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Post your unpopular royal family opinions?

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DreamyPombear · 24/07/2024 17:24

I will start
I prefer Harry to william

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CandidHedgehog · 29/07/2024 10:53

sausawyee · 29/07/2024 10:46

Money isn't always needed. The biggest input you can have is making a mother feel confident and enabled. I used to work with mothers in a scheme like this and much of it is getting the women off their backsides and phones to interact with their children. It is also to enable fathers or partners to interact with children in the household in a positive way. Not everyone has these skills. They may have been brought up in generational deprivation or in care and lack these. It's about confidence boosting and it may be group team bonding with women and creating small communities in their area which can prosper once set up. It's not all about money.

But the programmes to help people acquire these skills need to be funded. And challenging why the (past) Tory government won’t fund them is very political. Even trying to raise funds charitably raises public questions of why the government isn’t funding the programmes in question.

In my view the type of programme you’ve mentioned above and any consideration of whether it should be rolled out on a large scale is a political hot potato that Kate can’t go anywhere near.

sausawyee · 29/07/2024 10:57

We all know that the person at the top is a figurehead, a well known person who attracts others and yes experts into a concerted group. They are not at the coal face just like Harry with Invictus.

sausawyee · 29/07/2024 10:58

@CandidHedgehog funnily enough the programmes I know of were funded under the Tory Government.

sausawyee · 29/07/2024 10:59

HumanBurrito · 29/07/2024 10:52

Or to put it another way, what has she, with her BA (possibly MA) in art history achieved for early years provision that could not have been done better and more effectively by channeling the same money to actual subject-area experts with PhDs and decades of experience?

Edited

Perhaps this is the same as the costs involved for Harry and Meghan with Invictus?

sausawyee · 29/07/2024 11:01

CurlewKate · 29/07/2024 10:49

@sausawyee "
"Such a cynical view of people in general. Fortunately not everyone looks at life like that. Many people like to embrace a more community minded spirit"

I really don't understand this comment. Could you explain exactly how royal involvement helps the cause less they take up? What has Kate contributed to early years provision?

If you don't understand the role of a figurehead then I can't really explain it to you. Would you say Harry is not needed at Invictus in his current position ? Maybe there should be experts who have trained for it ?

HumanBurrito · 29/07/2024 11:01

But her work involved her own research and writing a report we are told. Pointless.

Wellieswithsocks · 29/07/2024 11:03

HumanBurrito · 29/07/2024 11:01

But her work involved her own research and writing a report we are told. Pointless.

I’m also interested in your view on how Harry contributes to Invictus?

User14March · 29/07/2024 11:04

@HucklefinBerry this was true for one of the pregnancies more than the other re: weight gain.

@sausawyee I can well believe a moon bump could be used for sartorial reasons - what a brill idea esp in the earlier stages ‘is she just fat’ & latterly for a perfect shape for couture. Do you think I can pull it off for an overseas wedding to disguise gluttonous chub? ;) They don’t know me well.

CurlewKate · 29/07/2024 11:08

@sausawyee Yes, I am familiar with the concept of a figurehead. But I'm not sure how a figurehead for "early years" works. What is she a figurehead for? What value does she add?

sausawyee · 29/07/2024 11:09

Can I make it clear that I believe she was pregnant as yes she did show it on her face and elsewhere. For some reason my name seems to have been pulled into the fake bump thing by bad quoting.

sausawyee · 29/07/2024 11:10

CurlewKate · 29/07/2024 11:08

@sausawyee Yes, I am familiar with the concept of a figurehead. But I'm not sure how a figurehead for "early years" works. What is she a figurehead for? What value does she add?

As I said if you can't understand it then I'm not going to explain it . 🙄

CurlewKate · 29/07/2024 11:13

@HumanBurrito Definitely an MA. One of the advantages of a degree from a Scottish University! 🤣
CurlewKate MA Hons

CurlewKate · 29/07/2024 11:15

@sausawyee "
As I said if you can't understand it then I'm not going to explain it "

An odd approach to take. But hey ho.

Likewhatever · 29/07/2024 12:11

https://centreforearlychildhood.org/latest-learnings/news/

Kate hasn’t gone in for showy announcements but think her Early Years work will actually be very impactful.

Our news - Centre for Early Childhood

https://centreforearlychildhood.org/latest-learnings/news

PrettyFlyforaMaiTai · 29/07/2024 12:16

CurlewKate · 29/07/2024 11:08

@sausawyee Yes, I am familiar with the concept of a figurehead. But I'm not sure how a figurehead for "early years" works. What is she a figurehead for? What value does she add?

She funded a trial for health visitors and it produced “overwhelming” positive results. The next phase of the project involves expanding the trial to several new locations.
But the bigger hope is that this system will be used by all health visitors in the UK.

news.sky.com/story/amp/overwhelmingly-positive-results-for-trial-funded-by-princess-of-wales-as-part-of-early-years-work-13098747

HumanBurrito · 29/07/2024 12:19

My thoughts on figureheads broadly are that a) if an issue is important, it should be funded centrally through taxation rather than relying on the whim of a figurehead and b) if figureheads are needed, someone from civil society who has actually achieved something on their own merit is more inspiring than a rather dim aristo who is there by dint of birth.

HumanBurrito · 29/07/2024 12:29

PrettyFlyforaMaiTai · 29/07/2024 12:16

She funded a trial for health visitors and it produced “overwhelming” positive results. The next phase of the project involves expanding the trial to several new locations.
But the bigger hope is that this system will be used by all health visitors in the UK.

news.sky.com/story/amp/overwhelmingly-positive-results-for-trial-funded-by-princess-of-wales-as-part-of-early-years-work-13098747

But it shouldn't take Kate taking a politically expedient interest in early years as a "safe" option for that work to happen.

CurlewKate · 29/07/2024 12:42

@PrettyFlyforaMaiTai You say she funded it. I'm amazed-and delighted to hear that. I didn't think they personally funded things. I'm glad to be wrong.

TheWoodlanders · 29/07/2024 12:43

@sausawyee have you actually watched the ‘popping’ belly video on YouTube? I find it really hard to believe that you, or anyone, could think it is proof of anything at all.

Meghan crouches down to pet a dog and then stands up again. Her stomach at all times looks like that of a pregnant woman. At some point (quite obviously in the background) there is a faint noise a bit like someone dropping a book in the next room. That’s it.

sausawyee · 29/07/2024 12:48

TheWoodlanders · 29/07/2024 12:43

@sausawyee have you actually watched the ‘popping’ belly video on YouTube? I find it really hard to believe that you, or anyone, could think it is proof of anything at all.

Meghan crouches down to pet a dog and then stands up again. Her stomach at all times looks like that of a pregnant woman. At some point (quite obviously in the background) there is a faint noise a bit like someone dropping a book in the next room. That’s it.

I did NOT SAY IT WAS FAKE! Read the flipping posts!!!

sausawyee · 29/07/2024 12:49

HumanBurrito · 29/07/2024 12:19

My thoughts on figureheads broadly are that a) if an issue is important, it should be funded centrally through taxation rather than relying on the whim of a figurehead and b) if figureheads are needed, someone from civil society who has actually achieved something on their own merit is more inspiring than a rather dim aristo who is there by dint of birth.

Does that apply to Harry and Invictus? And Meghan and her cookbook? And Meghan and her bananas?

sausawyee · 29/07/2024 12:51

CurlewKate · 29/07/2024 11:15

@sausawyee "
As I said if you can't understand it then I'm not going to explain it "

An odd approach to take. But hey ho.

Not odd at all. I'm not your personal tutor.

sausawyee · 29/07/2024 12:51

sausawyee · 29/07/2024 11:09

Can I make it clear that I believe she was pregnant as yes she did show it on her face and elsewhere. For some reason my name seems to have been pulled into the fake bump thing by bad quoting.

@TheWoodlanders

PrettyFlyforaMaiTai · 29/07/2024 12:54

HumanBurrito · 29/07/2024 12:29

But it shouldn't take Kate taking a politically expedient interest in early years as a "safe" option for that work to happen.

Well, quite. It also shouldn’t take a footballer to tackle free school dinners, nor a Prince to champion injured veterans. But that’s the state of the world we find ourselves. Hopefully a more compassionate government will champion these things. But at the same time all these initiatives require money and there’s only so much budget. And that’s why society benefits from kindly patrons who have money to support causes they are close to their hearts.

CoffeeCantata · 29/07/2024 12:55

Meghan put on very obvious pregnancy weight around her face, back, arms and thighs.

And I thought she looked great with it - really glowing - in the picture with the late Queen and Archie.

I know I'm wasting my breath...no celebrity wants to be what my granny would have called 'bonny' these days! And Hollywood wouldn't accept anything so healthy-looking.

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