Porkies, Perfidies & Pomposity - Harry and Meghan thread 2

[YaMuvva]

I do not take credit for the title

First thread here

Shall we continue the discussion? I will not be engaging with the posters spouting damaging and unfounded gossip

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/the_royal_family/5084429-why-do-harry-and-meghan-tell-porkies-that-are-so-easy-to-prove-wrong?page=1

Absolutely. We've seen too much of that from the Sussex Squad and their supporters on here, and those vile rumours attacks on Kate and William.
No need.

I feel the same about CEOs of large companies. They seem to be paid what I consider a ridiculous amount and I find it hard to believe they work harder than nurses, to use an example. But I don't actually know what a CEO does so how do i know how hard they work.

Being the CEO of a large company is, at a minimum, a 9-9-6 kind of job. Working from 9am to 9pm six days a week. Frequently more.

But in addition to the long hours, CEOs get paid a lot because they are carrying the can for the whole company. If something happens that causes a reputational crisis, or there ms a downturn in your market, the CEO will be in the hot seat. A report in January showed that more than a quarter of CEOs who left global listed companies in 2023 were fired.

So, do you fancy being Dame Alison Rose, CEO of NatWest, sacked last year for being unwise in her conversation with a journalist sitting next to her at a dinner (when you are a CEO you can never let your guard down in public, ever). Or do you fancy being the CEO of M&S, ditched because you’ve not been able to crack the problem of rising global costs and a market flooded with poor quality clothes produced in overseas sweatshops? (Who can?). Or Paula Vennels? (Leaving aside my fervent hope that I never lose sight of the vital question -like are we the baddies? - as she seems to have done, no way would I want to be her right now. But if politics, the markets, your luck, changes a bit any CEO could face that)

I agree. I need to not succumb to shouts of links please if I haven’t wanted to link in the first place. You live n learn

I hate any of the nonsense about the children. That makes me really cross.

There are so many links floating about flower.

As a rule I don’t click on many but my nose was poked. 😁

It would have been interesting if it had been about a staff v employee difference - and there may or may not have been a glimmer of truth in it.

Just a shame they went with the insults first.

And the person interviewing was as much of a mealie mouthed gibbering fannet as OW was.

You only had to look at H at that wedding to know he was the one hungover while W looked fresh as a daisy. This was confirmed by newspaper reports at the time that H had been up late drinking at the Goring hotel. Yet another lie to make him look good and W look bad

Around 2.20 onwards. H looks VERY hungover.

William looks great! So happy.
Imagine saying those things about your own brother on his wedding day.

To take your example for Nurses, and expand it further.

Even within Nursing there is vast differences.

Do ICU Nurses work harder than ED Nurses, or ward Nurses? Or Nurses at OPD? Do Surgical ward Nurses work harder than Medical Receiving ward Nurses, or Care of the Elderly?

I'm a Clinical Nurse Spcialist and work set hours and days. I don't work nights or weekends, and I'm clinic based. Do I work more or less hard than a District Nurse, or a ward based Nurse?

That's why I always find it a bit off to say certain people work harder, because that assumes others don't. I would loathe to do what the Royals do, and would find that really stressful. Personally I'd say both William & Harry are aware of what hard work is. Harry when he was deployed, and William during the many years he worked Search & Rescue and Air Ambulance. William showed dedication in those roles, I'm sure he applies the same dedication to his duties as a Royal.

Just speak to the people at the homeless charities he visits. His work there is the very opposite of showing up with a camera crew in tow, posing then going home.

I remember watching the wedding and someone remarked that Harry looked “worse for wear”!
If William was then he certainly hid it better….

Many people that come into contact with H&M will be bound by NDA, certainly all their employees will be.

Media companies, newspapers etc won’t open themselves to being sued by paying someone to break an NDA so I don’t think there is big bucks to be made.

If someone has a genuine salacious story, they can go anon, put the story out and add to the rumour mill - people will discuss it, some will believe and others won’t as it’s come from as an unverified source.

But equally, someone could make something up, a complete work of fiction, and follow exactly the same process.

And the problem is, we can’t tell the difference.

'cosplaying royals'

Sorry- have not RTFT but had to comment on this.

That is the perfect description.

Don't worry, I watched until they started talking about their house being rented out. I think whoever it is, is either a total fantasist or has something or someone muddled up.

And the problem is, we can’t tell the difference

We really can't, add in photoshop and AI (there's an awful video of Catherine apparently speaking about not being seen doing the rounds) and it's very difficult to know what's true and what's not- scary really.

Yeah, William doesn’t look even remotely hungover. Harry, I feel sorry for him actually. Been there. Well, not there exactly, but having to keep it together when I felt like hell.

He looks like he was going to throw up 🤮

Harry looks rough

He looks like he was going to throw up

Yes, I thought he looked as if he was desperately trying not to puke.

Harry looks like he is about to heave !

William looks very fresh.

At the start of that clip, the commentator says 'they are the friendliest and most affectionate pair of Royal brothers ever"🙁

How sad 😢

It is sad. And it was entirely avoidable.

And, I think, irreparable.

It really is so sad. I do wonder how Harry feels about it all now. Has it panned out how he's hoped? In his interview with Will Reeve in February this year he said how he loved his family and would visit them as much as he could. It all felt a bit melancholy, considering the state of things. My sympathy is limited though, he did bring so much of this on himself. I could understand them wanting to leave their royal roles but they didn't have to bin all the relationships along the way, with seemingly no concern for the impact their words and actions had on anyone else.

Fucking hell, that commentary is bloody horrible for someone's wedding day.

"Why don't the public like William?"
"Diana said Harry would make a better King"
"But Harry is just so fun... and so naughty" said in a breathy voice

William looks very comfortable, even though his hair got a bit messed up by his hat. Harry looks sweaty and uncomfortable. Who was out on the lash the night before? If it was William, that man looks good with a hangover.

I agree, it's very sad.
I'm sure it was a difficult adjustment for Meghan and she did get a hard time from the press (like a lot of royal women did) , she was welcomed by the family though and many people were happy that she and Harry were getting married. I'm trying to think when the tide started turning, obviously the Oprah interview but before they left the UK , was it when she told wotisname that no one had asked if she was ok when they went to Africa ?

That certainly didn’t go down too well if I recall.

Bloody tone deaf too.