GB News is losing the plot!

[LimeBiscuit]

I really don’t think there is a ‘contest’ other than in the minds of parts of the media. One brother will be King in time and the other brother wants to leave a meaningful legacy in his own right. So far both are doing a great job in carving out their own lives. I hope the brothers come to a point in time where they can be friends again. Life is too short to hold on to anger. The media doesn’t help by embroiling itself in their relationship - or lack thereof currently. I think many people in many countries would love to see a sense of family togetherness again with all of the current King’s grandchildren getting to know one another. It would show how a public facing family can overcome its own difficulties if KCIII could bring both brothers into line again. It’s time to stop painting Harry as the black sheep of the family. It hasn’t worked, it just drives more dissent and anti monarchy feeling in the younger generation. If we are to have a King William and a King George then the younger generation do need to see the institution as worth holding onto. As Harry is clearly active on the world stage harnessing his global appeal would be an advantageous move by the current King.

https://www.gbnews.com/royal/kate-middleton-prince-william-news-meghan-markle-prince-harry-contest

Well, if it was a PR strategy, it was a truly rubbish one.

Somehow doubt she'd be bothered about some of us calling her Kate when we're not trashing her, quite the opposite.

Because the Palace leaks stories about Harry to kill stories about more senior Royals.

Accepting that you are not a Harry fan and the above is the point you are trying to make, you still haven’t provided a shred of evidence for this point, or answered direct questions about your opinion on what Harry has leaked. Are you able to do that please?

Also it’s a bit rich that you are complaining about posters being rude, when you yourself have been quite insulting about other posters’ abilities to both understand your posts when they are not always made clear (which we are all guilty of on occasion), and to think critically

'Because the Palace leaks stories about Harry to kill stories about more senior Royals.'

You keep stating this as fact and are then unable to come up with any proof that this happened. The Tominey exclusive sounds, tbh, as if it went straight from Meghan’s lips to Tominey' s ear. The way it's couched sounds faintly ridiculous - 'she's sassy, smart and vivacious', 'Meghan is a confident and intelligent woman and she's not overawed mixing with royalty' 🙄, 'William and Kate really liked her and she's fitted in straight away' - there is no way the palace would come out with any of this - it sounds as if it's been lifted straight from Meghan’s LinkedIn page, written by Meghan herself.

Very good points about the tone there, @Gorgonemilezola

And what stories would those be pray tell??!!

You haven't actually said anything of note!!!

Stop splitting hairs! Is that the best you can come back with???

Bit like Harry and Meghan themselves. Hmmmm 🤨😁

I don't know if you were on the RF threads at the same time as a poster named Roussette. Quite often she said that the RF and 'the press' had a symbiotic relationship. You are making the same sort of point, I think. I hope I have understood the word correctly.

Just to add, What About Andrew?

I’d be surprised if the Palace knew the story about him losing his virginity. The woman in question kept it quiet for decades and had he not disclosed that story in Spare, I doubt that we would have ever known the details or identity. The same goes for the prep school matron that he bullied - if he hadn’t mentioned it then both the palace and public would have been none the wiser because nobody he went to school with has disclosed this.

He published intimate stories to justify his paycheck - not because he was worried about the palace disclosing singing seals. He included the caveat that his memory is faulty to protect from lawsuits and people rightly pointing out that things did not happen as he said in the book like the timing of the phone call that the Queen Mother had died. Hugely hypocritical when he is paid to advocate for internet misinformation (or disinformation ?)

Harry has simply carried out a dump of everything he thinks might be leaked by the Palace or they might threaten to leak. And sold a lot of books and made a lot of money in the process.

I don't think Harold has 'dumped' the half of it given he's on record as saying he'd cut enough to fill a second book.

I do think he stuffed his trousers with the proceeds from 'Spare' while the publisher's pockets languished which makes 'Waagh. The Sequel' a rather distant prospect.

It is you who are* insulting - as in, insulting our intelligence.

• deliberate use of the plural.

But no actual answers to specific questions asked or responses to points made.

"I am not going to keep repeating myself"

We'll see.

Look, a squirrel!

This 'they leaked about H&M to cover up something juicier about someone more senior' keeps being trotted out.

But no-one seems to be able to.provide a single example of 'X was leaked to prevent Y being published'. Surely, four/five years on the 'prevented' story would have come out by now?

Why on earth would the tabloids keep.hiding a juicy story (even assuming they would have been persuaded in the first place to substitute an H&M story, instead of just running both stories)?

So, please, just to put us all on the right track:

• what story/stories about H&M were leaked by BP/KP?
• and what stories were suppressed?

Surely anyone confident that this is the case is basing their opinion on evidence, not Harry's unsubstantiated say-so?

So far the only leak that has been shown is the one Meghan had to.admit to.in court, having first denied leaking.

I.mean, even Harry hasn't been able to point to a specific incidence of leak about him and Meghan/ cover up.of a juicier story.

That sort of allegation does need an example to.make it credible to anyone with a shred of critical thinking ability (like most conspiracy theories!)

The tabloids are not going to ignore a juicy story about a senior Royal if offered a titbit about Harry.

The way H&M supporters go on, you'd think other members of the rf have never, ever received any bad press. The tabloids, and even the more responsible press, will publish anything if it garners readers/clicks. They're like ferrets up a drainpipe if there's a sniff of a royal story. The royal family have learned over the years that ignoring most of the bullshit is the best way to deal with the issue, otherwise it becomes a game of whack-a-mole. Harry is learning the hard way that he's not King Canute.

Exactly 👍

This 'they leaked about H&M to cover up something juicier about someone more senior' keeps being trotted out.

It’s a popular TV storyline. It probably happened on the Crown (not with Harry) and I’ve definitely seen characters associated with the White House or The Police use this line. (“Don’t publish this story but I’ll grant you an exclusive interview with a more senior person /story” sort of thing.)

Btw I know that The Crown is made up in a lot of parts to make it more exciting for TV but there are a lot of Squaddies who treat it like a documentary.

I am sure it helps with a plot line!

I just can't see it working in real life! I am open to evidence though, and as I said, after 4/5 years those juicy hidden stories would surely gave emerged by now?

Disclaimer: the following comments are intended to be humorous and not to be taken seriously:

In Spare 2: Return of Spare, we will be privy to the full details of the bridesmaid dress saga, complete with texts.

Also, Harry will accuse KC of neglect because he didn't teach Harry how to take care of rescue chickens.

Edited for typos.

I'm reading Lady C's updated book on the Sussexes (no doubt legalled up to the eyeballs before publication). The day after the Camiila Tominey article breaking the news of the relationship, which was in the Express (which remains very pro H&M, along with the republican Mirror group newspapers - so much for hostile British tabloids), Meghan got a big write up in one of the Toronto newspapers, including a timely promotional splash for her new Reitman's clothing collection. So she no doubt directly benefited from going from being a virtually unknown soap actor about to be written out of her small role, to becoming the love interest of the word's most eligible prince within the space of 24 hours. Meanwhile, the palace were apparently scrambling because they were already worried about her from their background checks. So a secret is broken to the press at a point where the palace might be trying to tell Harry to slow it down, and at a point where Meghan would actually benefit most from the news getting out. Why on earth would the palace have wanted this news to come out? Exactly how would it have benefitted the RF?

I’m still here. Been busy.