Porkies, Perfidies & Pomposity - Harry and Meghan thread 2

[YaMuvva]

I do not take credit for the title

First thread here

Shall we continue the discussion? I will not be engaging with the posters spouting damaging and unfounded gossip

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/the_royal_family/5084429-why-do-harry-and-meghan-tell-porkies-that-are-so-easy-to-prove-wrong?page=1

It's cool here! Where do you live that's got a sunbathing climate?

In the meantime - what is it about Harry that makes him worship a woman who is so very at odds with the world he grew up in?

I’ve held the opinion for a while that he needs someone to worship and obsess over. Perhaps to transfer the worshipping and obsession he has with his mother. Cressida and Chelsey seem the type of women who wouldn’t stand for being worshipper, but Meghan probably lapped it up and the lack of Royal knowledge of her being American meant she didn’t realise he isn’t a Prince in a fairytale but a semi-restricted member of the upper classes, she saw it as being worshipped by someone prestigious.

If Harry wasn’t a prince she wouldn’t have looked twice at him

Yorkshire of all places! It’s a respectable 17C but I am northern afterall and get my legs out when it hits around 12C 🤣

Really? I'm in Yorkshire.

I’m in North Yorkshire. DH did travel West today towards Leeds and said it was much colder though!

I'm in Yorkshire too! It's also 17°c, although there's a breeze. You're tough!

My garden is good for blocking out wind, and I am a total fanny who finds 22C far too hot so it’s ideal for me 🤣🤣

He was so clearly besotted (not saying he isn't now, but we haven't really had the chance to see it the last year or so) and it was almost teenage-like the way he came across. Obviously his ex partners were a lot more private and never had the scrutiny of an engagement/wedding, so we don't know if he was the same with them, but in hindsight it does come across very strange. I just worry that he's quite a damaged man and she's learnt how to manipulate that. All the Diana cosplaying is unsettling.

I agree with you, @bridgerbelle , it's not healthy.

I’m in York and it’s lovely here 😎

I do believe that a term was coined when this all kicked off.

Foofstruck.

I cannot think of a better way to describe it.

Oop north.

It is radiant.

There’s another bit in “Spare” that had me raising my eyebrows:

The Court Circular was an ancient document, but it had lately morphed into a circular firing squad. It didn’t create the feelings of competitiveness that ran in my family, but it amplified them, weaponized them. Though none of us ever spoke about the Court Circular directly, or mentioned it by name, that only created more tension under the surface, which built invisibly as the last day of the calendar year approached. Certain family members had become obsessed, feverishly striving to have the highest number of official engagements recorded in the Circular each year, no matter what, and they’d succeeded largely by including things that weren’t, strictly speaking, engagements, recording public interactions that were mere blips, the kinds of things Willy and I wouldn’t dream of including. Which was essentially why the Court Circular was a joke. It was all self-reported, all subjective. Nine private visits with veterans, helping with their mental health? Zero points. Flying via helicopter to cut a ribbon at a horse farm? Winner!

Was that last bit a sly dig at Princess Anne? Versus the oh-so-worthy, unrecorded events attended by Harry. Who’s to say that other Royals didn’t also make unrecorded worthy visits? Would Harry know about those?

So, apparently individual Royals decided what would go into the Court Circular. But, in the very next paragraph, it seems that it was all controlled by what the late Queen/Prince Charles decided to fund:

But the main reason the Court Circular was a joke, a scam, was that none of us was deciding in a vacuum how much work to do. Granny or Pa decided, by way of how much support (money) they allocated to our work. Money determined all. In the case of Willy and me, Pa was the sole decider. It was he alone who controlled our funds; we could only do what we could do with whatever resources and budget we got from him. To be publicly flogged for how much Pa permitted us to do — that felt grossly unfair. Rigged.

I don’t know how entries in the Court Circular are decided; it seems Harry didn’t know either.

So nasty and snarky. He's just finding things to get angry and bitter about.

He really is a despicable little oaf.

My memory is shocking but I read a piece the other day where Meghan was going to do an interview and Harry asked her not to mention that they were seeing each other, but she went ahead and said how in love they were ( something along those lines anyway)

I'm a bit late answering this, but, yes, the Oprah interview was the end of my line of wishing well, finding reasons to defend etc. They were a malign trio on the screen.

I am so glad we didn't watch that wedding and went off on a bike ride instead!

I did what I always do for Royal weddings and funerals. I save up all my ironing and iron my little heart out while drinking pink champagne.

Quite enjoy it really. Although HM the Queen's lying in state tested my stamina. First time I ever had an empty ironing basket though.

-edited to add that I am not drinking champagne to celebrate a royal death- but as a tribute (before anyone's sensitivities goes haywire).

One fib that drove the nail home for me was when she said she went to HR and wasn't allowed access to help for her mental health , I'm sure Harry had seen a counsellor by then, it made an absolute mockery of him being part of the Heads Together thing.

The whole 'the Dof Sussex has gone into labour ... no oops, she had the baby 2 (was it 2 days?) days ago' was a low point for me