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German documentary about Meghan

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sausawyee · 26/07/2024 09:03

www.skynews.com.au/lifestyle/celebrity-life/every-detail-will-be-checked-bombshell-meghan-markle-documentary-delayed-while-producers-seek-legal-advice/news-story/e56d56d3e60f37af6a31da01b455f0b2?amp

I have seen several newspapers referring to this German documentary. It's the first I've heard of it.

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Runnerinthenight · 08/08/2024 19:59

CurlewKate · 08/08/2024 06:48

@CatrionaBalfour Diana wasn't 20 years younger than Charles"

Apologies-I'm no expert. 12 years. But I remember my parents' concern at the time. And 12 years is still a pretty shocking age gap when one of the people is 19....

There was a bigger age gap between my parents, and they had a very happy marriage. Mum was 18 when they married. It's not unheard of.

CurlewKate · 08/08/2024 21:08

Obviously there stage gap relationships they work. But there were so many factors against this marriage anyway that adding another one was just disastrous.

CurlewKate · 08/08/2024 21:08

*are age gap

RedRosesPinkLilies · 08/08/2024 22:10

I think the problem was more that they barely knew each other. Isn’t it documented that they were engaged having only met three or four times?
It was basically a marriage arranged by other people, and not thinking about the humans involved in the marriage.
I would imagine the Royals have learned a lot from that marriage. It might have worked centuries ago, but it was a disaster of an approach to marriage in more modern times.

JSMill · 08/08/2024 22:31

My parents in law have a similar age gap to Charles and Diana but they both had strong family support. I think Diana was very vulnerable because of her parents acrimonious break up but I don't think in those days people really appreciated how children were affected.

MaturingCheeseball · 09/08/2024 08:18

Exactly as @RedRosesPinkLilies says. They had zilch in common. Charles was a Laurence van der Post-loving old fogey and Diana was a Sloane who liked Duran Duran and Supertramp. It was just an arranged marriage and the trouble was only one party was aware of this.

CurlewKate · 09/08/2024 10:24

"It was just an arranged marriage and the trouble was only one party was aware of this."

Charles expected a traditional very posh man's marriage.

CatrionaBalfour · 09/08/2024 10:26

So did Diana. That's how she was brought up.

InsomniacIda · 09/08/2024 10:27

Well funnily enough neither of her sisters ended up in an arranged marriage.

CatrionaBalfour · 09/08/2024 10:28

InsomniacIda · 09/08/2024 10:27

Well funnily enough neither of her sisters ended up in an arranged marriage.

I think Sarah got close with Charles...both families pushed for that one.
Edit - Sarah, not Jane.

CatrionaBalfour · 09/08/2024 10:29

Jane married Lord Fellowes.

Iwasafool · 09/08/2024 10:31

MaturingCheeseball · 09/08/2024 08:18

Exactly as @RedRosesPinkLilies says. They had zilch in common. Charles was a Laurence van der Post-loving old fogey and Diana was a Sloane who liked Duran Duran and Supertramp. It was just an arranged marriage and the trouble was only one party was aware of this.

It was what she wanted wasn't it. I've certainly read she told her schoolfriends she was going to marry him. Others might have pushed it but I think Charles was the one who wasn't given a choice, she got what she wanted and as so often happens when you get what you want she discovered it wasn't what she imagined.

WatchOutMissMarpleIsAbout · 09/08/2024 10:41

MaturingCheeseball · 09/08/2024 08:18

Exactly as @RedRosesPinkLilies says. They had zilch in common. Charles was a Laurence van der Post-loving old fogey and Diana was a Sloane who liked Duran Duran and Supertramp. It was just an arranged marriage and the trouble was only one party was aware of this.

Then that is on her family. Most of my family myself included have had arranged marriages. It’s on each family to protect their family member.

MaturingCheeseball · 09/08/2024 11:05

Well, I believe the Spencer family were beyond eager to have Diana marry the heir.

My friend (Hindu) had an arranged marriage. She said that she had the right to reject suitors. She lucked out - her dh is very handsome. Grumpy sod tho’ - you can’t have everything!

Theinflictuswithrictusgames · 09/08/2024 11:20

Given the rates of dv, divorce and child abandonment/abuse within "love" matches, I'm not sure old style arranged marriages between families, where all the parties are aware of what they are getting into, is any worse.

WatchOutMissMarpleIsAbout · 09/08/2024 11:20

I kept rejecting until I met dh. I lucked out with him

BigWillyLittleTodger · 09/08/2024 12:39

Didn’t Diana meet him on a shoot when she was sixteen and developed a crush on him from then?

Theinflictuswithrictusgames · 09/08/2024 13:11

Diana knew him from childhood, and he dated her sister first. I'm sure she was starry eyed at the prospect of being married to the heir to the throne. Women of her class and of her time were basically being brought up to seek out a titled and/or monied man. If it hadn't have been Charles, she'd have married some other rich man of her class and would have been an obscure society wife, unknown to the public at large. The platform and adulation she received was as Charles' wife, not as Diana Spencer.

ajandjjmum · 09/08/2024 15:04

As a child, Diana's home was on the Sandringham Estate, and she and Andrew were friends. Her Grandmother was a lady in waiting to the Queen Mum so she was very familiar with the Royal Family. Her father was besides himself with excitement at the royal match, and I doubt he gave any thought to her happiness, just the elevation of the family name.

CurlewKate · 09/08/2024 15:20

@Theinflictuswithrictusgames "Women of her class and of her time were basically being brought up to seek out a titled and/or monied man."

Hmm. Up to a point! I knew a lot of women of her class who had a lot more to their lives than that.

Theinflictuswithrictusgames · 09/08/2024 15:27

CurlewKate · 09/08/2024 15:20

@Theinflictuswithrictusgames "Women of her class and of her time were basically being brought up to seek out a titled and/or monied man."

Hmm. Up to a point! I knew a lot of women of her class who had a lot more to their lives than that.

True, as did I at university and in my profession. They had qualifications and ambition and good careers, but they still ended up in very advantageous matches with men of a similar class. Diana wasn't in their mold - she had no obvious prospects beyond marriage.

Wellieswithsocks · 10/08/2024 00:28

Apparently now confirmed that this programme will be screened on ZDF in December

CurlewKate · 10/08/2024 08:10

This thread is the first time I have realised that Diana is considered by some to be the villain of the piece. I suppose it's all part of the Charles/ Camilla reinvention. Clever old Royal Family!

CatrionaBalfour · 10/08/2024 08:15

Are there "villains"? Maybe just flawed people with their own issues. However, I always baulk at the "St Diana" cult that grew up in the wake of her death.

WatchOutMissMarpleIsAbout · 10/08/2024 08:22

Sorry slight detail.

Diana & Charles were lucky. They met quite a few times before they got engaged.

Most of my family after 4 chaperoned meetings the decision had to be made. There was no going back after either & changing your mind.

My dad did check with me on our wedding day that I was happy to go ahead & I was.

Diana told her sisters she wanted out. They told her it was too late. That’s on her family and no one else.