Harry’s litigation

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Harry has been mostly denied permission to increase the scope of his case against NGN. The judge has, quite rightly, allowed him to include new allegations of phone tapping and other accusations against private investigators and journalists. What he has not allowed is Harry to extend the timeline to include allegations around Diana or Meghan when she was his girlfriend. The judge also made disparaging remarks about Harry’s lawyers adding more and more detail, and going for “trophy targets”

Is Harry losing sight of what legal action should be for and becoming vexatious?

What I took from what I've read is that H is saying he has no way of accessing records from back then. But the judge has pointed out that the men in grey might be able to help, and has instructed his lawyer to write to the relevant men in grey.

H and his lawyer are not coming out of this well. H is looking devious and dim, his lawyer incompetent and shifty.

Oh right. I was taking it as the palace saying 'but we gave him all this info in 2020, what does he mean, he doesn't have it?' and presumably that's different info from the Harry/Moehringer emails he has allegedly deleted.

They did give him something in 2020 although it’s not clear what that relates to. Whatever it was though, his lawyers were not aware of it’s existence

There are the hard drives, which he took when he left and then lost. (But then found again a few hours before the court convened.)

Then.there are the Moerhinger communications, which H says he deleted. The judge has asked him to provide a written justification for hab8ng done this.

I think I've got this right - please, anyone, tell.me if I'm wrong!

In the meanwhile - those two hard disks. It is going to cost H a fortune to have his lawyers trawl thru years (decades?) of communications to make sure there is nothing that proves he knew about the offense earlier than allowed.

When did PW settle out of court? Are the 2020 documents something to do with this?

Harry's previous case against the Mirror group felt horribly thin. It felt like it should have been a slamdunk. The evidence of the other people involved was much stronger. Sadly, one of them was outside the statute of limitations. I think Harry's case against NGN might hit the same snag.

I believe there are 40 people involved in this action so hopefully Harry's part is only small.

Harry’s lawyers claimed William settled in 2020 but I’m not sure this was ever confirmed

What's to stop Harry's lawyers saying they have looked through the hard drives and found nothing of relevance, shouldn't they be given to someone impartial?

If the judge tells the palace to give them certain info, then it is in the interest of the palace to do so. They don't want to be accused of being unhelpful by either the court or Harry.

I'm still confused as to how these hard drives suddenly turned up Any explanations that I have missed?

I don’t think they have suddenly turned up as such. I think NGN are complaining that they haven’t been give proper access to them

Same lapse of memory that Meghan suffered from, would me my guess. Mystbbe something in the water in Montecito.

They are required to hand them over to the NGN lawyers.
Are you Harry?

Harry must be finding it very strange to have his word questioned , to be ordered to do something and find that not everyone will agree with him 100% as presumably happened pre Megxit .

That's what he struggles with, isn't it, @Mylovelygreendress . He's so focused on status and entitlement, he appears to consider nothing else.

I was thinking the same.

He would have had all of that but he chose to leave. He must have thought he was so crucial to the RF. The thing he left is what he now craves.

That's so true. He just believed that what his title conferred was about some special personal quality. What are the Sussexes now? A couple who merchandise their titles and connections, who show no dignity, respect or decency. Who will act as quasi royals doing tours as if they represent something more significant than their own money grabbing.

It is massively disappointing and sad to watch. It could have been so different

In an alternate universe they could step down as working royals, spend a year or two thinking about where they want to use their influence, whilst doing some public speaking to keep in the public eye and make some money. Maybe write a book but a positive book about being royal and overcoming loss. They would pop up like the minor royals at family occasions. Do occasional interviews to promote charities and tell the odd sweet anecdote about their relatives.

But in that universe Harry matured beyond 'child whose mother died' and sadly we don't live in that universe.

I don't think Harry wants to get past "the child who lost his mother" because he's discovered it gives him currency and a perpetual sense of victimhood. He referred to it again at "Scotty's Little Soldiers", and it's becoming All About Me, rather than the issue or the charity. Same with Invictus. All about Meghan's outfits and jewellery. Going to Nigeria, having the National Anthem played, being feted, given gifts and titles is absolutely what he is about now.
That's the life he has chosen. Royal but without the checks and balances of being part of an institution.

I think it's uncanny how they are replicating the Windsors, especially with the hanging on to the royal trappings. Even down to the family not seeing them when they (Harry, anyway) is in the UK.

But also without the amazing benefits.

No free home with built in security. No competent staff to cater to your every need. No hanging out with Heads of State or backstage with Taylor Swift. No prestigious patronages. No military honours. No adulation for simply turning up and shaking hands.

From where I'm sitting, Harry's life now is inferior in just about every way to the one he found freedom from.

Wonder what’s happening with ARO ??

And no men in grey suits to make stuff go away.

I've thought so from the start, or at least wondered how he'd cope when all that went, and as it's turned out the answer is "badly"

As so many of us have said it's all a hell of a shame, but it was his choice and here we are

I think you're being a bit unfair in some of that. I remember when Prince William became patron of Child Bereavement UK he talked about one personal impact on him “Never being able to say the word “Mummy” again in your life sounds like a small thing. However, for many, including me, it’s now really just a word — hollow and evoking only memories”

It would be a lovely life if he would just appreciate what he has instead of concentrating on bitterness and vengeance. He is very rich, doesn’t work and lives in a gorgeous house in a lovely area.