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Who Killed Diana Docuseries

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Nadeed · 29/08/2024 17:59

A new docuseries will be shown, Who Killed Diana? which will explore the circumstances surrounding the death of the Princess of Wales on August 31, 1997. It will feature rare and, in some cases, the first ever interviews with several key sources connected to Diana's death.

Who else will be watching this?

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MrsLeonFarrell · 30/08/2024 07:03

Oh great another excuse to wheel out conspiracy theories that were debunked years ago. There were 4 people in that car, 1 was wearing a seat belt and he survived. It's not complicated.

Let Diana rest in peace.

EdithWeston · 30/08/2024 08:10

Sethera · 29/08/2024 19:34

There have been many investigations into the various theories surrounding Diana's death - all have come to nothing.

In the highly unlikely event she was killed by MI5 or similar, do you really think they're ever going to say "OK, fair cop, guv".

The overwhelming probability is that Diana died because she wasn't wearing a seatbelt and the car was being driven dangerously.

This series will just be tedious rent-a-mouth z-listers droning on about their pet conspiracy theories.

I'm no great fan of Diana or her family, but for goodness sake, let her rest in peace!

And don't forget the bit in the narrative verdict that the press never seem to report on - the the actions of what the Coroner calls "the following vehicles" contributed materially.

That means the paparazzi.

So of course the press want to keep the attention elsewhere. Same reason they never report on how there was a huge cheer from the crowds outside Diana's funeral when he spoke of how Diana, who shared her name with the goddess of hunting, was herself hunted by a pack.

(Now, how many reading this post were happy that the current Princess of Wales had been papped on Sunday, and posted about the images?)

ReadWithScepticism · 30/08/2024 08:19

Yuck. Not surprising that the true crime genre is raking this one up again. Women's dead bodies are probably responsible for 90% of its profits. And this particular dead body hasn't been milked much for the last couple of decades so should give quite a decent feed.

Remember that you won't be watching a documentary. You will be watching some storytelling culled from other documentaries.

MagdaLenor · 30/08/2024 08:20

@EdithWeston - we all knew of the huge cheer in response to that part of Earl Spencer's oration. You could hear it in the Abbey! It was widely reported and commented on.
There were also lots of discussions about the paparazzi and their behaviour. Again, this was well known.

EdithWeston · 30/08/2024 08:21

BTW here's the full transcript of the Inquiry

Browse records of other archives | The National Archives

You'll see that most of the points on this thread have been asked and answered (under oath). They called a lot of people (not just in Britain) and a lot of the testimony overlaps. All parties were represented by QCs

ReadWithScepticism · 30/08/2024 08:25

Same reason they never report on how there was a huge cheer from the crowds outside Diana's funeral when he spoke of how Diana, who shared her name with the goddess of hunting, was herself hunted by a pack.

The reason they 'never report' this is that it is news from decades ago. This was all OBSESSIVELY covered and talked about at the time, and the whole story has been researched and analysed in earlier documentaries.
The only reason it is been told again is that 'true crime' is big $$$ at the moment. Probably because people love the kind of armchair theorising and conspiracy mongering that social media is so good at.

ReadWithScepticism · 30/08/2024 08:29

Oh, and also, any righteousness about how "the goddess of hunting, was herself hunted by a pack" should keep in mind that this new documentary is just the same old pack doing the same old hunt. Still chasing the $$$ to be had from Diana. Anyone who watches it is cheering this pack on.

MagdaLenor · 30/08/2024 08:56

@ReadWithScepticism - absolutely! The press reporting went into overdrive. It was talked about and written about in great detail.

MrsLeonFarrell · 30/08/2024 09:46

ReadWithScepticism · 30/08/2024 08:29

Oh, and also, any righteousness about how "the goddess of hunting, was herself hunted by a pack" should keep in mind that this new documentary is just the same old pack doing the same old hunt. Still chasing the $$$ to be had from Diana. Anyone who watches it is cheering this pack on.

This.

EdithWeston · 30/08/2024 10:25

ReadWithScepticism · 30/08/2024 08:25

Same reason they never report on how there was a huge cheer from the crowds outside Diana's funeral when he spoke of how Diana, who shared her name with the goddess of hunting, was herself hunted by a pack.

The reason they 'never report' this is that it is news from decades ago. This was all OBSESSIVELY covered and talked about at the time, and the whole story has been researched and analysed in earlier documentaries.
The only reason it is been told again is that 'true crime' is big $$$ at the moment. Probably because people love the kind of armchair theorising and conspiracy mongering that social media is so good at.

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It wasn't reported at the time either

ReadWithScepticism · 30/08/2024 10:54

EdithWeston · 30/08/2024 10:25

It wasn't reported at the time either

Of course it was! I knew about it, and I haven't watched or read any of the endless programmes and articles about her death that were published in the years after it.

The response of the crowd was evident in the contemporary broadcast of the funeral and in the news reports of it all through the day itself. Spencer's dramatic speech and its popularity were a really big phenomenon at the time. So much so that it became a running joke in my family that at some family funeral or other one of us would make the same truth-telling speech and throw cats among pigeons.

CathyorClaire · 30/08/2024 11:04

Being in a car crash - deliberately engineered or not - is no guarantee that someone will die.

Worth noting too that Diana actually survived the crash for several hours.

According to an expert it was a very small, incredibly rare injury that led to her death so entirely unforseeable and the result of a number of variables any one of which changing might have led to a different outcome.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/royals/princess-dianas-fatal-injury-was-31084448

I wonder where the documentary makers have found these new sources?

Surprised they've managed this given the extensive enquiries made over the years.

MagdaLenor · 30/08/2024 11:09

EdithWeston · 30/08/2024 10:25

It wasn't reported at the time either

Of course it was reported. It dominated the headlines.

ButterCrackers · 30/08/2024 11:21

MagdaLenor · 30/08/2024 11:09

Of course it was reported. It dominated the headlines.

It happened before smartphones existed so all the news was on tv, ceefax and in the newspapers. Look it up - it dominated the news for months as there was an inquest as well.

MagdaLenor · 30/08/2024 11:22

ButterCrackers · 30/08/2024 11:21

It happened before smartphones existed so all the news was on tv, ceefax and in the newspapers. Look it up - it dominated the news for months as there was an inquest as well.

That's what I'm saying. I remember it well. It dominated everything and people spoke about it all the time! It was huge.

ButterCrackers · 30/08/2024 11:27

MagdaLenor · 30/08/2024 11:22

That's what I'm saying. I remember it well. It dominated everything and people spoke about it all the time! It was huge.

I did the post quote wrong - it was for those saying that it wasn’t reported. I agree - it was fully covered in the news. It was on everyone’s minds and spoken about everywhere.

MagdaLenor · 30/08/2024 11:27

ButterCrackers · 30/08/2024 11:27

I did the post quote wrong - it was for those saying that it wasn’t reported. I agree - it was fully covered in the news. It was on everyone’s minds and spoken about everywhere.

Too true. It was the issue of the day, and raked over constantly!

EdithWeston · 30/08/2024 11:41

MagdaLenor · 30/08/2024 11:09

Of course it was reported. It dominated the headlines.

The funeral did, of course, but not that specific response.

And I didn't see the live coverage as back then I was working from an office that overlooked the route and heard it as it happened.

And when I saw the news that day, they mentioned the loud response from the crowds to parts of the ceremony. And they mentioned the Earl Spencer's speech, including the hunted huntress. But did not say that the loudest response came because of that. I noted the omission then, thinking it was self-serving by the press and broadcaster (all of whom had been running papped pictures some as recently as the day before the fatal crash)

I didn't watch every bulletin, but did see both BBC and ITV main news programmes.

For a while, there were no papped pictures published at all by UK outlets, because of perceived public revulsion. Unfortunately that seems to have changed with the welcome to papped images of the current Princess of Wales during the Balmoral break, where they are usually left alone other than if they go to the highland games

MagdaLenor · 30/08/2024 11:43

Yes they did., @EdithWeston I watched it live on tv.
It was referred to on later commentaries. They discussed it on This Morning. It was in every paper, magazine and chat show. Wherever you went, people talked about it.
I remember it clearly because I was a SAHM with pre schoolers. Even the nurse doing my son's checks talked about it.
I've never known anything like it.

MagdaLenor · 30/08/2024 11:45

The minute Spencer used the phrase "Diana the Huntress" it triggered a huge response.
The whole thing was massive.

EdithWeston · 30/08/2024 11:45

ButterCrackers · 30/08/2024 11:27

I did the post quote wrong - it was for those saying that it wasn’t reported. I agree - it was fully covered in the news. It was on everyone’s minds and spoken about everywhere.

For avoidance of confusion, what I meant by the "it" that wasn't reported was the specific connection between Earl Spencer's hunted huntress comment and the loudest roar from the crowd at any time during the procession and broadcast of the ceremony (the reaction to the young princes was astonishing, but it wasn't loud in the same way)

Of course I don't mean that the funeral, including the orations and the crowd reactions wasn't reported. There was massive coverage.
I mean the specific connection.

MagdaLenor · 30/08/2024 11:47

Yes - once again - Spencer's specific remark and the huge response was well known, well reported, well commented on, and the source of much discussion.

EdithWeston · 30/08/2024 11:49

MagdaLenor · 30/08/2024 11:43

Yes they did., @EdithWeston I watched it live on tv.
It was referred to on later commentaries. They discussed it on This Morning. It was in every paper, magazine and chat show. Wherever you went, people talked about it.
I remember it clearly because I was a SAHM with pre schoolers. Even the nurse doing my son's checks talked about it.
I've never known anything like it.

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I know they talked about the phrase - very widely reported, and has stuck in the collective memory.

And I guess if you were watching live the connection might have been more apparent. I didn't see This Morning. I was referring to the main news bulletins on the two major terrestrial channels. Where it wasn't mentioned.

And I remember commentaries at the time about the omission (left leaning print journalism)

MrsSkylerWhite · 30/08/2024 11:50

A driver who was over the limit and a passenger not wearing a seatbelt.

MagdaLenor · 30/08/2024 11:50

Well, as I said, I watched it live.
There was a strong reaction - very well commented on.

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