Meghan and Harry spotted out and about - ¡Viva Colombia! Edition (Part 7)

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Welcome to Part 7 of our positive threads, where we explore all things Meghan and Harry. From the causes they champion and their business ventures to Meghan’s (and occasionally Harry’s 😉) fashion moments, there’s a lot to chat about. This is a drama-free space, so let’s keep it upbeat! High five to @queentim for the original inspiration.

@Finistereoverthere at least the RF is open about what it owns.

https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/23589012.hundreds-foreign-property-owners-stayed-hidden-scotland/

If I link to evidence, I usually link to accounts, to direct statistics or like my link above which is an article detailing the FOI request.
I always note if it’s hearsay or to take with a pinch of salt (like the blind items, an article or something on X), but that won’t be posted to back up a point I’m making. I’m very careful to be able to back up points that I claim as fact with solid links. An example is the Netflix viewing figures. I was asked on another thread where I got my information from and I linked to Netflix directly. I don’t think my evidence is superior, but it is accurate and usually solid or I’ll state it to be hearsay.
Otherwise, it’s just my opinion that is formed from watching and listening, mainly to the Sussexes themselves. Also, the fact that they have such a high turnover of staff and lack of support from friends speaks volumes to me also. (Thinking back to the jam and the lacklustre posting of the lemon basket with ARO jam).

I think they are the underdogs engaged in a probably unwise David and Goliath battle against the pretty formidable soft power of the Monarch and some factions of the establishment.

And they are certainly engaged in a David and Goliath struggle with the press.

Just to be clear, despite being accused of adolescent “fandom” 😀 I don’t really care about any of them personally on either side.

But I think it serves certain interests that they remain at the focus of people’s attention as they generate revenue and distract from what is really going on.

I think the whole lot are rather spoilt and are all victims of circumstances to one degree or another. On both sides, imho, they are ordinary flawed people with the same problems as most us with more ready cash, far more daily help, better quality clothes, houses and cars, longer holidays, more opulent surroundings and far less privacy,

But it’s an interesting power struggle on the one hand and an interesting topic in relation to press freedom and standards on the other.

The other reason I have some sympathy for them is I really don’t like pile ons. And as explained previously, I think it’s downright bizarre and unfair when they are accused of greed when somehow the RF are not!

For example, people were suckered in by the stories of the late Queen eating muesli out of plastic Tupperware and Prince Philip turning out lights at BP while all of the murky stuff alluded to in this Guardian article in 2018 is hushed up! Remember the Paradise Papers anyone? Before the papers were leaked it was not transparent that the then PoW had offshore investments in certain areas and that an old friend of his was running a company that allegedly managed some of them!

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/jun/28/royal-family-finances-day-transparency-press www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/jun/28/royal-family-finances-day-transparency-press]]]]

Honestly, I wish people would switch their focus from H & M and look at what is really going on!

And they are certainly engaged in a David and Goliath struggle with the press

But they are only seeking to control the narrative when it comes to the press. They want coverage, but only positive coverage. On their recent tour for example, they took a photographer with them and then tried to sell the photos that they wanted released. No other press coverage was allowed. That is a form of censorship

And released video with no audio.

We are not allowed to hear the Royal Couple without permission 😂

@Finistereoverthere lots of stuff is going on. This is a thread about Harry and Meghan, and the entertainment they have provided with the Colombian tour. If you want to talk about other stuff, fine, start a thread.
As I said, a couple of greedy, lying chancers who'd sell anyone - but particularly family - for 30 pieces of silver are hardly "underdogs"

It's amazing how many new posters stumble on to the royal boards, claiming no real interest, don't particularly like Harry and Meghan but suddenly come across loads of articles supporting them and slagging off the rf.

I'm always amused by the assertion that these people "aren't really fans of theirs" and "don't care either way" but then spend ages writing multiple lengthy posts defending them and normally pointing fingers at the RF.

Most peculiar 😂

Yes, epic posts with numerous links and statistics - I’d be hard pressed to supply that much background info on something I’m an expert on; I can’t imagine having half the internet’s worth of articles on a subject I’ve merely stumbled upon…

And there was me thinking that you all supplied endless indisputable “facts” and hard evidence for your assertions, or that was what I was told a few posts back, but that’s ok of course 😀 because they are all relentlessly negative towards H&M!

I don’t see how or what I have posted is any different tbh.

I think if you dare to be negative about the Sussexes, some people get very upset! 😂they're clearly above criticism, according to some!

Yes I back my posts up with hard evidence. Unlike you with your spurious claims that you admit you can’t back up and provide evidence for. Your problem with that is? Oh the clear difference is that I do back up what I post. Yours is just your opinion that you pass off as fact.

Dear me. It's my opinion. I will voice that opinion if the mood takes me, thank you very much. I don't need to be patronised either.

I'm only a few years younger and I can see straight through the pair of them. I don't admire them one bit. I think their behaviour has been terrible. What the poster you're defending has been saying comes directly in the category of 'fangirling' and I just find it rather sad. I don't revere anyone in that way, nor am I "enthralled" by anyone. I'm not that bothered whether they're happy or not but I don't wish them any ill. I just wish they would shut up tbh!

@Finistereoverthere "In your opinion! Why bother doing charity work at all if they are so selfish? They are not obliged to do it."

And you had the absolute audacity to lecture me!!!

@Finistereoverthere "And it always makes me laugh when H and M are characterised as greedy when..."

I will tell you exactly why they are greedy! They had access to all you cited, a lifestyle that most people can't even imagine, and it wasn't enough for them!! They wanted more; they wanted to earn megamillions.

And if that isn't blatantly obvious then it's a pity of you.

But I don’t think Netflix viewing figures are “proof” of much one way or another frankly.

I think they have cut themselves off from a considerable chunk of it haven’t they?

Perhaps the privacy of their dc was more important to them?

Not understanding your point at all Runner sorry.

I am not lecturing anyone. I am airing a different viewpoint.

Those children would always have privacy. Funny how Archie and Lilibet never been papped in the UK, only the USA and Canada.

I can't understand it either @CoffeeCantata. It just baffles me. It makes me feel faintly queasy and very uncomfortable!

I like reading about the RF but I know they are humans and they fuck up sometimes too. I'd criticise that too! There are members of the family who rarely put a foot wrong, like Anne, Catherine and of course, the late Queen. I don't know what Andrew has or hasn't done but I don't want to see him. I always thought he was an arrogant twat anyway. Even he though is loyal to the RF. Nobody has dissed them so comprehensively and so publicly (and repeatedly) as Meghan and Harry.

Fangirling M&H imho is naive, infantile and creepy.

There seems to be a lot of points you aren't understanding tbf.

How do you know?! You weren’t part of the thread. The Netflix link was concrete evidence of the point that I was making which is why I was asked (challenged) about the source of the information. Ridiculous of you to make this comment when you don’t know the facts about the thread.

They didn’t intend to cut themselves off from anything but the sovereign grant, which was about 5% of their income as working Royals.

Their first plan (half in, half out) remember was to still be funded by Charles (the half in bit), but also earning a private income. They said so in their manifesto when they announced their departure.

Then when that wasn’t possible they just had to rely on earning their own income. Which has been a bit up and down to date - some big wins, but more losses than wins overall.