Harry’s litigation

[smilesy]

Harry has been mostly denied permission to increase the scope of his case against NGN. The judge has, quite rightly, allowed him to include new allegations of phone tapping and other accusations against private investigators and journalists. What he has not allowed is Harry to extend the timeline to include allegations around Diana or Meghan when she was his girlfriend. The judge also made disparaging remarks about Harry’s lawyers adding more and more detail, and going for “trophy targets”

Is Harry losing sight of what legal action should be for and becoming vexatious?

Well they'd hair-flicked to Canada for Christmas 2019 and issued the official flounce in January 2020 so it would be most interesting to see the contents of that info dump. Likewise the emails involving the keeper of the privy purse.

My prediction is that a fortuitous something will happen to prevent that
though👽

I think the emails in question will be around Williams settlement and if I remember rightly Harry claimed he was warned off by the royal family about legal action, which is weird as William must have threatened legal action to get a settlement. I could imagine Harry having to be careful not to disclose anything that would perjure himself in previous cases. I am surprised that his previous tabloid case didn’t demand the same access

And, just to remind readers (not you, Vespanest) that what NGN are looking for is evidence that Harry knew about the offences he claims were committed against him six years earlier than the date at which he launched his prosecution (in which case his claim fails).

I loved the bit where the judge pointed out that KP could easily fill the gaps in Harry's missing paper/email trail, and instructed Harry's lawyer to write to them asking for assistance. I'm sure Bee, Wasp and Fly will be dilligently helpful.

I'm sure Bee, Wasp and Fly will be dilligently helpful.

A Bug's Life meets Erin Brockovich

I take it that Bee Wasp and Fly are PH's nicknames for some of the grey men in suits at the palace whom he hated so much (and now probably regrets pissing off?)

@Crucible . Yes, it's what he calls palace advisors in Spare.

Yes, exactly.

Thanks both. I hate spiteful nicknames.

The irony is he didn’t realise that these insects had an essential place in the Harry ecosystem and were helping him. No grey men - no “Fun Harry” and no one to make his messes disappear.

I'll be honest: at the start of this thing with The Scum, I thought it was just the rag trying to make trouble, but with the judge's comments about not producing the communications it appears not

One thing at least seems clear: had they shown Harry in a good light - and by extension the staff in a bad one - the chances of them "disappearing" is probably nil

Typo

I have to say that in the course of his litigations, Harry has had a most cavalier attitude towards actual evidence. It’s always seems like he is saying that whatever he states must be true, without always being able to back it up (sounds familiar). It seems to be a mirror of how his life is. Say whatever whether objectively true or not

If you are right and it transpires that William did indeed donate his settlement to charity ( Invictus?) I wonder what the SS will have to say about that ?

They’ll probably claim the charity accepted an unlawful donation or something like they did previously with the spoof website donations to the Trussel Trust 🙄

The William donation would be guilt or hush money and proof he was a bully. In fairness to Archewell they are small fry in the business that is foundations, it’s more that it’s getting more attention than others. The fact a place even exists that allows 95% to be used for expenses tells you all you need to know. Many (not claiming Archewell) are legal money laundering, passed between foundations after taking their expenses to do so.

The William donation would be guilt or hush money and proof he was a bully

Do you mean that’s how the squad would
frame it?

Yeah the Sussex squad, I did a terrible job of making that clear

The funny thing about all of this, that Harry (and Meghan) never seem to consider in their litigation is how much comes out that paints them in a bad light.

Whilst the Sun are technically only looking for evidence of one thing, there's a good chance that lots of other dirt will come to light from them having access to all this correspondence. A bit like when they'd fervently denied having anything to do with Finding Freedom and then were caught red handed thanks to another court case.

Even if Harry wins the case, the odds are that he'll end up exposing and embarrassing himself far more in the process than anything the "evil media" have done to him.

Even if Harry wins the case, the odds are that he'll end up exposing and embarrassing himself far more in the process than anything the "evil media" have done to him.

He did that with Spare.

Agreed, he did. But with Spare at least those were the things he wanted people to know (even if he didn't realise how poorly it would reflect on him!). These documents are likely to contain lots of things he wouldn't want anyone to see. It's a total own goal

So true about objective truth, smilesy, but then Harry's told us in his own words what he thinks about that

And yes, @elessar, very probably further disclosures will hardly reflect well on either H or M - as I said, if there was a chance they might the records would probably never be "missing/unavailable"

I'm just surprised, because as mentioned I really thought this was the paper muckraking, so it'll be interesting to watch

Bumping this thread because Mr Justice Fancourt has issued a preliminary judgment and has criticised both NGM and the Duke for effectively using the court for personal grudge airing and point scoring

Sorry, the article is behind a pay wall. Can anyone archive it please?

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2024/oct/04/high-court-judge-criticises-legal-battle-between-prince-harry-and-the-sun

Guardian not behind a paywall - same story.

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“I have also previously indicated that this claim will not be adjourned and will be either tried in January 2025 or settled, since it was issued as far back as September 2019 and has been stood out of eligibility for two previous listed trial dates,” he said. “That remains the position.”

What does this last bit mean in plain English? “stood out”?

Is it that this has twice been deferred and they can’t do that again?

Yes I believe so. The judge says it will either be tried in January 2025 or settled out of court. So no more alternative dates