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Sussex Whiplash

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ConstantGarden1 · 17/07/2024 23:14

Sometimes, all the different media outlets who purport to know the inner workings of all things Sussex can give me whiplash. One moment the Sussex duo are on the outs with everyone, hemorrhaging or devoid of influential friends, making no headway with Netflix, losing money, can’t afford their mortgage and claimed to no longer be relevant. Then Suits saw an upsurge in viewers - fantastic ratings on Netflix, the BBC buys Suits, Invictus is being promoted via Harry’s award and trips, he receives a heartfelt standing ovation, Meghan finishes filming a new Netflix series purportedly linked to a nascent commercial venture and a new podcast is set for next year.

‘Lonely’ Harry, as some will insist on writing, is also not something that rings true for me. He has too much charisma, energy, interests, causes and is a people person. I also cannot think of anyone who needs to say I am friends with x, y, and z on a regular basis for the benefit or not of strangers. We don’t know who they are friends with, really. Meanwhile, pundits continue to engage those interested in the couple with whatever they can attributing the information to some made up mysterious ‘sources’. I suspect their real friends are quietly keeping their own counsel. Especially, now they have seen the mutual pathological loathing that Harry and the tabloids have towards one another. Can’t say I blame them either.

Now there is this:

https://www.paleycenter.org/join-us/support-us/paleyhonors/

Frank A. Bennack, Jr., Chairman, Maureen J. Reidy, President & CEO

and

Tribute Chairs

Ariel Emanuel, Jon Feltheimer, Whoopi Goldberg, Taraji P. Henson, Matt Johnson, Jeffrey Katzenberg, Gayle King, Debra L. Lee, Mellody Hobson and George Lucas, Scott Mills, The Honorable Nicole Avant and Ted Sarandos, Kerry Washington, Prince Harry and Meghan, The Duke and Duchess of Sussex

Invite You to

Cocktail Reception 6:30 pm
Dinner & Program 7:30 pm

The Beverly Wilshire Hotel
9500 Wilshire Blvd. Beverly Hills, CA 90212
Cocktail Attire

Considering Whoopi G had less than favourable words for the couple I’d like to have been a fly on the wall at any meetings held. No doubt ‘netizens’ will have their microscopes to the ready to give us all their ‘insights’ regarding the events of the evening. No doubt I’ll get whiplash again when all their combined fingers hit the keyboards.

The Paley Honors Fall 2024

    Frank A. Bennack, Jr. , Chairman, Maureen J. Reidy , President & CEO   and Tribute Chairs Ariel Emanuel ,  Jon Feltheimer ,  Whoopi Goldberg ,  Taraji P. Henson ,  Matt Johnson ,  Jeffrey Katzenberg ,  Gayle King ,  Debra L....

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Mymilkshakebringsallthepapstomycar · 19/07/2024 18:49

Rhaidimiddim · 19/07/2024 18:38

A fire in - what was the deliberately demeaning phrase she used for the Governor's Residence - government housing?.

And thus p1ssed off the half of South Africa she hadn't p1ssed off with the dancing-in-the-streets-like-when-Mandela-was-released story in an earlier one.

A housing unit. And Archie wasn’t even in that room. And it wasn’t even a fire.

Baital · 19/07/2024 18:50

Not to mention the self pity that no one had asked how she was doing.

Compared to the women she was meeting...

BigWillyLittleTodger · 19/07/2024 19:03

PrincessMee · 19/07/2024 00:00

"They must be doing something right with all that charisma and royal sparkle as the people just keep lining up to welcome them into that golden stratosphere "

What on earth does this mean? 😂

Sounds like something Meghan herself would say, over the top, flowery and above all self congratulatory.

IsoldeWagner · 19/07/2024 19:07

"through the lens of our golden stratosphere, our fans can admire our charisma and royal sparkle and thank us for our service, right?"

Uricon2 · 19/07/2024 19:12

I read once that before her death, Diana had a few issues she wanted to highlight in the UK. I can't remember all the details of how it was meant to work but it seemed to involve her actually being in documentaries about them, involving small grass roots charities and doing frequent updates/fundraising/profile raising. I remember thinking at the time that it sounded well thought out and as if it would have done good, it really struck me and I always wondered if that was behind the comment before her death "you'll be surprised at what I do next".

She had a much bigger profile than Harry could currently dream of and yes, was held in higher esteem because of especially the landmines campaign. I really think she had reached the point where the dresses and jewels and glamour weren't about her, but what she could achieve with them. I don't know if it's true, but she apparently turned down being the face of Dior as incompatible with her work.

Harry and Meghan should perhaps think about such a model.

WinnieTheW0rm · 19/07/2024 19:27

CoffeeCantata · 19/07/2024 18:09

TheRecollection
Neither of them look happy at the moment because their pigeons are coming home to roost.

I agree, and this is undeniable - although some brainwashed propagandists have tried to claim otherwise. It was quite painfully obvious at the ESPY event. Harry looked on the brink of a panic attack, and the set of Meghan's jaw, as Venus glared at her, was really rigid. That was one 'professional' smile. And whatever the propagandists say, there is really no explanation for that awful, embarrassing mass-exodus unless they felt uncomfortable and unwelcome, which I think they did. I think they both panicked and decided to leave before things became too difficult.

The bottom line (apart from everything else they've messed up and misjudged) is that no-one trusts them. And their 'friendships' do seem to be very transactional rather than based on a real personal connection and...yes, trust.

PPs have mentioned their inability to take advice, and I agree. That's been the problem from the start. William's advice to Harry about taking things slowly, the 'men in grey suits' who managed Harry's PR and gave him a lovable persona, the Queen, KC, plus any number of staff and PRs. But I bet no-one DARE give them advice they don't like. I'm sure they're so immature and petulant that they surround themselves with 'Yes-men and women'. They've had a huge staff turnover and it must surely be partly because when they're given professional advice and they don't like it, they sack people - or bully them into resigning.

I remember listening to psychiatrist Dr Raj Persaud talking about why Harry's therapy is probably seems not to be doing him any good - because no-one wants to tell him the truth. He wouldn't be receptive to facing up to any difficult or unpleasant aspects of his own character or conduct.

I was prepared to write off much of the stuff about rictus grins and staying sitting as the nastiness of US gutter sites. You can always find a pic that serves your confirmation bias.

But I cannot think of a reasonable explanation for the discourteous early departure.

BigWillyLittleTodger · 19/07/2024 19:40

Baital · 19/07/2024 18:43

They could have had the best of both worlds if their ego hadn't got in the way.

Used Archie's birth to say they wanted a private family life with their young family.

Kept some patronages eg Invictus and other particular interests.

No doubt KC3 would have kept funding them, and they could have lived most of their lives in California with everyone's goodwill.

But the need to be victims - when facing the consequences of their own actions- overtook all that. Their resentment that the majority of people didn't take them at their own sense of importance, because most people could see their only platform was Harry's position in the RF.

I wish I had had their opportunities! Not because I would want to be part of the royal circus, bit because they could have had immense opportunities while largely opting out of the circus. If their egos gad allowed it

Exactly, if they had done this and also completely dropped all their titles they would have had a similar situation to the Tindalls, pursued commercial ventures and still be invited to all the high profile family events, trooping, royal ascot etc. but no, the pair of them are so fuelled by spiteful envy of William and Kate they had to try and ‘take them down’ what a pair of absolute fools.

Rhaidimiddim · 19/07/2024 20:02

Mylovelygreendress · 19/07/2024 18:43

She referred to it as a housing unit !

Thank you. I knew that the term she used was one used in the USA to refer to what we'd call.in the UK council housing. But it was a bl@@dy great mansion.

Rhaidimiddim · 19/07/2024 20:13

Uricon2 · 19/07/2024 19:12

I read once that before her death, Diana had a few issues she wanted to highlight in the UK. I can't remember all the details of how it was meant to work but it seemed to involve her actually being in documentaries about them, involving small grass roots charities and doing frequent updates/fundraising/profile raising. I remember thinking at the time that it sounded well thought out and as if it would have done good, it really struck me and I always wondered if that was behind the comment before her death "you'll be surprised at what I do next".

She had a much bigger profile than Harry could currently dream of and yes, was held in higher esteem because of especially the landmines campaign. I really think she had reached the point where the dresses and jewels and glamour weren't about her, but what she could achieve with them. I don't know if it's true, but she apparently turned down being the face of Dior as incompatible with her work.

Harry and Meghan should perhaps think about such a model.

I believe I read somewhere that the " you'll be surprised at what I do next" was her going over impromptu to a press pack, and she was referring to Bodyguard 2.
Tina Brown writes movingly (I think, in The Palace Papers?) about having lunch with Diane a few weeks before she died. She describes Diana as having a very clear idea of which causes she would champion, and outlining convincing strategies in how she would progress them.

IsoldeWagner · 19/07/2024 20:19

Harry and Meghan use Diana and exploit her. They seem to forget that she had another son, one who doesn't monetise his relationship with her.

WinnieTheW0rm · 19/07/2024 20:21

Rhaidimiddim · 19/07/2024 20:13

I believe I read somewhere that the " you'll be surprised at what I do next" was her going over impromptu to a press pack, and she was referring to Bodyguard 2.
Tina Brown writes movingly (I think, in The Palace Papers?) about having lunch with Diane a few weeks before she died. She describes Diana as having a very clear idea of which causes she would champion, and outlining convincing strategies in how she would progress them.

On her divorce, Diana relinquished a huge number of patronages, keeping only about 6, which were the ones that mattered a great deal to her and where she thought she could make a significant impact

ConstantGarden1 · 19/07/2024 20:46

Mymilkshakebringsallthepapstomycar · 19/07/2024 17:07

How remiss that those of us spending our time to set out a considered discussion aren’t doing it in a style commensurate with your enjoyment. My deepest apologies.

😊

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Gorgonemilezola · 19/07/2024 21:07

BigWillyLittleTodger · 19/07/2024 19:40

Exactly, if they had done this and also completely dropped all their titles they would have had a similar situation to the Tindalls, pursued commercial ventures and still be invited to all the high profile family events, trooping, royal ascot etc. but no, the pair of them are so fuelled by spiteful envy of William and Kate they had to try and ‘take them down’ what a pair of absolute fools.

Or as William and Kate and taken time to settle into their marriage, their little family (living in Nott Cott quite happily), attending the main events but cementing their relationship, no doubt learning all the ins and outs, taking their time to make sure they didn't fuck it up, basically.

Mymilkshakebringsallthepapstomycar · 19/07/2024 21:09

LactoseDeservesTolerance · 19/07/2024 17:59

Please stop now. You are derailing this thread. @Mymilkshakebringsallthepapstomycar has done nothing wrong, and in fact I prefer to see the quotes.

Forgot to say thank you earlier. Thank you.

Mymilkshakebringsallthepapstomycar · 19/07/2024 21:14

Gorgonemilezola · 19/07/2024 21:07

Or as William and Kate and taken time to settle into their marriage, their little family (living in Nott Cott quite happily), attending the main events but cementing their relationship, no doubt learning all the ins and outs, taking their time to make sure they didn't fuck it up, basically.

I read that QEII suggested the Sussexes go off on an extended honeymoon similar to the one she and Philip went on. The suggestion was rejected in favour of “hitting the ground running”.

But let’s face it, they never had any intention of staying. Not at all.

Rhaidimiddim · 19/07/2024 21:16

Mymilkshakebringsallthepapstomycar · 19/07/2024 21:14

I read that QEII suggested the Sussexes go off on an extended honeymoon similar to the one she and Philip went on. The suggestion was rejected in favour of “hitting the ground running”.

But let’s face it, they never had any intention of staying. Not at all.

"hitting the ground runn8ng"

Shame no-one specified, runniing in which direction.

PrincessMee · 19/07/2024 21:20

Spongers

TallerSally · 19/07/2024 21:50

ConstantGarden1 · 18/07/2024 23:41

I agree and I have noticed the same. Week in week out the same posters working up a sweat 💦 over the couple. I’m baffled why this happens all the time but hey ho I just keep on supporting and staying positive. I’m a big ol’ softie and I am pleased that Harry cares and takes action. Meghan too. He doesn’t send out a ‘tweet’ saying I support x, y, z. Instead, he does… you know actual…work. Any news H and M wish to share is then found on their own website or via the organisations they work with. They must be doing something right with all that charisma and royal sparkle as the people just keep lining up to welcome them into that golden stratosphere. It’s a shame the tabloids keep blowing up the UK’s image with their transparent games and tricks. Enough see through it now so that’s another win for a Prince of the royal blood (I say that phrase because the media here also tried saying he was no longer royal as he resigned). Eventually, the hacks realised it would not wash. Instead they tend to use ‘non working royal’. An oxymoron if ever there was one. 😂

Yes, I’m looking forward to that programme as well. 😊

The ‘mute button’ is a metaphor for an action which I think we both tend to deploy (how else do you stay sane 🥳).

Oh, I found this today:

https://kvia.com/news/us-world/cnn-world/2024/07/18/prince-harry-fast-facts-2/

Enjoy your week and see you on the Sussex boards. I enjoy your positive posts very much. Lifts the spirits when dealing with life’s problems. 😁

Thanks for your lovely post, and for sharing the Harry Fast Facts link!

I remember the days when I used to think he was a tw*t after the nazi costume and party boy incidents. Da man has come SUCH a long way since then, and whilst like any human being he isn’t perfect, most of what he does these days commands respect: Invictus, his philanthropy and causes, of course, as well as his sticking it to the mostly repulsive British media and their groupies, as well as to those who used him in the royal households, and who continue to use him and Meghan to shore up their declining popularity even in the UK (the Republic protesters grow in numbers with each major BRF appearance, check out the turnout at the recent Kings speech)

And check out the latest numbers on the steadily declining support for the British monarchy. Maybe their most ardent supporters should spend a bit less time whingeing to each other about H&M online, and instead try to talk some real people aged under 30, the majority of whom don’t support the monarchy… Not sure the Totally Unbiased And Objective List of the 256 Ways M&H Are Total Pieces Of Gobsh*te is going to convince many under 30s, though… may instead have the opposite effect! 😂

Anyway, whatever. Go Invictus!

ConstantGarden1 · 19/07/2024 21:53

Gorgonemilezola · 18/07/2024 23:59

Would genuinely love to know what creative activations are.

And how Harry can describe himself as a mental health advocate while slagging his family off and openly supporting a group of people, thanking them publically for their support and taking members of the group on overseas pseudo royal tours, who have been so vile about his brother, sister in law and their young children is gobsmacking

He did not slag them off. He explained how they treated him. Considering how the Royal Family present themselves from Prince Philip onwards as ‘the firm’ it is not surprising that he felt the way he did after everything that happened.

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Swisscave · 19/07/2024 21:55

He ‘explained’ through multi million dollar book and Netflix deals. Classy

Mymilkshakebringsallthepapstomycar · 19/07/2024 22:01

TallerSally · 19/07/2024 21:50

Thanks for your lovely post, and for sharing the Harry Fast Facts link!

I remember the days when I used to think he was a tw*t after the nazi costume and party boy incidents. Da man has come SUCH a long way since then, and whilst like any human being he isn’t perfect, most of what he does these days commands respect: Invictus, his philanthropy and causes, of course, as well as his sticking it to the mostly repulsive British media and their groupies, as well as to those who used him in the royal households, and who continue to use him and Meghan to shore up their declining popularity even in the UK (the Republic protesters grow in numbers with each major BRF appearance, check out the turnout at the recent Kings speech)

And check out the latest numbers on the steadily declining support for the British monarchy. Maybe their most ardent supporters should spend a bit less time whingeing to each other about H&M online, and instead try to talk some real people aged under 30, the majority of whom don’t support the monarchy… Not sure the Totally Unbiased And Objective List of the 256 Ways M&H Are Total Pieces Of Gobsh*te is going to convince many under 30s, though… may instead have the opposite effect! 😂

Anyway, whatever. Go Invictus!

I’m glad you see fit to forgive a racist. He made the P**I jibe some time after the Nazi costume, when he was supposed to be an officer in the army. Are you forgiving that too on behalf of POC like me? Are we supposed to be grateful for your forgiving nature towards a serial racist?

Why do you call yourself a republican, but support 2 lazy grifters with royal titles?

Where is Invictus going without its CEO?

Mymilkshakebringsallthepapstomycar · 19/07/2024 22:04

ConstantGarden1 · 19/07/2024 21:53

He did not slag them off. He explained how they treated him. Considering how the Royal Family present themselves from Prince Philip onwards as ‘the firm’ it is not surprising that he felt the way he did after everything that happened.

How did Catherine treat him such that he would describe her marriage as being one where she is a brood mare rather than a woman loved and that her children need protection?

Do you think it will be ok if the Palace releases its files on Harry to give their side of the way he was treated?

Rhaidimiddim · 19/07/2024 22:06

TallerSally · 19/07/2024 21:50

Thanks for your lovely post, and for sharing the Harry Fast Facts link!

I remember the days when I used to think he was a tw*t after the nazi costume and party boy incidents. Da man has come SUCH a long way since then, and whilst like any human being he isn’t perfect, most of what he does these days commands respect: Invictus, his philanthropy and causes, of course, as well as his sticking it to the mostly repulsive British media and their groupies, as well as to those who used him in the royal households, and who continue to use him and Meghan to shore up their declining popularity even in the UK (the Republic protesters grow in numbers with each major BRF appearance, check out the turnout at the recent Kings speech)

And check out the latest numbers on the steadily declining support for the British monarchy. Maybe their most ardent supporters should spend a bit less time whingeing to each other about H&M online, and instead try to talk some real people aged under 30, the majority of whom don’t support the monarchy… Not sure the Totally Unbiased And Objective List of the 256 Ways M&H Are Total Pieces Of Gobsh*te is going to convince many under 30s, though… may instead have the opposite effect! 😂

Anyway, whatever. Go Invictus!

Go Invictus?

I think it's gone.

ConstantGarden1 · 19/07/2024 22:12

TallerSally · 19/07/2024 21:50

Thanks for your lovely post, and for sharing the Harry Fast Facts link!

I remember the days when I used to think he was a tw*t after the nazi costume and party boy incidents. Da man has come SUCH a long way since then, and whilst like any human being he isn’t perfect, most of what he does these days commands respect: Invictus, his philanthropy and causes, of course, as well as his sticking it to the mostly repulsive British media and their groupies, as well as to those who used him in the royal households, and who continue to use him and Meghan to shore up their declining popularity even in the UK (the Republic protesters grow in numbers with each major BRF appearance, check out the turnout at the recent Kings speech)

And check out the latest numbers on the steadily declining support for the British monarchy. Maybe their most ardent supporters should spend a bit less time whingeing to each other about H&M online, and instead try to talk some real people aged under 30, the majority of whom don’t support the monarchy… Not sure the Totally Unbiased And Objective List of the 256 Ways M&H Are Total Pieces Of Gobsh*te is going to convince many under 30s, though… may instead have the opposite effect! 😂

Anyway, whatever. Go Invictus!

You’re very welcome. ☺️

He has grown so much! I feel rather maternal towards him I must confess. It’s ironic how the stats show a declining relevance for the Monarchy and the ‘firm’ despite the Mail’s best efforts to ‘crown’ a new saviour out of the POW. I can’t say I am impressed much with what little I have heard from her when speaking but she and William have done their bit for mental health awareness in the past. The sad aspect is that they fell at the first hurdle when it came to Harry’s new relationship. Considering mental health advocacy is incredibly important to H and M I find that I no longer buy in to anything the heir might say on that subject. If he truly cared he would show it now and always.

As you say, Go Invictus! 🦾🏆🎉

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