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Harry’s litigation

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smilesy · 21/05/2024 14:15

Harry has been mostly denied permission to increase the scope of his case against NGN. The judge has, quite rightly, allowed him to include new allegations of phone tapping and other accusations against private investigators and journalists. What he has not allowed is Harry to extend the timeline to include allegations around Diana or Meghan when she was his girlfriend. The judge also made disparaging remarks about Harry’s lawyers adding more and more detail, and going for “trophy targets”

Is Harry losing sight of what legal action should be for and becoming vexatious?

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Vespanest · 28/06/2024 19:31

@IcedPurple I believe it centres on the statue of limitations, when Harry was aware of any wrong doings.

smilesy · 28/06/2024 19:42

It seems that the concerns are that evidence was destroyed after the case was underway as per the Telegraph article

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IcedPurple · 28/06/2024 19:48

smilesy · 28/06/2024 19:42

It seems that the concerns are that evidence was destroyed after the case was underway as per the Telegraph article

It sounds like this could potentially be quite serious?

Perverting the course of justice?

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 28/06/2024 19:55

IcedPurple · 28/06/2024 19:48

It sounds like this could potentially be quite serious?

Perverting the course of justice?

Tampering with evidence - altering, concealing, falsifying or destroying evidence with the intent to interfere with an investigation. The fact that they were destroyed after the case was underway doesn't look very good, altho perhaps he could plead there was no intent.

IcedPurple · 28/06/2024 20:00

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 28/06/2024 19:55

Tampering with evidence - altering, concealing, falsifying or destroying evidence with the intent to interfere with an investigation. The fact that they were destroyed after the case was underway doesn't look very good, altho perhaps he could plead there was no intent.

Surely Moehringer would have copies of these drafts and communications, for legal reasons of his own?

Let's say Harry were to sue the publisher, claiming that the book misrepresented him? Wouldn't Moehringer want to be able to point to communications between them and say 'You were the one who told me to write this!'?

Of course he is not a party to these proceedings and is an American citizen living in America, so I guess it would be hard for the British courts to get access to any copies he might hold. But I find it hard to believe that they don't exist. Publishers and authors are usually very careful about such things.

Vespanest · 28/06/2024 20:01

It’s worth remembering this is a civil case and Harry deleting is small fry compared to the accusations of NGN deleting millions of emails, this would have probably included emails regarding the royal family. Harry could damage his case but this is against The Sun

smilesy · 28/06/2024 20:02

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 28/06/2024 19:55

Tampering with evidence - altering, concealing, falsifying or destroying evidence with the intent to interfere with an investigation. The fact that they were destroyed after the case was underway doesn't look very good, altho perhaps he could plead there was no intent.

Sherborne seems to be arguing that there was nothing of relevance in the correspondence between Harry and Moehringer, but the judge was not happy that Harry’s team have only submitted a total of 5 documents, and also that Harry himself sifted the evidence and not his lawyers. He was pretty scathing

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MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 28/06/2024 20:10

Surely Moehringer would have copies of these drafts and communications, for legal reasons of his own?

Well yeah, for every sender there is a receiver and in Moehringer's place I'D keep the evidence. Five documents is ludicrous, though. Wasn't there a situation last year where he didn't actually realise he had to produce evidence, he thought rocking up at court and claiming his phone was hacked was enough to get judgment in his favour?

Sherborne seems to be arguing that there was nothing of relevance in the correspondence between Harry and Moehringer

Isn't that for the court and judge to decide?

JawJaw · 28/06/2024 20:17

@Vespanest statue?

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 28/06/2024 20:20

I'm having a good snigger at the solicitor telling the judge that Harry knows best about what constitutes disclosure. Why didn't he just say 'Do you know who my client IS?'

RosieMilkJug · 28/06/2024 20:20

There’s going to be a 6-part TV series about this, isn’t there? On Netflix?

smilesy · 28/06/2024 20:21

This next paragraph is interesting

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MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 28/06/2024 20:28

This is like watching a car crash in slow motion.

LeilaLettuce · 28/06/2024 20:32

smilesy · 28/06/2024 20:21

This next paragraph is interesting

He probably can’t remember. He seems to have large gaps in his memory . Or remembers things inaccurately.

CremeFresh · 28/06/2024 20:32

Isn't it just! Harry really is daft , thinking he can do everything his way, I reckon he had a LOT of help running his life before he decided to go it alone.

CremeFresh · 28/06/2024 20:33

smilesy · 28/06/2024 20:21

This next paragraph is interesting

Is the Royal household giving evidence? How would the judge know that?

CathyorClaire · 28/06/2024 20:35

This is like watching a car crash in slow motion.

Or a near catastrophic car chase 😎

CathyorClaire · 28/06/2024 20:38

smilesy · 28/06/2024 20:21

This next paragraph is interesting

Royal household, eh?

Maybe the palace isn't as supine as I think 🤓

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 28/06/2024 20:39

CathyorClaire · 28/06/2024 20:35

This is like watching a car crash in slow motion.

Or a near catastrophic car chase 😎

Naughty 😉

IcedPurple · 28/06/2024 20:40

CremeFresh · 28/06/2024 20:32

Isn't it just! Harry really is daft , thinking he can do everything his way, I reckon he had a LOT of help running his life before he decided to go it alone.

The 'grey men' he held in such contempt.

The likes of Sherborne would never have got near him if they were still in charge.

I really don't think he has anyone in his life now who is looking out for his best interests. And yes, I include his wife in that.

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 28/06/2024 20:41

CathyorClaire · 28/06/2024 20:38

Royal household, eh?

Maybe the palace isn't as supine as I think 🤓

Are you implying that the palace has given this info to the judge in something other than Harry's interests? 😉

DelectableMe · 28/06/2024 20:43

CathyorClaire · 28/06/2024 20:35

This is like watching a car crash in slow motion.

Or a near catastrophic car chase 😎

😂

DelectableMe · 28/06/2024 20:44

RosieMilkJug · 28/06/2024 20:20

There’s going to be a 6-part TV series about this, isn’t there? On Netflix?

One can only hope!

RoseAndRose · 28/06/2024 20:53

Veritysays897 · 27/06/2024 19:09

I don't know who the Sussex Squad are, and I certainly don't look at the sort of websites where people who are inclined to make remarks like that might comment, so I wouldn't know. I only look at Mumsnet so am commenting on what happens here.

As far as I can see, H & M are trying to live their lives as normally as possible, whilst attending various charitable events, and are keeping their DC out of the limelight which I think is very sensible indeed.

But people on here keep starting threads in order to churn up the same negative comments about them, repeating the same criticisms endlessly, and that all becomes part of the overall negative rhetoric against them. Not only is it playing to the the tabloids tune, as they benefit financially from controversy, it only takes one nut job to be unduly influenced by all the negative comment, and decide to do something really stupid and malicious. So no I don't blame H and M at all when they say they have security concerns. And fwiw I would have the same fears if I was C and W.

I think you need to look in to the Sussex Squad.

It is a very murky group of people, who really do spread bile on the internet (nastiest stance by far, and their disruption to the Trussell Trust and the jam company show their ambitions for RL effects). They are identified with H&M, not just because they back them, but because H&M appear with them, give them access etc. Yet do not denounce their horrible bullying and trolling.

It's quite an eye-opener

And for as long as H&M are silent about the bullying that is done by the supporters they chose to endorse, it's a little difficult to take them seriously on internet standards or on leadership.

RoseAndRose · 28/06/2024 20:56

smilesy · 28/06/2024 20:21

This next paragraph is interesting

If that it true, it is staggering