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Wickedlywearynamechanged · 31/05/2024 20:32

MummyJ12 · 30/05/2024 17:25

On May 23, Netflix released its most watched list of the last half of 2023. This included the release of Prince Harry’s ‘Heart of Invictus’, which didn’t draw the audience numbers hoped. It only had 300,000 views, a very small number when compared to the 71.6 million achieved by the #1 show, ‘One Piece.’

Their best performing series ‘Harry & Meghan’ managed to garner 1.9 million views and ‘Live to Lead’ remains their greatest failure with just 100,000 views in the last half 2023. The first half wasn’t much better.

With numbers like this, Harry & Meghan need another massive hit for Netflix, otherwise I don’t see much of a future with the streaming giant. By any stretch of the imagination, given their profiles, these numbers must be hugely disappointing to the bosses at Netflix. And I don’t think a documentary on polo nor Meghan’s cooking show is going to get them the numbers Netflix expects from them to justify the big money. Especially given the lack of followers on Instagram that American Riviera Orchard has. Kourtney Kardashian’s son, Mason had more followers after an hour of him launching his instagram account apparently.
Public interest is not the same as popularity.

Where did you get these figures from?

Your source?

TIA

MummyJ12 · 31/05/2024 20:38

Netflix report @Wickedlywearynamechanged

MummyJ12 · 31/05/2024 20:38

I’m sure you’re more than capable of finding it for yourself.

Wickedlywearynamechanged · 31/05/2024 20:51

Wow, you are dedicated!

Thats a lot of data sifting (I meant to add)

AliceOlive · 31/05/2024 20:55

Wickedlywearynamechanged · 31/05/2024 20:51

Wow, you are dedicated!

Thats a lot of data sifting (I meant to add)

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Not really. Easy to filter.

MummyJ12 · 31/05/2024 20:57

AliceOlive · 31/05/2024 20:55

Not really. Easy to filter.

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This!

MummyJ12 · 31/05/2024 20:58

Wickedlywearynamechanged · 31/05/2024 20:51

Wow, you are dedicated!

Thats a lot of data sifting (I meant to add)

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You’re welcome.

Wickedlywearynamechanged · 31/05/2024 21:53

Over all ‘Harry and Meghan’ is the second highest most watched Netflix documentary ever according to wiki.

As of Jan 2023

And is credited with doubling the viewership of The Crown for that season.

Edited to ad ‘Ever’ and ‘as of Jan 2023’

MummyJ12 · 31/05/2024 22:09

Anyone can edit wiki. It’s not a reliable source for anything!
But even if it is in fact true, it can’t stand alone in the only successful product of theirs for Netflix.
A chef is only as good as their last meal, so to speak.
H&M need to continue to produce successful shows for Netflix and the point of my post is that, so far, that is not happening.

IcedPurple · 31/05/2024 22:36

Wickedlywearynamechanged · 31/05/2024 21:53

Over all ‘Harry and Meghan’ is the second highest most watched Netflix documentary ever according to wiki.

As of Jan 2023

And is credited with doubling the viewership of The Crown for that season.

Edited to ad ‘Ever’ and ‘as of Jan 2023’

Edited

Over all ‘Harry and Meghan’ is the second highest most watched Netflix documentary ever according to wiki.

I think calling it a 'documentary' is being generous. Whinomentary would be more like it. But it did get high viewing figures, because there is a lot of interest in royal gossip. Now that they have run out of that, it's not obvious what else they have left to sell.

Other than jam.

And is credited with doubling the viewership of The Crown for that season.

"Credited" by whom, exactly? And how did they reach this conclusion? It seems a strange claim to make.

AliceOlive · 31/05/2024 22:44

I’m not really getting hits that include them when I try and search for “most watched documentary on Netflix”

It is not even listed on this recent article. (Which I do see is “best” rather than most watched.)

https://ew.com/movies/best-documentaries-on-netflix/

The 30 best documentaries on Netflix right now

The best documentaries on Netflix include provocative history lessons like '13th' and fascinating celebrity profiles like 'What Happened, Miss Simone?' and more.

https://ew.com/movies/best-documentaries-on-netflix/

IcedPurple · 31/05/2024 22:47

AliceOlive · 31/05/2024 22:44

I’m not really getting hits that include them when I try and search for “most watched documentary on Netflix”

It is not even listed on this recent article. (Which I do see is “best” rather than most watched.)

https://ew.com/movies/best-documentaries-on-netflix/

It wouldn't surprise me if it's among the highest viewed 'documentaries', tut that's no great achievement. Firstly because Netflix is not known for the quality of its documentaries, most of which are pretty poor. Secondly, as I said above, it barely qualifies as a 'documentary'. More a vanity puff piece. And it's not likely to be something they can follow up. Kind of like 'Spare'. Their USP is royal dirt, and stock is running low.

Hence the jam.

MummyJ12 · 31/05/2024 22:52

Exactly @AliceOlive, when you think of the Taylor Swift documentary and the swifties. That has got to be up there….?!

I suppose, giving credit, the H&M documentary was well watched and drew a large amount of viewing hours. However, how many documentaries can they put out that gives people the glimpse into the Royal Family that viewers want to watch? They can’t be a one trick pony…..

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DingDingaling · 31/05/2024 23:55

“The Duke and Duchess of Sussex have “a bunch” of new projects in development at Netflix, a senior executive at the entertainment company has said.”

“Under the deal, the couple have released a six-part series titled Harry & Meghan about their relationship, marriage, and decision to leave the UK and move to Los Angeles. The show was released in two parts in December 2022 and subsequently became Netflix’s most successful documentary launch ever.”

https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/royal-family/news/harry-meghan-latest-news-netflix-b2488839.html

“Along with Netflix, one of the couple's biggest income streams has been from their publishing deal. As part of this, Harry released his debut memoir Spare. It has been reported they have signed a four-book deal worth £16million.”

https://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/us-celebrity-news/meghan-harry-roll-in-money-31760834

Prince Harry and Meghan Markle speak at mental health conference in New York

Harry and Meghan are on a panel to discuss how internet and social media are affecting young people’s mental health

https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/royal-family/meghan-markle-prince-harry-new-york-mental-health-b2427515.html

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FloofPaws · 01/06/2024 00:03

🥱 bored with their rebranding, new ventures, projects ... start and finish something ... and try to make it good, and not made up 'truths' ... they won't... they can't
That is all

AnnieSF · 01/06/2024 00:22

Whinomentary 😂😂😂

Wickedlywearynamechanged · 01/06/2024 01:18

MummyJ12 · 31/05/2024 22:09

Anyone can edit wiki. It’s not a reliable source for anything!
But even if it is in fact true, it can’t stand alone in the only successful product of theirs for Netflix.
A chef is only as good as their last meal, so to speak.
H&M need to continue to produce successful shows for Netflix and the point of my post is that, so far, that is not happening.

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Yes, sources can be fallible. I really don’t need to be told a source may not be reliable.

That is why I always cite a source when I use one.

I did write that it was the second most watched Netflix documentary until Jan 2023 according to wiki.

I would never pull something off, say Twitter, and bring it here and not acknowledge where it came from.

JADS · 01/06/2024 07:16

As I understand it, Netflix only started to publish their figures from January 2023. Meghan and Harry was released in December 2022 so we will never get the true figures.

I remember it sitting in the Top 10 for a few weeks as was the Beckham puff piece which got 43 million views in the July - December 2023. I would imagine people watch that kind of thing once and then never again. Netflix got much better value from the Suits summer reruns.

DelectableMe · 01/06/2024 07:16

That the Netflix series was popular is not a positive reflection on the Sussexes. It wasn't some meaningful, artistic or philanthropic exercise.
People watched it because they are a controversial couple who have made money by invading family privacy and dishing unsubstantiated dirt.
Nothing to be proud of.

Vespanest · 01/06/2024 08:10

To see how Harry and Meghan stand up in contents and popularity there needs to be a stand out that doesn’t contain Charles, Camilla, William and Catherine as you cannot separate motive for watching/reading. Gossiping sells but eventually dries up, as for Netflix you’d expect the person on the other end of a contract to big up their clients. Im sure prior to the cutting ties Spotify would have bigged them up. I’m assuming big initial figures for ARO cooking show but again people’s motivation will be hard to judge. Comparing the Netflix series and the crown sort of proves it’s own point that it’s royal gossiping the is the unique selling point.

Serenster · 01/06/2024 08:15

Comparing the Netflix series and the crown sort of proves it’s own point that it’s royal gossiping the is the unique selling point.

Quite. Meghan and Harry’s documentary drove interest in the projects about the Royal family, not interest in their own standalone projects, which rated very poorly. Illuminating.

MummyJ12 · 01/06/2024 08:51

Wickedlywearynamechanged · 01/06/2024 01:18

Yes, sources can be fallible. I really don’t need to be told a source may not be reliable.

That is why I always cite a source when I use one.

I did write that it was the second most watched Netflix documentary until Jan 2023 according to wiki.

I would never pull something off, say Twitter, and bring it here and not acknowledge where it came from.

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You are yet to respond to @IcedPurple on your claim regarding viewing figures of The Crown though….?

"Credited" by whom, exactly? And how did they reach this conclusion? It seems a strange claim to make.

Most of us cite sources here. If we forget to we will happily enlighten and share. You’re not on your own there, although you don’t seem to have any solid evidence of viewing figures to support your post upthread. So I was simply pointing out that wiki can’t be relied upon.
When you think of documentaries like the Beyoncé and Taylor Swift ones, as well as 13, Tiger King and the octopus documentary. I very much doubt that the Harry and Meghan documentary is even in the top 10 never mind the second most watched.

MrsLeonFarrell · 01/06/2024 09:31

I didn't watch it but I did watch some of the Beckham documentary. After 2 episodes I was done, so kudos to anyone who can stick with 6 episodes about any one couple.