty of time now for the 'suppressed' story to emerge) I just don't buy it. They don't seem to understand that it is their own behaviour that causes the negative press.

I do believe that but I was also astonished to see a photo of some Duke (can’t remember who) who looked more like he could be Harry’s brother than William. This man’s father was a good friend of Diana (just saying, lol).

Earl of Pembroke. It was brought to my attention on one of these MN threads I think.

Harry is definitely Charles' son. No doubt. Look at his eyes and nose! Harry also looks like Prince Philip.
I think some people were just trying to stir the pot about Diana's extramarital affairs.

Yes his eyes and nose are identical.

Loving the mail is now reporting he doesn’t want to come back and has amazing friends and projects lined up. I mean a/sadly neither is true, there is no pretending it now, and b/ it’s the winning at life/it’s all lies of the Sussex squad .

as such, yeah he wanted to come back but it’s not going to happen.

According to the The Guardian (no reason to disbelieve it, it is a fairly reputable source and has a good level.of detail) most of her wealth was placed in trust funds for her ggc in 1994. That contributed to her debts when she died, as she then.lost that income.

This article includes that the bulk of the trust went to William and Harry, with Harry getting more. Plus one tranche aged 21 and the other at 40.

Of course, it may be complete fantasy, but I doubt it.

www.theguardian.com/uk/2002/apr/03/queenmother.monarchy2

Why would you leave more money to William and Harry than your other ggc? Seems a bit mean to me especially when they would have been more than well provided for as Charles at the time was heir.

Presumably because she believed in hierarchy.

The Sussex's 'global communications team' are absolutely saturating the media at the moment,

Yes, it seems they want Harry in the news, whatever it takes.

And for whatever reason. I wonder what is happening behind the scenes.

Oh! Are you suggesting that Meghan really lives in Santa Monica and Harry is in living in the mansion?