Sussex Whiplash

[ConstantGarden1]

Sometimes, all the different media outlets who purport to know the inner workings of all things Sussex can give me whiplash. One moment the Sussex duo are on the outs with everyone, hemorrhaging or devoid of influential friends, making no headway with Netflix, losing money, can’t afford their mortgage and claimed to no longer be relevant. Then Suits saw an upsurge in viewers - fantastic ratings on Netflix, the BBC buys Suits, Invictus is being promoted via Harry’s award and trips, he receives a heartfelt standing ovation, Meghan finishes filming a new Netflix series purportedly linked to a nascent commercial venture and a new podcast is set for next year.

‘Lonely’ Harry, as some will insist on writing, is also not something that rings true for me. He has too much charisma, energy, interests, causes and is a people person. I also cannot think of anyone who needs to say I am friends with x, y, and z on a regular basis for the benefit or not of strangers. We don’t know who they are friends with, really. Meanwhile, pundits continue to engage those interested in the couple with whatever they can attributing the information to some made up mysterious ‘sources’. I suspect their real friends are quietly keeping their own counsel. Especially, now they have seen the mutual pathological loathing that Harry and the tabloids have towards one another. Can’t say I blame them either.

Now there is this:

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and

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Considering Whoopi G had less than favourable words for the couple I’d like to have been a fly on the wall at any meetings held. No doubt ‘netizens’ will have their microscopes to the ready to give us all their ‘insights’ regarding the events of the evening. No doubt I’ll get whiplash again when all their combined fingers hit the keyboards.

Is that it? Is that the display of "bullying"? Suggesting an aid do their job and help with the coat, while the King and Queen are trying to do the honour of giving their full attention to a bunch of children marching in the heavy rain? I would be bloody irritated! I believe there was an erroneous security concern at the event as well. They were whisked away, but then returned later to finish that part of the visit. No wonder he was on edge.

@BemusedAmerican In some people’s opinion who already dislike them and anything positive relating to them, yes they hold that view. You claiming that this is a worldview shared across the board is not a reflection of the true situation. People remain interested in them. Period. Even a poorly constructed petition failed in its attempt to pour shite over the royal Prince of the blood and had to be labelled and flagged up. As for working. They are multimillionaires, have roles relating to charities, causes, business investments, contracts, and children. Seems a pretty full life and portfolio to me. If they fail at projects that is fine. If they succeed that is fine too. They are beyond the palace and no longer playing by the dictates of the greys.

Now some general point regards myself and how I find this area of the web. Anyone can read or not read. Up to them.👇

I am here taking some downtime from my current project. To those who have had comments deleted due to breaking the talk guidelines - it’s wiser for me to refrain from responding. I won’t engage.

This is a Royal Family discussion board yet some people demonstrate a pattern of bringing other royals into threads even when the focus is not on them. If Harry or Meghan are shown empathy for all the trolling they receive then X or Y royal is brought up as though they must be included every time too. They don’t have to be. A sympathetic stance for Harry can stand alone as just that. Support and protection regarding him is something many people do. Everywhere.

If I respond to a poster then it is usually the polite, sensible, and on topic posters. Those who just want a fight or are going to snipe away I put on mute. Some who have a good sense of humour I also respond to. Just because a person tags me does not mean they deserve an automatic right of reply.

Derailing a thread is also common here. I’ve not seen one where everything including the kitchen sink comes into it. I too managed to derail my own thread earlier with crochet. 🧶

For the record, I like and always have King Charles III. He is my fave. I always thought him a genuine, sensitive and insightful individual. I also like his sons. I also consider Harry and Meghan to be targets of the toxic tabloids. If I post positively about H or M that is my choice. If others want to twist themselves into knots about them they can do. It’s a relatively ‘free speech’ part of the web.

This thread is about the Sussex family. I am content to be able to post some news about them. They successfully broke away, kept service as a core value and continue to interest me. The best accolade for Harry comes from Scotty’s. To be made a global ambassador for the charity late last year was amazing. Covered nicely by the BBC yet hardly mentioned by certain tabloids. That tells me all I need to know about their agenda and their wish to see H and M broken down for daring to do things their own way and not according to the dictates of others in the institution. 👋

@ConstantGarden1

“They successfully broke away”
No . They flounced off because the late Queen would not agree to their demands .
As for being successful , I really don’t see much evidence of that . The only things that have generated an income have been things where they slag off the RF .

👌😘

It's so boring and predictable - H+M not invited to Balmoral. Then Kate goes to Wimbledon, looks well, gets standing ovation, big cheers, nice press coverage. New cock up for H+M around the same time with the row over the Pat Tillman award, leaving early, Venus and her obvious distaste.

Cue endless pathetic threads about how marvellous H+M are and how marvellously well they're doing 🤦‍♀️
Why bother? Who is it even for?

"royal prince of the blood"
That's a very interesting turn of phrase, @ConstantGarden1 Do you believe that Prince Harry has some sort of immunity because of his birthright? Do you think he can't be called to account or held responsible for his behaviour?
His core value appears to be a strong desire for publicity and lucre, nothing remotely noble about that!

I know. It certainly wasn't their choice to break away completely, they just wanted to make money privately and also do the bits of official royalty which suited them.

Hear Hear! Well said. And thanks for the post. Always like to know how they are doing.

I remember watching Tyler Perry saying he reached out to Meghan when he saw all the reactions from certain people towards her. He had experienced similar and said to contact him if she needed him. That was just mind blowing! What a guy. They keep good company.

People remain interested in them. Period.

So you're American?

Or just adopting Americanisms out of adoration for your beloved 'American royals'?

They successfully broke away,

You're making it sound as if they were imprisoned.

Meghan had only been in the royal family for about 5 minutes. Had she not married into said family nobody, including you, would care about her.

When they decided to 'break away,' by which of course they meant keeping all the trappings of royal life that suited them, nobody lifted a finger to stop them. The dramatic language is mildly comical.

And given the money, fame and popularity they had 4 years ago when they 'broke away', I'm not sure they've been all that successful.

Unless you measure in dog biscuits?

Be fair, @IcedPurple . There's jam as well 😀

Apart from flogging their dirty laundry, I don't think they have achieved any great 'success'.

I think most of us who are critical of H & M's behaviour are not people "who already dislike them and anything positive relating to them". I always liked Harry. I was pleased when he met Meghan. I was interested in and positive about them. However, that evaporated over time when I saw how they were behaving. I have no idea how anyone condones it. They're lazy and greedy, and I think they have treated their families terribly.

They did NOT "keep service as a core value"! They shat all over it for money.

'They did NOT "keep service as a core value"! They shat all over it for money.'

Yup - service isn't so universal after all.

Their core value wasn't only to make money, it was to make money by betraying his family's privacy and to tell lies about them. For years.
There are better ways to make money.

Great OP, @ConstantGarden1 , and great post above.

Whenever I dip into these RF boards I notice the same pattern of H&M bashing from morning to night by the same group of posters, all sharing insults and stating that their views about H&M are the Absolutely Universally Accepted Gospel Truth, Amen, and if you disagree you’re Evil Sussex Squad.

I do like your description of the appropriate stance to take in the face of this - as not everyone can devote every waking hour to bashing people who are complete strangers to them on social media.

That “mute” button is really rather handy… 😂

Anyway, in other news, I can’t wait to see the ITV documentary with Harry and Hugh Grant about phone hacking….

"H&M daring to do things their way" what way is that?
Entitlement, greed and mendacity? Well, it's certainly a way!

Certain orgs repeat things over and over until they break you down and you accept what they say. I don't think anyone here is too susceptible.

When I log into these threads I see probably the same posters name-changing frequently and posting OTT adulation towards this pair of grifters. Make it make sense?!!!

I hope you all call Hugh Grant a coward for settling his case like you did with William.

Only if you have talent. These two don't, so it's all they've got. That's why they have to cling onto the titles for dear life, even though they are apparently doing it "their" way.

Nice name gyal! (or dude)

Go Invictus, and Go Harry! Continue totally ignoring the hateful comments! I should imagine that with the first ever winter sports Invictus just six months away, and plenty of organising and fundraising to do, Harry and the Invictus team have better things to do with their time than engage with people who do nothing but complain, rage and rant all day long in social media…

(as do many of us)

He was well within his rights to write about his own family regarding his own experiences. The institution thought they could control the narrative and break Harry. They did not succeed. Willy’s justification for his treatment of Harry was that Harry left. What a load of 💩. Harry revealed himself through an excellent ghostwriter. Great content and well balanced. All those reviews and comments from the majority of Spare readers on Amazon are brill. His many, many roles. More Books. Appointments. Invites. Contracts. Netflix. Such a long list reflecting the energy of a fully grown adult human being. Looks like the spare brother got even bigger on the world stage. 😂

What fundraising does he do? The last games only had £2m from donations, and half of that was from William and Catherine. What money does he raise? What money does he contribute? Why do the veterans have to pay their own way? Where's all the money going?

That “mute” button is really rather handy… 😂

What mute button? Is that on the app 🤷‍♀️

The idea that they have been successful is laughable. The NF series and Spare did well because people are interested in behind the scenes of the RF. Apart from that, what success have they had?

• Spotify contract terminated early
• only one podcast made, didn't do very well and reportedly Meghan didn't have much to do with it
• called grifters by ex-colleague
• Megan's book was terrible and widely panned, nothing similar since
• Live to Lead didn't do very well and was just a buy-in of other people's stuff anyway
• no sign of the film adaptation
• animation Pearl cancelled by Netflix
• Heart of Invictus didn't do well, failed to make NF top 10
• launch of ARO farcical, hardly any recipients of the jam owned up to it publicly
• no acting or voiceover work since the elephants despite Harry touting for that kind of business with the Disney guy
• no big brand partnerships of note and Dior were quick to deny any association
• Archewell donations massively down
• polling still awful, consistently much less popular than W+K on both sides of the Atlantic
• Meghan forced to apologise for lying to the court about collaborating with OS
• not much from Harry apart from odd awards that are reportedly bought to make him look good
• not invited to big A list events like the Oscars and Met Gala
• 40 x 40 project apparently quietly dropped
• signed for Lemonada months ago but no content made
• 2023 biggest losers in Hollywood according to the Hollywood Reporter

Daring to do things their own way indeed 🤔

'Willy’s justification for his treatment of Harry was that Harry left.'

What on earth are you talking about?

All the 'appointments' are among the same circular group of people, you scratch my back, I'll scratch yours. Totally meaningless.

He's getting to the stage where he'll turn up at the opening of an envelope.

Imagine thinking he's actually organising anything in terms of Invictus. Do you think he's involved in the logistics? Perhaps he's booking the flights or the hotel accommodation? Making sure everywhere is accessible for the athletes? Planning nutrition requirements?

Funny how those bashing the RF claim they do nothing behind the scenes but think Harry is running Invictus single handed.