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H & M announce a visit to Colombia

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ShamedBySiri · 01/08/2024 17:09

Prince Harry and Meghan Markle announce they will visit Colombia

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Another country on the "Don't travel" list.

"But the UK and US governments have both issued security alerts over travelling to Colombia amid fears over crime, terrorism, civil unrest and kidnapping - and Harry's decision to visit comes amid his ongoing battle for his security when in Britain.
The UK's Foreign and Commonwealth Office 'advises against all but essential travel to parts of Colombia'. And the US Department of State issued a travel advisory for Colombia stating: 'Reconsider travel due to crime and terrorism. Exercise increased caution due to civil unrest and kidnapping. Some areas have increased risk.'"

Perhaps he thinks this is the way to get his security reconsidered? Personally I'd say the opposite.
If he still had UK security I'd expect them to do a risk assessment and say "NO".
Why should security personnel be put at risk by being required to travel to these dangerous destinations.

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JADS · 13/08/2024 11:34

Do ND agreements have a time limit?

It's really shitty that H&M can go to their mouthpieces, be it People or Omid, to insinuate someone wasn't good enough, yet the little people with their ND's can't say anything.

How much would a slander court case cost?

EsioTrotlove · 13/08/2024 11:49

InsomniacIda · 13/08/2024 11:15

I read somewhere that Meghan has stopped Harry having a 40th birthday party with his mates in the UK (those that remain). Don’t know if that’s true. Just a quiet time with her instead. 😂

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I doubt his friends are that interested in getting involved in any further drama with Harry. Tom Bradby, maybe.

Rhaidimiddim · 13/08/2024 11:57

smilesy · 13/08/2024 11:33

Is he saying he can’t give 28 days notice of his birthday? 😂

😆

Rhaidimiddim · 13/08/2024 11:58

EsioTrotlove · 13/08/2024 11:49

I doubt his friends are that interested in getting involved in any further drama with Harry. Tom Bradby, maybe.

I think Tom Bradby got burned in that last interview

friendlycat · 13/08/2024 12:21

They do seem to get through staff at an extraordinary rate. Certainly some may be a bad fit, but all of these people? It's not as though they are just random people that have worked for them. Many have had significant previous roles and successful careers to date.

The timing is also extremely odd. If he was a bad fit and it were mutual, one would assume that he would have at least fulfilled this tour and then quietly left.
They are obviously a nightmare to work with hence the high turnover of staff.

Unfortunately, they really don't seem to get much right and this tour is another example of really not thinking it all through. They have in the past had access to people with brains and logical thinking but one has to wonder how much they listen to any advice, if any.

Gradually their "stardom" gets less shiny with each passing day.

Deep down I wonder what they really think of the situation they are in, or whether they just feel victims and blameless in it all. And it all could have been so different.

EsioTrotlove · 13/08/2024 12:25

Rhaidimiddim · 13/08/2024 11:58

I think Tom Bradby got burned in that last interview

True, Harry made him look a right tool. But he was once close to both brothers, and I doubt William would have anything to do with him now. So to stay close to the ongoing story, he will have to stay close to Harry. ITV are very pro H&M also, and Tom Bradby wields a lot of influence as their head honcho news anchor - it wouldn't surprise me if he was part of the negotiation for ITV to interview Harry for the phone hacking documentary.

EsioTrotlove · 13/08/2024 12:35

Deep down I wonder what they really think of the situation they are in, or whether they just feel victims and blameless in it all. And it all could have been so different.

One of the most egregious things for me is how much the timings of the deaths of QEII and PP are blamed for their lack of success/popularity, not to mention a global pandemic and people fighting to make a decent living during the writers' strike. No doubt the illnesses of Charles and Catherine will eventually be blamed for the failure of ARO.

Mylovelygreendress · 13/08/2024 12:57

JADS · 13/08/2024 11:34

Do ND agreements have a time limit?

It's really shitty that H&M can go to their mouthpieces, be it People or Omid, to insinuate someone wasn't good enough, yet the little people with their ND's can't say anything.

How much would a slander court case cost?

I’ll contribute!

Puzzledandpissedoff · 13/08/2024 13:23

It's really shitty that H&M can go to their mouthpieces, be it People or Omid, to insinuate someone wasn't good enough, yet the little people with their ND's can't say anything

I don't disagree, @JADS, but that's the risk they take in working for people without any apparent integrity

It's not as if H&M's behaviour choices are unknown, so the answer is for employees to choose more wisely next time - which is exactly what an increasing number seem to be doing

smilesy · 13/08/2024 13:57

Puzzledandpissedoff · 13/08/2024 13:23

It's really shitty that H&M can go to their mouthpieces, be it People or Omid, to insinuate someone wasn't good enough, yet the little people with their ND's can't say anything

I don't disagree, @JADS, but that's the risk they take in working for people without any apparent integrity

It's not as if H&M's behaviour choices are unknown, so the answer is for employees to choose more wisely next time - which is exactly what an increasing number seem to be doing

NDA’s are becoming increasingly irrelevant when it comes to the Sussexes it would seem. The fact that their staff turnover is so high would seem to be speaking for itself. The only common denominator is the Sussexes themselves

JudgeJ · 13/08/2024 13:57

OlympicWomen · 11/08/2024 14:10

Unbelievable hypocrisy.

Not at all unbelievable, totally par for the course.

OlympicWomen · 13/08/2024 14:23

JudgeJ · 13/08/2024 13:57

Not at all unbelievable, totally par for the course.

Quite.

IcedPurple · 13/08/2024 15:14

JADS · 13/08/2024 11:34

Do ND agreements have a time limit?

It's really shitty that H&M can go to their mouthpieces, be it People or Omid, to insinuate someone wasn't good enough, yet the little people with their ND's can't say anything.

How much would a slander court case cost?

Not sure about a time limit. However - and I am open to correction here - I think that a person can be 'released' from an NDA with the agreement of the organisation or individual who required it. In this case, that would presumably be Kensington Palace.

EsioTrotlove · 13/08/2024 15:25

If their CoS has quit and they are off to Colombia on Thursday, whose job is it to make sure they don't get kidnapped or photographed with any more criminals?

OlympicWomen · 13/08/2024 15:48

EsioTrotlove · 13/08/2024 15:25

If their CoS has quit and they are off to Colombia on Thursday, whose job is it to make sure they don't get kidnapped or photographed with any more criminals?

Dunno, but it'll be the fault of the RF if they are. Or the UK press.

EsioTrotlove · 13/08/2024 16:18

The vice-president who's invited them, Francia Marquez, has been accused of being a n'er-do-well, so that's the criminal part ticked off. She's apparently in charge of the whole thing and will be controlling what pictures and videos come out, I don't think the general press will get a look in. So if they get kindnapped, it's her fault.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/royal-family/2024/08/11/harry-and-meghan-used-colombian-government-distraction/

miri1985 · 13/08/2024 16:22

Just saw the news of them losing another member of staff. Do you remember how we were told when all the staff were quitting when they were working royals that they couldn't handle the pace because of Meghan's American work ethic and it was a clash of cultures with the Brits being lazy?

Whats the reason now that so many American staff members have quit?

Thinkingabouttherapy · 13/08/2024 17:06

EsioTrotlove · 13/08/2024 11:49

I doubt his friends are that interested in getting involved in any further drama with Harry. Tom Bradby, maybe.

Sounds plausible- his ‘sources’ were definitely mentioning an extended visit to the U.K. in August (without Meghan) and Harry’s hopes that Charles and William would be guilt-tripped into attending his landmark birthday party… then it all went quiet on that front, which was when the stories about Charles needing to pay for H’s security started up again, presumably pre-empting any leaks regarding the abject failure of his birthday reconciliation plans..

Mylovelygreendress · 13/08/2024 17:19

What about domestic staff ?

Mylovelygreendress · 13/08/2024 17:20

Thinkingabouttherapy · 13/08/2024 17:06

Sounds plausible- his ‘sources’ were definitely mentioning an extended visit to the U.K. in August (without Meghan) and Harry’s hopes that Charles and William would be guilt-tripped into attending his landmark birthday party… then it all went quiet on that front, which was when the stories about Charles needing to pay for H’s security started up again, presumably pre-empting any leaks regarding the abject failure of his birthday reconciliation plans..

Most of the RF will be in Scotland for most of September.

Vespanest · 13/08/2024 17:43

With their staff, their PR costs, archewell staff and the security cost they must be blowing through their money. That’s ignoring Harry’s pet project of legal cases. I don’t think Charles could afford them even if he was that way inclined as there would always be I need more.

BunnyLake · 13/08/2024 17:46

EsioTrotlove · 13/08/2024 11:08

I think they have been trying to replace the "men in grey" / the "insect men" with similar staff who will do everything for them while they just turn up and smile. But it's an impossible task for anyone not part of an institution where those roles and that machinery are honed to perfection. I hope Harry is starting to see the value in those experienced courtiers he vilified.

Very good observation. It’s all
part of their attempt to have their own ‘court’ and make the public think they’re important. They forgot to remember the palace is a thousand years of traditions and protocols and yes those might change as times change but the backbone of it will always be there. They also don’t have the kind of money that can keep such a high level and number of ‘men in suits’ at their beck and call. Heck, Adele has more money than they do.

Hughs · 13/08/2024 18:31

The whole idea of them needing a Chief of Staff is beyond ridiculous 🤦‍♀️

pearlfritillary · 13/08/2024 18:47

I confess I had to google what a 'Chief of Staff' does.

Came across a piece from the Harvard Business Review from which I've lifted the following text

quote
The most sophisticated chiefs of staff also assist CEOs in thinking through and setting policies—and making sure they are implemented. They anticipate problems and are especially sensitive to issues that require diplomacy. They function as extra eyes and ears by pointing out political potholes their bosses may not recognize
unquote

poor, poor Mr Kettler - probably toast from day one

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