German documentary about Meghan

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www.skynews.com.au/lifestyle/celebrity-life/every-detail-will-be-checked-bombshell-meghan-markle-documentary-delayed-while-producers-seek-legal-advice/news-story/e56d56d3e60f37af6a31da01b455f0b2?amp

I have seen several newspapers referring to this German documentary. It's the first I've heard of it.

Meghan's alleged secret daughter is an old story but the timing of the OK article is interesting given the TV documentary on her past has been slowed down for legal inspection.

Doesn't seem like a coincidence.

I hadn’t heard it before, presumably it’s easily disproven if untrue

A fair point, Cathy, but if this latest documentary's going to claim she already had a daughter they'd better be able to prove it unless they too want to be sued

Of course if they say it and can prove it that would be interesting, but time will tell

the delays suggest the documentary makers are doing their due diligence, so if it’s untrue I’m sure it won’t be included. As said, I would imagine it’s pretty easily disproven.

Would that apply to this magazine too?

It'll be interesting to see if they sue given the sensitivity they're said to be feeling over the whole 'past' issue.

He may have said it - amongst a million other things he may have said in the midst of what was a massive trauma for him and his sons.

I don't think that anyone who saw him can doubt that he was devastated by her death, particularly sad as they were getting to a better place in their relationship. He must also have been worried sick about the impact this would have on his sons.

Yes he looked distraught when he travelled to France to bring her body home. I can't believe that the RF thought he shouldn't do that. If he was worried he would be blamed for her death, he was absolutely right. So many of my friends and family held him responsible, forgetting Diana had dismissed her personal protection and had got into a car driven by a drunk driver.

Yes Charles looked utterly bereft, it was noted at the time he went to Paris to receive Diana that he wore a dark blue suit which apparently was Diana’s favourite on him.

Well it seems to be the Sussex contention that the British media is monolith of a problem, and that toxic tabloids do not exist elsewhere.

I don't think they are right in this view (the British media consists of many players, and even our tabloids are pretty tame compared to others).

It was the European paps and press pack who were chasing Diana that night in Paris.

I’m sorry but who in their right mind immediately thinks that (re Charles thinking he’d be blamed) unless they themselves felt a stir of guilt themselves about what happened to Diana. The fact that he was right and that people did blame him and the institution is beside the point.

The 'secret marriage/daughter' stuff first appeared (to my knowledge) In Quora, which is based in California, US.

Tonnes of anti-Sussex stuff is churned and amplified by the Californian-based Quora Q&A site.

Did I mention, it's Californian?

Remember when the foreign tabloids were claiming Diana had a secret daughter living in Australia?

I think that any decent human being, under the circumstances, would feel a stir of guilt, simply by knowing that things would have turned out differently had their marriage not failed.

In the cold light of day, of course it wasn't his fault that a drunken driver decided to race paps whilst his passengers were not wearing their seatbelts. Nor that his ex-wife rejected the security that would have prevented this from happening - Bashir can take the credit for that!

I think that Charles was, more or less by definition, at least in part responsible for Diana's disintegration, simply by agreeing to marry a young woman nearly 20 years younger than him while maintaining a relationship a woman who he had loved for years.

I am not disputing that it was an unwise match however there was a 12 year age gap not “ nearly 20”.

I think there’s a bit of post hoc interpretation going on there.

Charles had 2 known mistresses in the run up to his marriage. There was no way of predicting then that one of them would reappear several years later.

The idea that it was a life-long love is implausible - Camilla in particular was very much in love with her first husband at the time of their marriage, but he was one of the inspirations for Rupert Campbell-Black and it is believed that his many infidelities changed things, and that this coincided with the erosion of the Wales marriage and Diana’s first affair (with her bodyguard).

It was the Bashir interview when she said “three in the marriage” but her letters (inquest) showed that at times she thought Camilla was just a blind for a relationship with someone else (not naming in this post, as the person in question has won damages from the press)

So I don’t think it was ever that clear cut - but adopting the line that they were a life-long love has helped tremendously in Camilla’s rehabilitation (plus of course her ability to keep her trap shut)

I agree that the whole thing was a mess and a disaster waiting to happen. But I don't like assigning guilt precisely because it was so complex.

Charles had been given to understand that he must marry a virgin. He fell in love with a couple of women (at least!) before his marriage, but they were not 'acceptable' as potential future queens. I remember that, as well as other well-known girlfriends mentioned here, he was particularly fond of Davina Sheffield but - horrors! - she'd had a previous boyfriend. Thank goodness things have moved on since then.

Diana was a lamb to the slaughter as a 19-year old ingenue with a difficult family background and obvious insecurities. But the Spencer family (her grandmother in particular) were 'guilty' too, because they very much manoeuvred her into the marriage.

Both Charles and Diana had their psychological issues (he a bullied and lonely child/teenager, she growing up without the presence of her mother etc) and, with the pressure and scrutiny they both came under, I just don't think it could ever have gone well.

Why has it been said Charles had two mistresses? He wasn't married at the time.

I wondered that, surely they mean girlfriends? Unless they were married perhaps 🤔

If it’s the 2 I am thinking about , they were both married.

Yes but he wasn't!

Diana wasn't 20 years younger than Charles!

@CatrionaBalfour Diana wasn't 20 years younger than Charles"

Apologies-I'm no expert. 12 years. But I remember my parents' concern at the time. And 12 years is still a pretty shocking age gap when one of the people is 19....

There were 12 years between Diana's mother and father. It wasn't unheard of in her family.

Thank you for making the point that the idea that Charles and Camilla's was a life-long love set in stone from day one, just the same then as it is now, is implausible.