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OneHeartySnail · 10/05/2024 16:09

To continue the discussion.

I thought the comparison with the Duke snd Duchess of Windsor (last post on the previous thread) was interesting.

A visit to a dodgy regime, (Nazi Germany) because they would call Wallis HRH and make it a quasi-royal tour.

Of course, at that point Nazi Germany had a dodgy human rights record, but it was before the horrors of the Holocaust.

Let's face it, with the security and human rights issues there is no way the IG could happen in Nigeria. So that is sn excuse.

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Pollipops1 · 10/05/2024 18:34

Who ARE these M&H defenders who appear out of nowhere when they’re in the papers? More than once I’ve thought it’s like the couple pay people to post on here when they feel they’re going to need positive spin . It’s so, so weird.

I mean this is a very weird take.

RisingSunn · 10/05/2024 18:42

shenandoahvalley · 10/05/2024 18:23

God this thread is like my kids bickering with each other.

Who ARE these M&H defenders who appear out of nowhere when they’re in the papers? More than once I’ve thought it’s like the couple pay people to post on here when they feel they’re going to need positive spin Confused. It’s so, so weird.

The only thing that is weird here, is this post!

By your reasoning, if a poster doesn’t agree with you then they must be paid. 😳

The truth is far more boring than that.. I simply clicked on a thread that looked interesting and contributed.

Or are there different rules for this board?

smilesy · 10/05/2024 18:44

Pollipops1 · 10/05/2024 18:11

Yes why is that so funny? That is exactly what the royals do, work on the instructions of the government

faux naivety! Bingo! 😆

Ok. I genuinely want to know why this is “faux naivety”. In what way? What do you think the royals do when they visit another country?

iamwhatiam23 · 10/05/2024 18:45

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Overtheatlantic · 10/05/2024 18:48

I’m such a fan of Harry and Megan, and their obvious love for each other. People write about their mansion in Montecito, which they paid for. But it doesn’t compare to the castles, palaces, estates and the Cottage where Kate Middleton lives and raises her children. Harry and Megan are truthful and kind.

Pollipops1 · 10/05/2024 18:49

What do you think the royals do when they visit another country?

my lol was to the comment about Royals working only under the instruction of the government. I don’t think I made any reference to what Royals do or don’t when they visit other countries did I?

Overtheatlantic · 10/05/2024 18:49

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Horrible racist comment from someone enjoying life in a first world country.

AliceOlive · 10/05/2024 18:49

Overtheatlantic · 10/05/2024 18:48

I’m such a fan of Harry and Megan, and their obvious love for each other. People write about their mansion in Montecito, which they paid for. But it doesn’t compare to the castles, palaces, estates and the Cottage where Kate Middleton lives and raises her children. Harry and Megan are truthful and kind.

Your love for them is very sweet. I wish you a basket full of lemons and jam.

RisingSunn · 10/05/2024 18:50

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Racist and reported.

EatMoreFibre · 10/05/2024 18:56

shenandoahvalley · 10/05/2024 18:23

God this thread is like my kids bickering with each other.

Who ARE these M&H defenders who appear out of nowhere when they’re in the papers? More than once I’ve thought it’s like the couple pay people to post on here when they feel they’re going to need positive spin Confused. It’s so, so weird.

People with different opinions to yours posting comments on a public forum... whatever next 🙄

Seriously now if you suspect trolling, paid shills or sock puppetry please go ahead and report report report. MNHQ tend to be on the ball. I can see they have already deleted some of the racist comments upthread which were outrageous even by this board's standards.

Mymilkshakebringsallthepapstomycar · 10/05/2024 18:56

Blinkeredsoul34 · 10/05/2024 18:12

I don’t have time to read all of this thread or the previous one but some of the comments about Nigeria on here and on previous threads have been so derogatory and vile they are imho bordering on racist.

Nigeria is a relatively rich country, near enough a democracy, with a young diverse population and huge gas and oil wealth. It has a serious problem with corruption but nonetheless it’s a hugely important, populous, and economically powerful country in central west Africa, not the back of beyond!

If you had bothered to read the threads, you will see nobody has described Nigeria as "the back of beyond". Those are your words and yours alone.

If it wants to avoid criticism, maybe Nigeria should start acting like a democracy, treat all its people equally and afford them all the dignity to live unafraid. It is not racism when it is rightfully criticised for what happens within its borders. It's actually racist to give the Nigerian regimes some sort of free pass for their pervasive human rights abuses because of the colour of the skin of the populace.

An estimated 62,000 Christians have been murdered since 2000, described by the International Committee for Nigeria as genocide and the "Silent Slaughter". At least 140 Nigerian Christians were slaughtered in a mass killing in December 2023.

Since 2019, there have been 735 mass abductions in Nigeria. There have been 68 mass kidnappings in 2024 alone. At least 1,400 students have been kidnapped from Nigerian schools since 2014. According to the BBC, 280 students were kidnapped in March of this year.

In 2022, Unicef were reporting that Female Genital Mutilation of girls is on the rise. "Female genital mutilation (FGM) remains widespread in Nigeria. With an estimated 19.9 million survivors, Nigeria accounts for the third highest number of women and girls who have undergone FGM worldwide."

The persecution and prosecution and punishment of homosexuals was crystalised by Nigeria in the Same Sex (Prohibition) Act of 2013. Described by Amnesty International as, ".... brutal homophobic persecution [hitting] a new, unthinkable low." The maximum punishment in the states that have adopted Shari'a law is death by stoning.

Nigeria's economy is not doing so well at the moment, both due to the worldwide economic crisis and domestic policies. Perhaps concentrating on feeding their populace who are suffering due to steep inflation, rather than spending money on something like Invictus would be a wiser move for Nigeria. Not because I hate Harry, but because these types of events (Olympics etc) tend to leave countries with a bit of short term kudos and a load of long term debt and white elephant stadia.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-68402662

Protesters in Lagos on 27 February 2024

Why Nigeria's economy is in such a mess

Nigeria is experiencing its worst economic crisis in a generation, leading to nationwide protests.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-68402662

Pollipops1 · 10/05/2024 18:58

People with different opinions to yours posting comments on a public forum... whatever next

Its so, so weird apparently 😀

smilesy · 10/05/2024 18:58

Pollipops1 · 10/05/2024 18:49

What do you think the royals do when they visit another country?

my lol was to the comment about Royals working only under the instruction of the government. I don’t think I made any reference to what Royals do or don’t when they visit other countries did I?

Ah I see. But you took that part of @IcedPurple’s post out of context. She was replying to the point you made about “quasi royal’s cosying up to dodgy regimes”. She was pointing out that the royals visit these countries at the behest of the government. So no faux naivety 😊

IsoldeWagner · 10/05/2024 18:59

My god, @Mymilkshakebringsallthepapstomycar that's horrifying. Absolutely shocking.
Thank you, I'd no idea.

PartyFearsTwo · 10/05/2024 18:59

shenandoahvalley · 10/05/2024 18:23

God this thread is like my kids bickering with each other.

Who ARE these M&H defenders who appear out of nowhere when they’re in the papers? More than once I’ve thought it’s like the couple pay people to post on here when they feel they’re going to need positive spin Confused. It’s so, so weird.

Bit of an odd comment. Is only one point of view allowed?

LaMarschallin · 10/05/2024 19:00

Overtheatlantic · 10/05/2024 18:48

I’m such a fan of Harry and Megan, and their obvious love for each other. People write about their mansion in Montecito, which they paid for. But it doesn’t compare to the castles, palaces, estates and the Cottage where Kate Middleton lives and raises her children. Harry and Megan are truthful and kind.

It's true, poor H&M, their place really doesn't compare with what W&K have.
I presume they're truthful and kind too; they certainly obviously love each other.
At the moment all they're lacking is Kate's health, sadly.
I notice that H&M were mentioned looking "happy and healthy" earlier in the thread. Little bit tactless but easy to do in full, adoring flow I suppose. It's unlikely that they'd being doing this visit if they weren’t both ok.

OneHeartySnail · 10/05/2024 19:00

Overtheatlantic · 10/05/2024 17:36

They both looked so happy and healthy. It was lovely to see how much they were welcomed and how much the students loved meeting them. Her dress was perfect for the occasion, but then she always gets it right.

she always gets it right

Now on what thread did I read those exact words? One of the 'Meghan out and about' ones I think.

But by a poster with a different name

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Overtheatlantic · 10/05/2024 19:03

AliceOlive · 10/05/2024 18:49

Your love for them is very sweet. I wish you a basket full of lemons and jam.

I look forward to the lemons and jam! Would you like to bit of salt?

shenandoahvalley · 10/05/2024 19:05

shenandoahvalley · 10/05/2024 18:23

God this thread is like my kids bickering with each other.

Who ARE these M&H defenders who appear out of nowhere when they’re in the papers? More than once I’ve thought it’s like the couple pay people to post on here when they feel they’re going to need positive spin Confused. It’s so, so weird.

Quoting myself but in reply to the various posters saying words to the effect of “different spots are allowed”.

That is so unrelated to and different from what I said, that it sort of proves my point. For so many different (are they? maybe they’re one and the same) posters to misread/make the very same mistake in comprehension stretches credulity. Is there a script? Notes given? Once upon a time the ripostes used to be more aggressive and use the race card. Nowadays they’re more gentle, faux naif, seemingly confused. At all times, it’s like there actually is a script being followed.

Pollipops1 · 10/05/2024 19:05

@smilesy I asked if getting cosy with dodgy regimes was the Quasi Royal element. Iced replied Working royals are public servants and act on the instructions of the government. which is what I lol’d at. I don’t see what I took out of context?

Mylovelygreendress · 10/05/2024 19:09

OneHeartySnail · 10/05/2024 19:00

she always gets it right

Now on what thread did I read those exact words? One of the 'Meghan out and about' ones I think.

But by a poster with a different name

I thought the same thing . I can even think of the name but won’t say !
I have said before that Meghan does casual ( jeans etc) well but more formal stuff is a real hit or miss . Today was a miss . Why can’t she wear appropriate clothes that fit ??

Pollipops1 · 10/05/2024 19:10

That is so unrelated to and different from what I said, that it sort of proves my point. For so many different (are they? maybe they’re one and the same) posters to misread/make the very same mistake in comprehension stretches credulity. Is there a script? Notes given? Once upon a time the ripostes used to be more aggressive and use the race card. Nowadays they’re more gentle, faux naif, seemingly confused. At all times, it’s like there actually is a script being followed.

I think you can level this at the posters accusing others of the above.

I mean I thought your post accusing posters of being paid was utterly bizarre and I wasn’t the only one. Have you ever considered it possible that individuals could come to that conclusion independently?

ShamedBySiri · 10/05/2024 19:11

Ooh it's been a busy day and I'll never catch up. But can I just say @arcanewirless postcard from Nigeria was a fine finish to the last thread.
And thanks for the new one.

IsoldeWagner · 10/05/2024 19:12

ShamedBySiri · 10/05/2024 19:11

Ooh it's been a busy day and I'll never catch up. But can I just say @arcanewirless postcard from Nigeria was a fine finish to the last thread.
And thanks for the new one.

Oh my god!
Meghan's dress 😲

IsoldeWagner · 10/05/2024 19:13

And the school boy's face looking at her! 😂

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