Porkies, Perfidies & Pomposity - Harry and Meghan thread 2

[YaMuvva]

I do not take credit for the title

First thread here

Shall we continue the discussion? I will not be engaging with the posters spouting damaging and unfounded gossip

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/the_royal_family/5084429-why-do-harry-and-meghan-tell-porkies-that-are-so-easy-to-prove-wrong?page=1

Is making death threats not a crime in the US? Incitement to hatred? There is a difference between freedom of speech and actually threatening people and their families.

Why are H&M keen to end bullying and social media hate but consort with some of the worst offenders? Can a Supporter please come up with a valid explanation for this?

I completely agree.

Unfortunately, there are people who don’t want to read or participate in these threads in a constructive way. They would learn a lot if they did, but it’s easier for them to stay with the same blind and delusional rhetoric of poor saint Meghan and Harry.
These people don’t recognise or won’t acknowledge that the couple perpetuate the online ‘hate’ culture surrounding them and others as well as their own victim-hood.
As @Vespanest posted, Meghan and Harry, hire people such as Bouzy and Ian Sexton for bots and data manipulation. Sussex squad members such as Sarah Data will run over 30 accounts on a platform such as X at one time driving the agenda. The Sussex Squad aren’t a group of individuals like us getting together and having conversations. They are an organisation. It’s a business, an expensive one! That is funded and which trolls, bullies and harasses people. Meghan and Harry are at the centre of it, they not only condone it, they help orchestrate it.

I will post on as many threads as I like thank you very much. As much as Meghan and Harry and their supporters want to control and police everything, it’s a democratic platform so these conversations will continue. Thank goodness because someone needs to hold their actions to account and yes, I enjoy it, it’s called critical thinking.

There’s a significant difference in discussing behaviours, actions, lies etc than just being purely hateful because someone doesn’t like a book

Heaven forbid we do anything other than fawn over the whiney over privileged millionaires conplaining that daddy cut them off

If HATE to live in a world where we can’t speak out against liars because of their status

🤣🤣

The thing is whilst that’s annoying I can live with it - but for two people who stamp their feet and demand change when anyone dares criticises them, to not only turn a blind eye but apparently ENCOURAGE significant bullying of their cancer stricken SIL in their name - that shows me they’re nasty selfish people. And no I won’t STFU about it

The latest thing that has tickled me online is that someone found a Derren Brown post he made after meeting the P&POW at the Royal variety performance last year. He posted a picture of him and Catherine captioned something like “She then slipped a piece of paper into my hand and when I read it it said “help” #DameEdna”

Now those of us old enough to remember know this is a rehashed joke because the late great Dame Edna made the same joke at the Royal variety once about the Queen, and Derren is playing tribute to Dame Edna (and IIRC there was a tribute at the variety show because Barry died last year)

Except ‘squaddies’ are losing their mind over it and think it’s real and have been abusing Derren Brown for not helping her. It’s funny but also disturbing and he had to release a statement explaining the joke.

The absolute mania these idiots cause is unparalleled.

I don't see very much that's hateful here TBH. Never seen a death threat for instance.

As for it being a circus maybe if the Harolds reined in the clowning a bit there'd be less to discuss. Got to say I hope they don't though 😁

Heaven forbid we do anything other than fawn over the whiney over privileged millionaires conplaining that daddy cut them off

And TBH, we post about them because a) they really are the gift that keeps on giving and b) nothing much is going on with the rest of the RF right now.

I'm not seeing 'hate' and 'vitriol.' Not since Easter time when certain posters buggered off and all deleted their accounts at the same time, anyway. Quite a coincidence, that.

Probably because of the 'royal tour' of the very rich parts of Nigeria, it was everywhere on SM and it may have jogged his memory in remembering what an idiot Harry really is.

If they stopped leaking and planting stories, most of which lack honesty, if they supported Invictus and didn’t detract from it with attention seeking pap set ups, “exclusive People magazine” articles and self serving speeches, then going on faux Royal Tours. If they didn’t pay WME for endless puff piece PR and to keep them in the public eye, then the media wouldn’t be able to have any content. They don’t mind the media coverage, but they want to be able to control it for their own benefit.

Exactly. Here’s 3 stories in People since Monday this week, all of which share an author, and all of which obviously came directly from the Sussexes:

https://people.com/meghan-markle-prince-harry-celebrate-princess-lilibet-3rd-birthday-party-montecito-home-8655331

https://people.com/prince-harry-declined-invitation-duke-of-westminster-wedding-understanding-between-two-friends-8657860

https://people.com/meghan-markle-prince-harry-not-invited-trooping-the-colour-2024-king-charles-birthday-parade-8657883

(I wonder for how long they are going to drag out the stories suggesting they’ve been snubbed at official Royal family events ? Will we still be seeing “Trooping the Colour: Meghan and Harry not invited for the 15th year in a row” in 2037?)

Maybe the palace think there is little point in inviting them anyway as the accommodation offered to them is not good enough (see Harry Invictus visit), there isn’t enough security and they can only stay for an hour or so (see last time they came to the trooping the colour for the Queen’s platinum jubilee)

They are forever trying to recover from the very worst 'own goal', Netflix and Spare etc. Their extensive and expensive PR efforts are continuing to kick that ball back into their own net, it's getting them nowhere, except continued ridicule.

I think they really believed they would be elevated to another level of celebrity beyond the RF, while at the same time hoping to destroy the reputation of the RF and the UK, especially William and Catherine. In fact, they have managed to do the complete opposite, and not only in the UK, the RF are even more popular with the public while Harry & Meghan are left relying on some crazies for public support and desperate PR spin by paid spin doctors.

They are not welcome anymore in the UK by the majority of the British people, they shouldn't be invited to any RF public events.

I certainly do not think they understand the meaning of slow and steady wins the race or less is more when it comes to PR. All of the pieces @Serenster posted include the royal family.

Don't forget the annual pieces about invitations to Balmoral and Sandringham. They run and run and sell papers:

Are they going to be invited?
They have been invited
They haven't been invited
They are staying away

4 articles to get clicks, twice a year. It's all about money for the press and I think Harry would be happier if he realised it and stopped reacting to everything.

Yes I agree. They just keep getting it so so wrong. If they are the source of the ' not invited to the Trooping' story then what do they think it says? Do they think 'Look! See! We ARE the victims here!!!' . Feel sorry for us!!!!

All it confirms for me is that the RF think they are so completely untrustworthy that they are just being frozen out. And why should the RF NOT freeze them out? They have betrayed their family in so many ways, and just display their grasping mercenary natures and thin-skinned petulance at every turn.

Im waiting for the day when People magazine stops publishing 4 articles in a row using info from Sussex camp “sources”. Won’t happen, though.

For the record, I don’t think the Duke of Westchester wanted or expected Harry to attend his wedding. Courtesy invite.

Why would they be invited to Trooping the Colour, when they're not working royals? (Except of course they did want to keep the good bits, like H dressing up in uniform and both of them appearing on the balcony, to remind everyone of their royal status.)

I don't mind seeing the wider Royal Family on the balcony at Trooping The Colour (only working Royals, plus perhaps Wales DC in the parade)

But pointless inviting those who are not resident in the country.

(Does leave the sleazy Andrew issue, though - no-one wants to see him. Perhaps he could keep getting diplomatic covid)

Those links are perfect examples @Serenster thank you.
Meghan gave the game away in an interview with Sky News in 2020 when she went on to explain how click baits create an imprint and there’s an “Economy for attention” which “can be monetised”.
It is exactly how they operate.

I'm waiting for the day when People magazine stops publishing 4 articles in a row using info from Sussex camp “sources”. Won’t happen, though

It seems to be their current replacement for Scobie, who's being curiously quiet, but I wouldn't want to assume the rag will keep the job; after all they seem to replace everyone sooner or later

Had to smile about H&M's absence from the Duke of Westminster's wedding, but then when you're one of the richest man in Britain and also come across as being pretty decent, I guess the choice of which one to throw your lot in with was never going to be hard

Does leave the sleazy Andrew issue, though - no-one wants to see him. Perhaps he could keep getting diplomatic covid

Well, he's not a working royal, so he doesn't get to do balcony appearances. The only things he does are primarily family occasions, such as church on Christmas Day at Sandringham.

Well said. I don’t have the energy to keep up with the threads and post on them. Having finally caught up with this one, I totally agree. I cannot abide the current fashion of silencing others and writing off difference of opinion as hate.

I’ve said before and will say again. Criticism is not hate.