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I am reminded, reading all the replies, that poor security effectively killed Diana, or was a major contributing factor. Also keeping company with shady people possibly factored into things going awry let’s hope history doesn’t rhyme.

Thanks for the new thread .
Diana refused Met security as she was convinced they were spying on her.,

Poor decisions were a huge factor - essentially she didn't fasten her seatbelt! Although her security should have made sure the driver was sober.

100% this. I think the Crown portrays the Queen as being concerned about who she is spending time with ie Al Fayed but feeling unable to say anything as relations were so poor. It's a similar situation with H. If KC had a word with H about the shady company he was keeping, he would kick off.

The documentary is possibly about drug use, wild parties, dodgy contacts and business deals while Meghan was married to Trevor Engelson. Purely speculating but there may even be connections with Epstein seeing the set of circles Trevor Engelson was moving in. TE seems sleazy, he could have sex tapes of Meghan but I don't think they'd be included in the documentary. How much Trevor Engelson would agree to reveal in a documentary depends on the skeletons in his own closet and whether he was somehow pressured to reveal his shared past with Meghan Markle to protect his own image. I don't think Meghan herself has done anything in her past that's scandalous other than druggie parties and such like. I am convinced she has been ambitious and ruthless since she was very young. It will be interesting to watch if it becomes available in the UK.

Trevor and Meghan started dating in 2004 when Meghan was 23. The guests to Epstein’s islands came from across the world and from the highest ranks of society: celebrities and scientists and members of royal families, arriving in a private jet and then boarding a helicopter to the island. With Trevor an aspiring film producer and literary manager and Meghan an aspiring actress and social climber it's not unconceivable that they have visited as a couple. This is pure speculation tho. Despite Meghan's unhelpful behaviour, I guess she is squeaky clean in terms of her past, it's more that there may be some shady things that she has seen while being with Trevor. And there may be something with Doria too.

I’d personally would rather wait, the conspiracy theories surrounding Catherine are awful, I don’t feel comfortable doing the same for Meghan.

Going back to the previous thread and Trevor keeping quiet about their marriage it seems as if prior to H&M’s wedding he was going to produce a comedy about a divorcee marrying into the royal family but Meghan begged him not to and he shelved it.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/6286947/meghan-markle-persuades-ex-husband-to-hold-off-on-embarrassing-tv-show-about-her-royal-romance/

Just FYI Diana didn’t have her own security - she had refused it a few years earlier. So she was completely reliant on Mohammed Al Fayed’s security team while staying with Dodi. I can well imagine that this one of the factors influencing Harry’s actions currently.

I also think people expecting revelations from a tv documentary are bound to be disappointed!

There's one thing that puzzles me: why is Meghan referred to as a "leader"? What has she lead?
I keep seeing this claim and of course she shares panels with women who have achieved and are leaders. I just think it's a very strange claim for her, with no substance.

I agree that I don’t think Meghan - or Doria for that matter - have shady pasts. Like the moon landings you’d need too many people to keep quiet. Did Meghan hustle and tread on people to get on? Sure, but that’s not dodgy, just annoying. She also lies and exaggerates but, again, not offences to blow up the internet.

I think an expose would reveal how greedy and possibly ruthless H&M are.

I agree, @MaturingCheeseball . I think she's a hustler and a player, I think she exaggerates, manipulates and dissembles, but I don't think there's much more. According to Tom Bower, she had bags of cannabis as wedding favours at her first wedding, but that's hardly a major scandal.

It seems that even though her ex husband has never spoken out, Meghan herself has done so via Omid Scobie in Finding Freedom, the jist of it is that Trevor was jealous of her success in Suits , Meghan was upset that he went to the Oscars alone as he only got 1 ticket. She left him.

While Trevor never replied, his uncle reportedly said the following

‘Trevor is too good a person to have these kind of thoughts,’ he told the Mail this week. ‘That is not even close to who he is.’
Instead, Mr Felton suggests, the reasons for the divorce given in the book are an attempt to sanitise the reputation of someone ‘who did something wrong and needs to make themselves look good’.

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Interesting, @Thedom . It's a pity she didn't return the respect for privacy shown by Trevor.

Place marking, thanks for the new thread

I agree it's unlikely that there's big scandals to come out about Meghan's past - perhaps a few more details about how she treated people badly and used them on the way up, but nothing massively groundbreaking.

That said, I think there's undoubtedly plenty of mileage in digging into the finances and goings on of both Archewell and probably Invictus too which could be very damaging for them both.

I agree with you on this.

Ironically there’s another “please only post positively thread about Meghan.” On it celebrating her feminist achievements and saying that people relentlessly try to bring her down. These same posters turn a blind eye when it comes to Catherine. It’s so ironic and the double standards are shocking. Although 4 pages in 4 days says a lot.

Thanks for the new thread 😊

Yes, double standards indeed!

@MummyJ12 are any of the posters on that thread 'recognised' ?

I agree. If she was dodgy, it would definitely be out by now.

TBF you can understand why, as she'd been so misled by Martin Bashir and all of the 'proof' he showed her of betrayal.

Isn't it Trevor who was the more successful one?
After all, he got a ticket to the Oscar's and she didn't. 🤔

Had Diana kept her Met security, would she be alive today? Very possibly, and I can't blame Harry for wanting to keep his Met security.

With regard to dirt in Meghan's past, I find it hard to believe whatever there may be hasn't been dug up by now. Ditto the rest of her family.

Harry had security. He will always have security, paid for by the taxpayer. What he can't have is the top level security he feels he's entitled to whenever he's in the UK and whatever the purpose.