Harry’s litigation

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Harry has been mostly denied permission to increase the scope of his case against NGN. The judge has, quite rightly, allowed him to include new allegations of phone tapping and other accusations against private investigators and journalists. What he has not allowed is Harry to extend the timeline to include allegations around Diana or Meghan when she was his girlfriend. The judge also made disparaging remarks about Harry’s lawyers adding more and more detail, and going for “trophy targets”

Is Harry losing sight of what legal action should be for and becoming vexatious?

Not me I’m afraid. I can’t feel sorry for him at all.

He is so buoyed up by bile he can’t see he is swimming in shite.

His court cases, win or lose, will now only be remember for the headlines 'Harry deliberately destroyed potential evidence' and the judges slamming of how his lawyers are handling the case. . Same as Meghan, her court case forgotten, but her lying to the court will never be forgotten.

Both very spectacular own goals.

Well for a start I reckon he's being exploited big time by his legal team, who clearly saw a lovely high profile case on behalf of a popular figure against the hated meeja.

And let's face it, 'people far cleverer than himself' isn't a huge bar to leap over. I wonder if it's beginning to dawn on him just how protected he was when he was in the RF.

I wonder how they know that there is missing evidence?

Very well put, TheDom

I take TERFCat's point about almost feeling sorry for Harry, but it's his own hubris which has got him into this mess so my sympathy's limited - and certainly not because of his attacks on the monarchy since I'm not a supporter anyway

..... his income is Spare and Netflix.

I doubt Spare will bring him in a continuing, long term income. Most people who wanted to buy it, will have bought it in the first few weeks. Anyone who wants to read it now can get it from a charity shop and see their money go to a worthier cause.

my sympathy's limited - and certainly not because of his attacks on the monarchy since I'm not a supporter anyway

His attacks on the monarchy as an institution will have about as much impact as a gnat buzzing around, whatever Scoble might claim. It's his/their behaviour towards his closest family members which causes me to feel no sympathy.

That and the fact that he is where he is now entirely due to his own choices.

Doesn't he also have a massive legal bill for the Judicial Review? I know it's gone to appeal but it will likely fail again, which will only increase his bill. And now this. Hundreds of grand, and counting.

David Sherborne really saw him coming, didn't he?

Yes. It feels like all his cases are somehow merging in to one massive legal bill, with no satisfactory outcome

I'm not even sure what a 'satisfactory outcome' would be for Harry.

He is using the judicial system as a venue to indulge his perceived grievances and resentments. And it's going to cost him. And the British taxpayer.

I agree. I think that even if he won the case and was awarded all costs, a personal apology and all the news editors and journalists were prostrate on the floor in hair shirts, he still wouldn’t be satisfied

Those barristers must see him coming. He's an ideal client for them: plenty of time on his hands, bitter, not very bright, arrogant and a multimillionaire.

I think Harry feels that his mother never had justice over how the press treated her, and that's what fuels him.

Whatever you think of Diana, nobody can deny that the press did treat her badly, especially when she was at her most vulnerable. That must hurt Harry, and indeed anyone who loved Diana.

He has to deal with that, though. He can't turn back the clock. Nor can he take on some mythical "press" because he loves the press. He's married a woman who loves the press. They constantly strain to be photographed, to be at events, it's their entire raison d'etre. It's hypocrisy.

I doubt Spare will bring him in a continuing, long term income. Most people who wanted to buy it, will have bought it in the first few weeks. Anyone who wants to read it now can get it from a charity shop and see their money go to a worthier cause.

The paperback version due this month still hasn't been released and the hardback is reported to be one of the most dumped books in holiday hotels and charity shops.

I got a copy from the library last year but had to wait about six months to get to the top of the list. The library now has over half the 300 (!) odd copies available immediately.

Can't even see a Spare 2 hitting shelves anytime soon. The publishers are said to have taken a hit on the advance they paid and their profits last year dipped slightly on the year before despite an increase in overall sales.

I suspect someone somewhere overestimated something and got their mitts burned...

Diana’s relationship with the press was more complicated than that though. She quite often courted them and tipped them off as to what she was doing. She wasn’t entirely a victim

I think H' relationship with the Press is not all that different to that with his family.

There are parallels in how much he needs them, yet simultaneously resents them and wages war against even his own best interests.

He appears to only see life through the lens of what he wants and how he expects to be treated. Any deviation from that is unacceptable to him and he seems incapable of reflecting about the impact of his actions.

As I have said before, he keeps throwing grenades at short range whilst expecting vindication and sympathy about being wounded by his own shrapnel.

I think he’s emotionally still 12 and that’s the problem.

I think Harry feels that his mother never had justice over how the press treated her, and that's what fuels him

Though we'll never know I believe you could be right, @TERFCat ; I've sometimes wondered if he's forever stuck in the role of "the little boy who couldn't save his mum"

As posters always say though, there were two brothers who suffered that awful loss, and William - who Diana said, however unwisely, was her "confidant" - doesn't carry on like this

He's almost 40, a father of two. He's got plenty of time, money and access to the best therapists and healing. He needs to choose to move forward from this.

As PP I’m still none the wiser regarding the hard drives, how their existence was known and who and how they were found.

I'm slightly baffled by the whole thing too.

I’m wondering how WhatsApp messages can be accessed for year an and years ago too. Surely they aren’t kept in some server for all eternity?

I’ve had a look around and apart from the telegraph article, most don’t mention the hard drives specifically. I found this mention of “not having access to everything they were promised” (in an article in In Style of all places) which maybe means that NGN were made aware of the existence of the hard drives 🤷‍♀️

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I'm just curious as to the relevance of the documents?

Isn't this case about event long preceding the writing of Harry's book?