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Who Killed Diana Docuseries

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Nadeed · 29/08/2024 17:59

A new docuseries will be shown, Who Killed Diana? which will explore the circumstances surrounding the death of the Princess of Wales on August 31, 1997. It will feature rare and, in some cases, the first ever interviews with several key sources connected to Diana's death.

Who else will be watching this?

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MrsLeonFarrell · 30/08/2024 19:41

Serenster · 30/08/2024 19:09

It’s a very persistent belief that Dana’s bodyguard was wearing his seatbelt - it was I think misreported at the time? The inquiry found no damage at all to his seatbelt, suggesting it was fully retracted at the time of the crash. Plus he suffered terrible head injuries when his head hit the windscreen, which definitely suggests he wasn’t wearing a seatbelt.

The two on the driver’s side of the car - Henry Paul and Dodi - were both killed instantly whereas the two on the other side both suffered horrible injuries, ultimately unsurvivable for Diana, but it seems that side of the car came off better on the crash, so it may have been as simple as where they were sitting.

I remember reading at the time that Diana was in the most survivable seat, if only she had been wearing her seatbelt.

When tragedies happen out of the blue I think it is human nature to want a big complicated explanation because it seems so unfair. But life is unfair and terrible things happen for no more reason than a series of tiny miscalculations.

Runnerinthenight · 30/08/2024 19:44

Do you ever wonder what Diana would have done with the rest of her life? If she would have had more children? Would Harry have turned out any differently?

It's one of those moments you always remember, hearing that she had died. I was in bed feeding my 3 month old. It seemed just beyond belief really.

MagdaLenor · 30/08/2024 19:48

Yes, I sometimes do, @Runnerinthenight . I know towards the end of her life, she was getting on better with Charles. They seemed to have reached a sort of rapprochement. She would certainly have married again. I don't know if Harry would have turned out any differently, or if he would just have blamed his behaviour other stuff.
Funnily enough, I was up feeding my baby as well, when I heard the news.

Sethera · 30/08/2024 19:51

Runnerinthenight · 30/08/2024 19:44

Do you ever wonder what Diana would have done with the rest of her life? If she would have had more children? Would Harry have turned out any differently?

It's one of those moments you always remember, hearing that she had died. I was in bed feeding my 3 month old. It seemed just beyond belief really.

I suspect Diana would have remarried - someone with the wealth of Dodi, if not Dodi himself, who could have afforded a lifestyle including privacy and security. She was said to have been looking into a move to the USA.

She was 36 when she died, so it's possible she might have had more children, had she lived.

I think it's probable William and Harry would have turned out differently, possibly both have married different women, because the death of their mother not only had a profound emotional impact but would have affected the practical direction their lives took.

With Diana's influence on where they lived and were educated, who they came into contact with socially and so on, their lives might have been very different.

MrsLeonFarrell · 30/08/2024 19:53

Runnerinthenight · 30/08/2024 19:44

Do you ever wonder what Diana would have done with the rest of her life? If she would have had more children? Would Harry have turned out any differently?

It's one of those moments you always remember, hearing that she had died. I was in bed feeding my 3 month old. It seemed just beyond belief really.

It's something to ponder. She was getting on better with Charles but the press were beginning to be fairly critical about her holidays and relationships. I think it would probably have come down to whether the charity work drowned out her personal life.

MagdaLenor · 30/08/2024 19:55

There were certainly a lot of negative headlines that summer. She was judged for spending all that time with Dodi instead of her sons, home from boarding school.

AnywhereAnyoneAnyTime · 30/08/2024 20:24

Runnerinthenight · 30/08/2024 19:44

Do you ever wonder what Diana would have done with the rest of her life? If she would have had more children? Would Harry have turned out any differently?

It's one of those moments you always remember, hearing that she had died. I was in bed feeding my 3 month old. It seemed just beyond belief really.

I think she would have continued to live recklessly, and I could imagine her on TikTok and I’m a celebrity.

She was addicted to the media attention, but the truth is that the media and public opinion had started to turn, and she would have had to be more and more extreme to keep the media attention.

She’s still so loved because she died. Had she still been alive public opinion would have been very different by now.

EdithWeston · 30/08/2024 21:11

MagdaLenor · 30/08/2024 19:55

There were certainly a lot of negative headlines that summer. She was judged for spending all that time with Dodi instead of her sons, home from boarding school.

The princes' summer holidays were shared between their parents.

The time she spent with Dodi were during Charles' weeks. They were at Balmoral

Witchbitch20 · 30/08/2024 21:25

Wasn’t it a drunk driver?

Runnerinthenight · 30/08/2024 22:17

AnywhereAnyoneAnyTime · 30/08/2024 20:24

I think she would have continued to live recklessly, and I could imagine her on TikTok and I’m a celebrity.

She was addicted to the media attention, but the truth is that the media and public opinion had started to turn, and she would have had to be more and more extreme to keep the media attention.

She’s still so loved because she died. Had she still been alive public opinion would have been very different by now.

Yes, I think the public might have discovered her 'feet of clay' as it were had she lived. It would have been really tricky to maintain the esteem in which she was held at her death (and as pp have said there were rumblings even before that) and it would have been well nigh impossible for her no matter what she did to emulate the nigh-on 'sanctification' she had in death.

I can't see her on TikTok or I'm a Celebrity though!

I think she would have remarried and possibly have had one or two more children. I don't think she would have married Dodi though. How awful though to have a life cut off at just 36. Such a tragedy.

MagdaLenor · 30/08/2024 22:38

EdithWeston · 30/08/2024 21:11

The princes' summer holidays were shared between their parents.

The time she spent with Dodi were during Charles' weeks. They were at Balmoral

I know what happened.
I am saying what the headlines were and how it was reported. This was before she was a "saint". She was criticised for not being a full on Mum.

Mammyloveswine · 30/08/2024 22:57

Who killed Diana?! Well the driver was drunk so he was clearly at fault, Diana wasn't wearing a seatbelt and would've likely survived if she was, no idea why her and dodi didn't just eat at the ritz given the paparazzi issues they'd had.. the paps shouldn't have chased but the driver shouldn't have driven drunk.

Honestly it's very tragic but lots of stupid and dangerous mistakes.

Or it was all down to Prince Phillip of course Hmm

Nadeed · 31/08/2024 00:06

Media and public opinion had NOT turned. This is rewriting of history.
Before she died the press was full of her campaigning around landmines. And rumours that she was pregnant with Dodi's baby. There were articles saying the Royal Family would never accept this. This is exactly why the conspiracy theory that the Royal Family did this started in the first place.

But it happened so long ago that people make things up all the time now.

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MagdaLenor · 31/08/2024 05:12

No. Many stories were critical of Diana as a parent, that is a fact. It doesn't matter if you believe conspiracy theories or mot - Diana wasn't pregnant and she wasn't going to marry Dodi.
Read this thread, and the evidence- she was killed in a tragic accident.

Itsjustmeheretoday · 31/08/2024 05:33

I don't think she would've had more kids, she was very serious about William being King and the monarchy so that wouldn't just been tacky

LaMarschallin · 31/08/2024 07:32

Media and public opinion had NOT turned. This is rewriting of history

There's no point stating these things as if they brook no argument. That doesn't make them facts.
It was barn-door noticeable how the attitudes towards her changed - literally overnight - from some impatience over her publicity seeking (eg spectacular dives off a yacht, calling the press out to a motor launch from which she told them how surprised they'd be by what she did next and embarrassed amusement about her pursuit of some of her boyfriends, for example) to sanctifing her.

WatchOutMissMarpleIsAbout · 31/08/2024 07:37

Nadeed · 31/08/2024 00:06

Media and public opinion had NOT turned. This is rewriting of history.
Before she died the press was full of her campaigning around landmines. And rumours that she was pregnant with Dodi's baby. There were articles saying the Royal Family would never accept this. This is exactly why the conspiracy theory that the Royal Family did this started in the first place.

But it happened so long ago that people make things up all the time now.

That’s not true about rewriting history. The papers were highly critical of her antics that summer. (Wrongly imo.)

You either weren’t there or are rewriting history yourself!

MagdaLenor · 31/08/2024 07:39

@WatchOutMissMarpleIsAbout - exactly!

Serenster · 31/08/2024 07:57

That’s not true about rewriting history. The papers were highly critical of her antics that summer. (Wrongly imo.)

Private Eye’s summary on what the Press were saying about Diana immediately before and after the 31st of August 1997 is illuminating on this. Plus this never not funny craven apology from the National Enquirer…

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AnywhereAnyoneAnyTime · 31/08/2024 07:57

Nadeed · 31/08/2024 00:06

Media and public opinion had NOT turned. This is rewriting of history.
Before she died the press was full of her campaigning around landmines. And rumours that she was pregnant with Dodi's baby. There were articles saying the Royal Family would never accept this. This is exactly why the conspiracy theory that the Royal Family did this started in the first place.

But it happened so long ago that people make things up all the time now.

except you’re the one rewriting history. She was seen as an embarrassment by the time she died. And she was an embarrassment. The way she’d been behaving that summer, but even before that she was no stranger to having affairs with married men etc.

People have rewritten history to paint her as this innocent betrayed princess, when actually, while while she did do a lot of good and the marriage to Charles should never have happened, she was no saint.

She herself had an affair, and knew perfectly well how to manipulate the press.

She was no saint, and had she lived the shine would have been long gone.

Pineapplesandthegovernmentandpunkrock · 31/08/2024 08:23

She absolutely was being criticised for her behaviour before her death (rightly or wrongly, it was happening). That's why I, and many of my friends, couldn't believe the madness that ensued after she died. I was in my mid 20s and, as a Londoner, remember the volte face and the intolerable "mourning" all too well.

Sethera · 31/08/2024 08:28

Yes, the newspapers were jeering at Diana 'cavorting' with Dodi on his yacht while posting salacious pictures of her in her bikini. Predictably, as Dodi wasn't white, there was a strong undercurrent of racism condemning her choice of boyfriend. Columnists were vitriolic. The P.E. screenshots above say it all, really, about the u-turn the press had to make overnight.

Flexibubble · 31/08/2024 08:30

MrsLeonFarrell · 30/08/2024 19:41

I remember reading at the time that Diana was in the most survivable seat, if only she had been wearing her seatbelt.

When tragedies happen out of the blue I think it is human nature to want a big complicated explanation because it seems so unfair. But life is unfair and terrible things happen for no more reason than a series of tiny miscalculations.

Harry in his netflix doc wasn't wearing his seatbelt in a few scenes where the car was moving, it's partly arrogance as well that oh it couldn't have possibly been a lapse in judgement it must have been someone else's fault.

Pineapplesandthegovernmentandpunkrock · 31/08/2024 08:32

Meghan isn't wearing one either in the still shot that was published of the "near catastrophic car chase".

WatchOutMissMarpleIsAbout · 31/08/2024 09:09

Sethera · 31/08/2024 08:28

Yes, the newspapers were jeering at Diana 'cavorting' with Dodi on his yacht while posting salacious pictures of her in her bikini. Predictably, as Dodi wasn't white, there was a strong undercurrent of racism condemning her choice of boyfriend. Columnists were vitriolic. The P.E. screenshots above say it all, really, about the u-turn the press had to make overnight.

I can’t remember jeering comments about Hasnet Khan but I’m happy to be corrected. I always thought the comments were negative because of Dodi’s father rather than Dodi himself. But the press of the 90’s was cruel.