German documentary about Meghan

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www.skynews.com.au/lifestyle/celebrity-life/every-detail-will-be-checked-bombshell-meghan-markle-documentary-delayed-while-producers-seek-legal-advice/news-story/e56d56d3e60f37af6a31da01b455f0b2?amp

I have seen several newspapers referring to this German documentary. It's the first I've heard of it.

I've said on the unpopular opinions thread that I think Meghan pushed hard to get their relationship into the open very early on. The spooning bananas, H&M necklace, little hints about being the luckiest girl in the world...
And I think she really pressured Harry into releasing the statement in November 2016 to establish herself as his girlfriend in the public eye.
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And the threatening to split up with him if he didn't go public with their relationship. I guess he ignored all the red flags!

And the threatening to split up with him if he didn't go public with their relationship.

Goodness! I hadn't realised that.
Fits in though.
Almost feel sorry for desperate old Harry.

All true, but I bet she thought he had access to a lot more money than he did.

I see it in the BTL comments in US publications regularly, and sometimes here too. People think the properties and assets of the Duchy of Lancaster (that funds the Monarch) and the Duchy of Cornwall (funds the heir) belong to Charles and William respectively. But they don't - they are vehicles to fund those members of the RF, and are disbursed at the discretion of the Monarch and the Heir ( with external oversight).

If MM though that Harry, son of the head of a very wealthy family, had a stake in that wealth ( he doesn't, he only has inheritances from the private wealth of his ancestors) she will have been seriously disappointed. H&M's joint worth is estimated to be just twice what the Duchy of Cornwall yields in a year.
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The wealth part is something that should be addressed for the next generation of royals. I know for many this is champagne problem but I can imagine the realisation for Meghan that instead of getting paid you are afforded an expensive lifestyle that is never really yours. So should you split like Diana and Fergie you just need to hope for a good settlement as what’s theirs remains theirs, there’s no 50% of the marital home. It’s one of the things I don’t blame Meghan for is pushing the ability to create their own wealth even though it would never work. It also places the married in partner vulnerable to custody of the children.

If that's not cynical and controlling, I don't know what is!

Yes and the Wild About Harry Vanity Fair cover and interview.

In Hollywood circles, these sorts of mutual back scratching “friendships” are arranged to maximum effect to raise profiles and make useful connections. I doubt “my good friend” is anyone other than someone they met a couple of times at the odd charity event, the photos of which raising their mutual stock in the philanthropy industry, and providing some profile raising column inches in the entertainment rags. These friends will not be bringing each other chicken soup when they are sick.

Inflictus, this is what I was trying to say upthread. While I cringe at Meghan's mercenary and transactional attitude to relationships, I really think it's ingrained in her upbringing around Hollywood film sets. The culture there must be cut-throat, competitive and 'eat or be eaten', so I guess Meghan only understands relationships with people as an opportunity to use that person. Yes, I know she's a textbook narcissist (you could teach A-level psychology from her antics) but I bet her Hollywood childhood hasn't helped.

I think friendships are the exact opposite in royal circles. I would imagine it takes a lot to be admitted into them and loyalty and discretion are demanded from friends. If you look at those people reported to be in K and W's friendship circle, they all go back a long way and have stood the test of time. Then look at how M got H to drop old friends from the evening wedding guest list. Those were people who had stuck by him as friends for years. They were dropped in favour of people like the Clooneys who apparently scarpered when H and M became controversial figures. When I heard old friends of H had been left out of the evening guest list, it was one of the first red flags for me. IME it's never a good sign when someone tries to get their other half to drop old friends.

Exactly! It is like an honour system where the siblings are expected to graft while they are young and "relevant" in return for a stipend from the family, and a grace-and-favour apartment and their keep when they are older.

If they don't reform this system, they risk having more members of the RF falling prey to the Epsteins. Harry is already for hire.

I think perhaps having her primary care giver as a person who doesn’t seem sociable or to have had friendships, an absent mother and no siblings, she just didn’t learn normal social behaviour. Everything was turned inwards so she focused on herself. How to get herself noticed and approved of. How to feel she mattered and was important. Being mixed race made her self conscious at school, so perhaps her appearance became something that assumed a lot of significance. She was perhaps living in a bit of an emotional vacuum, so she filled it the best way she could. She’s unable to understand other ways to relate. That’s my take .

H&M's joint worth is estimated to be just twice what the Duchy of Cornwall yields in a year

Which may sound a great deal to normal folk, @Rhaidimiddim, but the Sussexes lack the mechanisms to farm off many of their costs onto the taxpayer

Unless the RF are still subbing them or richer friends are still coughing up, which is something we can't know, they're on the hook for the lot, and their lifestyle isn't cheap

Of course they don't have to live in a mansion - there are plenty of options between a scruffy condo and their current choice - but whether either would consider a downgrade acceptable is something else again

Of course they don't have to live in a mansion - there are plenty of options between a scruffy condo and their current choice - but whether either would consider a downgrade acceptable is something else again

As a bit of an aside, I really don’t get the need for 16 bathrooms unless you live with a lot of extended family or have huge house parties on a regular basis. You have to make sure you flush all the loos regularly or they dry out and you get bad smells ( this happened to someone we know because they had a guest bedroom with en suite that wasn’t often used). Seems a bit of a faff to me 😂😂

Perhaps a new position in their "royal" household could be created: Master of the Royal Flush or something.

Agreed.

I'm.hazy on the details, but to me it was absolute madness that Harry was given a Dukedom on marriage anyway. It could have been reserved for a few years later when the Queen died and they had shown their chops more as working royals.

But then I think if we're going to have Dukedoms, they should be appointed representatives of causes - diplomatic and socio-cultural posts that are more representative of talent than birth, outside of the direct heir.

There clearly isn't a "need" for it, @smilesy, but to a certain mindset excess like this says "Look what a huge success I am!!"

It also sites the owners alongside others who really do have the success to afford such a lifestyle, leading some to assume that H&M's achievements must match even when that obviously isn't the case

And that's what I meant about a more modest choice perhaps not being acceptable - not because of the home itself but more what it would suggest

No sympathy here. Meghan and Harry have spent years making their nasty little netflix series and their nasty little Oprah interview snd Harry's countless podcasts and interviews and his nasty little book. Literally years spent lying and saying vicious defamatory hurtful things about his family. Maybe it's time Meghan got a taste of her own medicine. Let's see how she likes nasty little documentaries being made about her. After all she's done it to Harry's family for years.

In fact, for me, their worst crime isn't the above - it's the unbelievably tone-deaf and morally-deaf idea that there could ever be any way back for them, either in the RF or in the UK as anything but very private citizens.

I'd be more ready to believe that the moon missions were faked than that anyone could imagine they'd be able to re-build bridges after what they've done. Can Harry really think that's possible? At KC's deathbed, possibly he might be admitted for 5 minutes, but other than that....

@PeachLemonGummy
(Germany has) far more mainstream celebrities who are black or mixed race compared to the UK

I don't know why you say this, it's just not true! There are far more visible black and mixed race people in the UK and Germany.

I have lived in Germany recently. It's really striking how few black and mixed race people there are, especially in advertisements in Germany. Just pick a British and German publication at random or 5 minutes of TV advertisements. The difference is really clear. Regular folk or families are always represented as white in Germany.

I also struggle to think of one newsreader, politician or well known actor in Germany who is not white. Black singers and sports people have always been 'acceptable' celebrities to Europeans but visible in politics, business, news or as 'ordinary' people in advertisements hardly at all in Germany. I know representation in the UK isn't great but is far better here.

You need all those bathrooms when you are full of so much 💩

It is isolating - one of the first signs of a control freak. Isolate from friends and family. It's the stuff of a hundred Netflix shows. Control them. Feed them ideas. It's like a cult.

They need all those rooms and bathrooms for when their family come and visit ... oh no, wait ...
Ok they need all those rooms and bathrooms for when their friends visit .. oh no, wait
.... ok, they need a smaller house

In fact, for me, their worst crime isn't the above - it's the unbelievably tone-deaf and morally-deaf idea that there could ever be any way back for them, either in the RF or in the UK as anything but very private citizens.

I love the implication that reconciliation is in H+M's gift and the fall out is the RF's fault - it's all "Meghan is ready to build bridges with Kate" as if Kate has been sitting there distraught that Meghan doesn't want to be friends. And Harry "can't believe it's lasted this long without being fixed and is determined to fix it" like the RF is too incompetent to make things right 🤦‍♀️

I'm sure they will try to make themselves out as victims when they continue to be cold shouldered. But I don't think there's any PR that can help - William's first priority will be the well-being of his family and I can't see him ever letting H+M anywhere near them, even if public opinion shifts in favour of H+M.

(Also why is Anne's name popping up at the mo? As in, Harry wants to come home for a month to celebrate his birthday, see his father and visit Anne?? Is that because of her concussion or something?)

Maybe Anne does control some of his money.

So the day after Harry “suggests “ it only takes one manic person with a knife or acid look what happens

why don’t u keep ur big trap shut u loser

im not saying he caused the tragedy in Southport but people can be very suggestible and he should think before he speaks

on top of his taliban comments the man is a complete tool