Hugh Grosvenor got a whopping £4 BILLION tax break from the British taxpayer when he became Duke of Westminster - what for?

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Yeah.

£4bn that could have been invested into public services in the UK. £4bn that hard-working tax-payers are having to make up for.

The usual feeble protests about this inheritance tax (IHT) break being the law or tradition just won't cut it - laws and traditions that aren't in the public general interest and just exist to uphold the privileges of a small (and in this case unarguably underserving) minority can and should be changed.

Because, what exactly has Hugh £10bn fortune Grosvenor done for the British public to deserve a £4bn IHT break?

And so pathetic to see the media skirt around the issue, as they fawn over his wedding today and try to faff about irrelevant peripheral pseudo-dramas instead.

£4bn, folks!

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/royal-family/2024/06/07/duke-of-westminster-olivia-henson-wedding-latest-news/

They are no longer working on behalf of the rf though. William is.

OP you have made allegations with nothing to back up this claim.
@Dahliasrule anyone can set up a trust. They are not the preserve of "the rich". The problem is that few people seek professional advice in estate planning. And they likely don't give the glorious tax breaks alluded to here.

I've just checked Graham's X feed I'm too extreme for even him ! I would rather have a bad Napoleon than a good King !

Right, so the outrage over the DOW tax management is only relevant because of William being his usher. So actually the outrage is a complete sham (never mind clearly based on ignorance of trust law).

pathetic nice attempt at deflecting from the issue we're discussing here, sorry it's not working!

So given people have now explained to you that the Duke will pay inheritance tax and that its not necessarily immediately in the publics interest for his estate to be abruptly broken up and our food supply interrupted and potentially passed into the hands of people who might not have the UKs best interests at heart, have you changed your mind?

Because I'm not sure the sniping at people mentioning the royal family (unsurprisingly given its the royal family topic) is doing much to discuss the issue either

To be fair to the OP any of the stalwart Royalists on here could have started a thread about the Royal A team's return to fulsome service at the D-Day Commemerations with plenty of meat on that bone to have a respectful discussion on the role of the RF in the national story. plus outfits and all the rest. Instead it has been the usual H&M pile on, who as far as I know since Nigeria have been keeping a low profile. Classy.

I wasn't aware that the Duke of Westminster was a member of the Royal family. I'm sure the OP would get more traction on another forum since IHT is a topic that affects many people.

Have you looked around for any threads about the d- day commemoration? There is one but it wasn’t started by anyone in favour of the RF…

I have and I'm on the Sunak one. That said this niche forum would have been the ideal place to start a positive one about the RF and it would no dount be respecful and rightly so. I made a snippy comment a few days ago about the H&M obsession and someone noted that there wasn't a lot going on at the moment. Well now there is but back to the same old, same old. Surely at some point you will tire of this obsession and concentrate on something more positive.It can't be healthy.

Well that’s true. What are the chances of electing this guy?

Are you actually posting on this thread for any reason other than fulfilling an H&M obsession? It’s not clear?

No attacking Sunak for his unbelievable mistep. Nothing to do with the Royal Family. The King didn't cut and run - despite having cancer.

So given people have now explained to you that the Duke will pay inheritance tax and that its not necessarily immediately in the publics interest for his estate to be abruptly broken up and our food supply interrupted and potentially passed into the hands of people who might not have the UKs best interests at heart, have you changed your mind?

This one genuinely made me laugh out loud!

Since when did your opinion and that of a few others become gospel?

Let's keep debating, folks. Some are SO desperate to shut down this discussion, you'd think it was their £4bn we're p*ssed about!

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Tell that to the poster who started the thread about Camilla at the D day ceremony on this (Royal Family) board 😊

I didn't think it was gospel, I asked if it had changed your mind because you keep demanding debate, and telling people not to talk about the royal family in the Royal family topic, but not contributing to the debate yourself.

So I didn't say it was gospel, or right, or true, I asked if you had changed your mind. Or you know had any more thoughts on the debate you keep demanding other than telling people off?

The fact is tje Grosvenor family isn't paying enough. The 6% every 10 years is too low. Whilst the breaking up of the estate is possibly valid, letting them off with that deal is ludicrous.

Evidently his 21st birthday cost £5 million. These are the people who should be paying more not middle England.

In another note - he is the 3rd of 4 children. Why are male heirs still inheriting? Why isn't this a breach if the equality act?

Why also can't one of his elder sisters pay a fiver and say they are now a male called Bob since according to all parties transwomen are women, then transmen must be men and able to inherit. Or is it different when you've got money. A question for Sir Kier perhaps?

Well she has every right to do that and comes from a principled postition. My point, which is being studiously ignored is where was the fulsome Royalist one taking pride in their country,their history and their pre-eminent families role in all of this. Could even have had snippy Harry's gone AWOL comments inserted into the narrative as required and kept that candle burning at the shrine ! Just a thought, far be it for me to brigade your opinions.

There is one in S&B 😊

I remember his dad was on the telly once donating 10k (probably tax deductible) to children in need so you can't say they don't do their bit!

Primogeniture is an exception under the Equality Act, including for GRC holding transmen. It was going to be an exception under the proposed self ID legislation, which shows you what a crock that all was. I would happily see the back of it. I'm glad QEII issued new letters patent so that future heirs to the throne are not bounced because they are female.

It is exactly the point (if it’s true- I don’t know if it’s accurate or not). You claim he inherited money and got a tax break. Now you claim he didn’t and the money is in a trust.

so you need to get your facts straight first

This thread needs to be moved to legal, where the OP will hopefully get some tax/wills lawyers to help her with her non royal family related questions.

Yes maam!

Well here's the thing: there's the wood... and then there's the trees.

Whatever the mechanism, and irrespective of who else uses it, Hugh £10 Billion isn't paying anywhere near enough IHT.

Whatever the mechanism, and irrespective of who else uses it, Hugh £10 Billion isn't paying anywhere near enough IHT.

What's that got to do with the Royal Family topic?