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The royal family

Harry’s litigation

455 replies

smilesy · 21/05/2024 14:15

Harry has been mostly denied permission to increase the scope of his case against NGN. The judge has, quite rightly, allowed him to include new allegations of phone tapping and other accusations against private investigators and journalists. What he has not allowed is Harry to extend the timeline to include allegations around Diana or Meghan when she was his girlfriend. The judge also made disparaging remarks about Harry’s lawyers adding more and more detail, and going for “trophy targets”

Is Harry losing sight of what legal action should be for and becoming vexatious?

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sweetnessandlighter · 28/06/2024 08:50

MrsLeonFarrell · 27/06/2024 21:44

I don't see any evidence Megan is unsupportive. But I don't think the most supportive wife in the world would help Harry. He needs effective therapy.

I'd argue that he needs rather less therapy. Sitting gazing at his navel and thinking about how jolly hard done by he is hasn't helped him. The best thing for him would be a full time, demanding, physical job. He thrived in the army and something similar would help him enormously IMO.

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LeilaLettuce · 28/06/2024 08:57

sweetnessandlighter · 28/06/2024 08:50

I'd argue that he needs rather less therapy. Sitting gazing at his navel and thinking about how jolly hard done by he is hasn't helped him. The best thing for him would be a full time, demanding, physical job. He thrived in the army and something similar would help him enormously IMO.

I agree. I know someone like this in real life. Loads of therapy has just made them much worse. Obsessed with themselves and a ‘poor me’ complex. Too much time on their hands to sit and wallow. They are selfish and nasty where this wasn’t the case before therapy.

Crucible · 28/06/2024 09:14

I do wonder, after all this time, all this litigation and all the trips abroad to places like Nigeria, if ultimately RAVEC do have to reconsider his security, that they might well downgrade him and his family, or do something along the lines of increasing the notice period required.

I wouldn't blame them, given how long it's been and how poor the public purse is now. This could all backfire spectacularly for him. He has shown himself to be highly vexatious, I would surmise that makes it very difficult for RAVEC so longer planning periods for his security would probably be necessary now.

MrsLeonFarrell · 28/06/2024 09:15

sweetnessandlighter · 28/06/2024 08:50

I'd argue that he needs rather less therapy. Sitting gazing at his navel and thinking about how jolly hard done by he is hasn't helped him. The best thing for him would be a full time, demanding, physical job. He thrived in the army and something similar would help him enormously IMO.

I agree that therapy hasn't helped him which is why I said effective therapy. He needs the tools to move on, at the moment he is stuck.

MrsLeonFarrell · 28/06/2024 09:19

Regardless of the legitimacy of his and others claims, I don't think Harry's barrister has his best interests at heart. According to some press reports David Sherborne approached Harry and the suspicion occurs that he saw him as a source of publicity and income, rather than someone who could prove an effective case at this point in time.

RosieMilkJug · 28/06/2024 09:20

There’s only so much money in Harry’s bank account and the amount he has spent on legal fees is staggering.

upinaballoon · 28/06/2024 09:42

sweetnessandlighter · 28/06/2024 08:50

I'd argue that he needs rather less therapy. Sitting gazing at his navel and thinking about how jolly hard done by he is hasn't helped him. The best thing for him would be a full time, demanding, physical job. He thrived in the army and something similar would help him enormously IMO.

Yes. When you need to work in order to live, that everyday work can be a godsend when your head is in trouble. I understand the other remark about 'effective' therapy. The sooner Harry gets himself a job on an air-sea rescue team in California, or some alternative, really useful and physically busy, the better for him. Loads of physical work and a small amount of good therapy - that's the prescription.

Sloejelly · 28/06/2024 09:46

upinaballoon · 28/06/2024 09:42

Yes. When you need to work in order to live, that everyday work can be a godsend when your head is in trouble. I understand the other remark about 'effective' therapy. The sooner Harry gets himself a job on an air-sea rescue team in California, or some alternative, really useful and physically busy, the better for him. Loads of physical work and a small amount of good therapy - that's the prescription.

Given his admitted drug use, even if Harry wanted to fly a rescue helicopter, I doubt he’d be allowed.

But it doesn’t need to be a physical job, just a purpose outside of himself.

LeilaLettuce · 28/06/2024 09:49

Surely he needs a visa to work in the US?

LeilaLettuce · 28/06/2024 09:50

Plus remember he needs to tout his security team with him everywhere.

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 28/06/2024 09:50

But it doesn’t need to be a physical job, just a purpose outside of himself

This IS his purpose. He's a valiant crusader for truth against the evil media. That it looks to many of us like a vanity project for a very rich man with nothing better to do doesn't matter to him.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 28/06/2024 09:57

When you need to work in order to live, that everyday work can be a godsend when your head is in trouble

A very insightful comment, @upinaballoon
I obviously don't know what Harry does all day, but it's clearly nothing with any grit or we'd have heard about it, and dwelling on perceived wrongs while pretending to be some sort of crusader is hardly helpful

LeilaLettuce · 28/06/2024 10:01

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 28/06/2024 09:50

But it doesn’t need to be a physical job, just a purpose outside of himself

This IS his purpose. He's a valiant crusader for truth against the evil media. That it looks to many of us like a vanity project for a very rich man with nothing better to do doesn't matter to him.

Which is costing the tax payer a fortune

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 28/06/2024 10:07

LeilaLettuce · 28/06/2024 10:01

Which is costing the tax payer a fortune

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He's a valiant crusader for truth against the evil media. That it looks to many of us like a vanity project for a very rich man with nothing better to do and that the taxpayer is paying for doesn't matter to him.

Original post amended slightly

Sloejelly · 28/06/2024 10:19

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 28/06/2024 09:50

But it doesn’t need to be a physical job, just a purpose outside of himself

This IS his purpose. He's a valiant crusader for truth against the evil media. That it looks to many of us like a vanity project for a very rich man with nothing better to do doesn't matter to him.

But it is not one outside of himself. It is one that centres himself as the victim.

CathyorClaire · 28/06/2024 11:15

This article from Sky News has a few more details on the numbers. 50 grand already for searching through his emails. Ouch

I wonder if Harold's missing those men in grey suits whose job is to make nasty things go away yet?

Anyway. Wouldn't the ghostwriter and any other recipients have all the emails as well? Can he/they be called on to disclose them?

Thedom · 28/06/2024 11:53

You would have to wonder why/if they were deleted, considering Harry (or maybe his ghostwriter) said there was enough content to write a 2nd book. Its doubtful that content went into the trash without a thought.

Amusing they mention as one of the reasons for deleting, being there are things 'that could be damaging to the RF'. Doubt many will buy that as an excuse.

MrsLeonFarrell · 28/06/2024 12:01

Thedom · 28/06/2024 11:53

You would have to wonder why/if they were deleted, considering Harry (or maybe his ghostwriter) said there was enough content to write a 2nd book. Its doubtful that content went into the trash without a thought.

Amusing they mention as one of the reasons for deleting, being there are things 'that could be damaging to the RF'. Doubt many will buy that as an excuse.

I suspect it's more like

There are many things that Harry thinks would be damaging for the RF.

BemusedAmerican · 28/06/2024 12:11

But still no info on how they found those hardrives.

Return of Spare revelation - William always got extra sugar in his tea.

Vespanest · 28/06/2024 12:31

Even when Harry wins, I’m not sure how this helps him, he won 140000 off the mirror group and although he gets costs, (never a guarantee) the fine money will barely touch the side of his expenses that can not be included in his legal cost. He doesn’t create a lasting legacy, most people would probably have to check which tabloid each case is which. More importantly it’s not creating Harry a salary, whether it be suing, collecting awards, promoting Invictus, his income is Spare and Netflix. Happy solicitors and barristers though.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 28/06/2024 12:36

Vespanest · 28/06/2024 12:31

Even when Harry wins, I’m not sure how this helps him, he won 140000 off the mirror group and although he gets costs, (never a guarantee) the fine money will barely touch the side of his expenses that can not be included in his legal cost. He doesn’t create a lasting legacy, most people would probably have to check which tabloid each case is which. More importantly it’s not creating Harry a salary, whether it be suing, collecting awards, promoting Invictus, his income is Spare and Netflix. Happy solicitors and barristers though.

Yet another insightful post, thpough I'm not sure if Harry's already paid some of the legal costs or even if he intends to?

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 28/06/2024 12:42

Puzzledandpissedoff · 28/06/2024 12:36

Yet another insightful post, thpough I'm not sure if Harry's already paid some of the legal costs or even if he intends to?

Given the level of delusion under which he seems to operate, Harry probably thinks he can crying to pa to bail him out.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 28/06/2024 12:54

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 28/06/2024 12:42

Given the level of delusion under which he seems to operate, Harry probably thinks he can crying to pa to bail him out.

I don't doubt it, MrsD, and for all we know he may be right Confused

TERFCat · 28/06/2024 13:11

I'm starting to feel a bit sorry for Harry here. He's clearly in way over his head and dealing with people far cleverer than himself. He's like a puppy at the Grand National.